Mailman 3 September 2020 - Mailman-Users

Archive Issue
by Dennis Putnam 18 Sep '20

18 Sep '20

For some reason, messages are not being archived. I see no error in the logs and check_perms says no problems found. Any suggestions on how to get archive working? Thanks.

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Manual Update on Centos 7
by Dennis Putnam 17 Sep '20

17 Sep '20

Since Centos 7 is way behind on mailman rpm (2.1.15 is the only available rpm) and mailman is currently at 2.1.34 I need to do a manual update. While I know how to install software, I am concerned that just doing a manual install from the tarball will mess up current settings, lists and members. Does anyone have experience doing this that can advise about pitfalls or has a cookbook document to do a safe update? TIA.

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mailman 2 and postfix problem
by Steven Jones 15 Sep '20

15 Sep '20

Hi, I am trying to setup a mailman 2 instance on RHEL8.2 and postfix seems to be rejecting the input, not sure if it is a Postfix issue or a Mailman issue. The list aaa-seteven is in the aliases file in /etc/mailman telnet vuwunicomailmd1.ods.vuw.ac.nz 25 Trying 130.195.14.234... Connected to vuwunicomailmd1.ods.vuw.ac.nz. Escape character is '^]'. 220 lists.victoria.ac.nz ESMTP Postfix ehlo vuwunicossj0002.ods.vuw.ac.nz 250-lists.victoria.ac.nz 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 30720000 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-STARTTLS 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250-DSN 250 SMTPUTF8 mail from:steven@xxxx.ac.nz 250 2.1.0 Ok rcpt to: aaa-steven(a)lists.victoria.ac.nz 550 5.1.1 <aaa-steven(a)lists.victoria.ac.nz>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. any idea please? regards Steven regards Steven

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Trying to setup mailman2.1 and following the docs on RHEL8.2
by Steven Jones 12 Sep '20

12 Sep '20

I get this failure message, === [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# pwd /usr/lib/systemd/system [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# for X in mailman-*.timer ; do systemctl enable $X && systemctl start $X ; done Invalid unit name "mailman-*.timer" was escaped as "mailman-\x2a.timer" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?) Failed to enable unit: Unit file mailman-\x2a.timer does not exist. [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# === help please. regards Steven

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Apache/mailman2 on RHEL8.2
by Steven Jones 12 Sep '20

12 Sep '20

Trying to do a setup, I get the default page OK but when I follow the link, "List administrators, you can visit the list admin overview page to find the management interface for your list." I get, Not Found The requested URL /mailman/admin was not found on this server. regards Steven

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options page for this list?
by Russell Clemings 11 Sep '20

11 Sep '20

A (probably stupid) question: How does one get to the list options page for this (Mailman2) list? The link in the digest footer ( https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/) goes to the Mailman3 list options. I've been unable to find the options page for this list via other means. -- =============================================== Russell Clemings <russell(a)clemings.com> ===============================================

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Filer From: no-reply
by Dennis Putnam 11 Sep '20

11 Sep '20

I am getting email from entities with From: no-reply headers. Is there a way to filter those and just dump them in the bit bucket rather than go through bounce processing? TIA.

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Re: Manual Update on Centos 7
by Dennis Putnam 11 Sep '20

11 Sep '20

Hi Tom, I ran the following sequence of commands as best I could interpret them for CentOS: ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman --with-username=mailman --with-groupname=mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman make service mailman stop make install service mailman start /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f After all that with no errors, when I try to start mailman I get this: mailman.service - GNU Mailing List Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/mailman.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-09-11 08:39:55 MDT; 6s ago Process: 21345 ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Process: 21342 ExecStartPre=/bin/chmod 660 /var/log/mailman/error (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21339 ExecStartPre=/bin/chown mailman:mailman /var/log/mailman/error (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21336 ExecStartPre=/bin/touch /var/log/mailman/error (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21333 ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -m644 -o root -g root /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab.in /etc/cron.d/mailman (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21329 ExecStartPre=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailman-update-cfg (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/codecs.py", line 881, in open Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/mailman/logs/error' Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: Original log message: Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/mailman/logs/error' Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: Sep 11 08:39:55 2020 (21345) Site list is missing: mailman Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: mailman.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: Failed to start GNU Mailing List Manager. Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: Unit mailman.service entered failed state. Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: mailman.service failed. If I look at that file, it is missing. The directory seems correct: drwxrwsr-x. 2 mailman mailman 19 Sep 11 08:39 logs I should note that the first time I built/installed it, I had the wrong prefix directory (/var/lib/mailman) taken from the Ubuntu instructions. I also was not sure what to use for the other parameters but on CentOS everything is owned by user mailman:mailman. The 2.15 installation had that directory (/var/lib/mailman) but it was used by mailman for something else. So I don't know if by doing that, it messed things up beyond repair. If so I can reclone my production machine to this test machine and try again. Please advise. Thanks. On 8/29/2020 5:18 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: > I found the info here to be of good use on ubuntu. Hopefully centos is similar enough that it’s useful to you. > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/5%20Downloading%20and%20installing%20Mailman > > — > Tom Coradeschi > tjcora(a)icloud.com > > >> On 29 Aug 2020, at 2:11 PM, Dennis Putnam <dap1(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> Since Centos 7 is way behind on mailman rpm (2.1.15 is the only >> available rpm) and mailman is currently at 2.1.34 I need to do a manual >> update. While I know how to install software, I am concerned that just >> doing a manual install from the tarball will mess up current settings, >> lists and members. Does anyone have experience doing this that can >> advise about pitfalls or has a cookbook document to do a safe update? TIA. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ >> Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >> Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >> Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/

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Affinity and Empathy is now available
by Brian Carpenter 11 Sep '20

11 Sep '20

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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