Mailman 3 September 2020 - Mailman-Users

delete a message out of a pending digest?
by Bryan Teague Sept. 18, 2020

Sept. 18, 2020

Hello, I was contacted by the member of one of my mailing lists asking if it was possible to delete a message before it was sent out in a digest. I searched, but did not find anything to indicate this was possible. Is it possible? and if so, where can I find the documentation on this procedure? Thanks, Bryan Bryan Teague Senior Web Administrator, Library and Web Services Information Technology Services Maher Hall 196 5998 Alcalá Park San Diego, CA 92110-2492 Work: 619.260.7842 Cell: 619.321.7288 bryant(a)sandiego.edu <mailto:bryant@sandiego.edu>

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Archive Issue
by Dennis Putnam Sept. 18, 2020

Sept. 18, 2020

For some reason, messages are not being archived. I see no error in the logs and check_perms says no problems found. Any suggestions on how to get archive working? Thanks.

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Manual Update on Centos 7
by Dennis Putnam Sept. 17, 2020

Sept. 17, 2020

Since Centos 7 is way behind on mailman rpm (2.1.15 is the only available rpm) and mailman is currently at 2.1.34 I need to do a manual update. While I know how to install software, I am concerned that just doing a manual install from the tarball will mess up current settings, lists and members. Does anyone have experience doing this that can advise about pitfalls or has a cookbook document to do a safe update? TIA.

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mailman 2 and postfix problem
by Steven Jones Sept. 15, 2020

Sept. 15, 2020

Hi, I am trying to setup a mailman 2 instance on RHEL8.2 and postfix seems to be rejecting the input, not sure if it is a Postfix issue or a Mailman issue. The list aaa-seteven is in the aliases file in /etc/mailman telnet vuwunicomailmd1.ods.vuw.ac.nz 25 Trying 130.195.14.234... Connected to vuwunicomailmd1.ods.vuw.ac.nz. Escape character is '^]'. 220 lists.victoria.ac.nz ESMTP Postfix ehlo vuwunicossj0002.ods.vuw.ac.nz 250-lists.victoria.ac.nz 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 30720000 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-STARTTLS 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250-DSN 250 SMTPUTF8 mail from:steven@xxxx.ac.nz 250 2.1.0 Ok rcpt to: aaa-steven(a)lists.victoria.ac.nz 550 5.1.1 <aaa-steven(a)lists.victoria.ac.nz>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. any idea please? regards Steven regards Steven

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Trying to setup mailman2.1 and following the docs on RHEL8.2
by Steven Jones Sept. 12, 2020

Sept. 12, 2020

I get this failure message, === [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# pwd /usr/lib/systemd/system [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# for X in mailman-*.timer ; do systemctl enable $X && systemctl start $X ; done Invalid unit name "mailman-*.timer" was escaped as "mailman-\x2a.timer" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?) Failed to enable unit: Unit file mailman-\x2a.timer does not exist. [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# === help please. regards Steven

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Apache/mailman2 on RHEL8.2
by Steven Jones Sept. 12, 2020

Sept. 12, 2020

Trying to do a setup, I get the default page OK but when I follow the link, "List administrators, you can visit the list admin overview page to find the management interface for your list." I get, Not Found The requested URL /mailman/admin was not found on this server. regards Steven

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options page for this list?
by Russell Clemings Sept. 11, 2020

Sept. 11, 2020

A (probably stupid) question: How does one get to the list options page for this (Mailman2) list? The link in the digest footer ( https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/) goes to the Mailman3 list options. I've been unable to find the options page for this list via other means. -- =============================================== Russell Clemings <russell(a)clemings.com> ===============================================

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Filer From: no-reply
by Dennis Putnam Sept. 11, 2020

Sept. 11, 2020

I am getting email from entities with From: no-reply headers. Is there a way to filter those and just dump them in the bit bucket rather than go through bounce processing? TIA.

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Re: Manual Update on Centos 7
by Dennis Putnam Sept. 11, 2020

Sept. 11, 2020

Hi Tom, I ran the following sequence of commands as best I could interpret them for CentOS: ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman --with-username=mailman --with-groupname=mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman make service mailman stop make install service mailman start /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f After all that with no errors, when I try to start mailman I get this: mailman.service - GNU Mailing List Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/mailman.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-09-11 08:39:55 MDT; 6s ago Process: 21345 ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Process: 21342 ExecStartPre=/bin/chmod 660 /var/log/mailman/error (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21339 ExecStartPre=/bin/chown mailman:mailman /var/log/mailman/error (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21336 ExecStartPre=/bin/touch /var/log/mailman/error (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21333 ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -m644 -o root -g root /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab.in /etc/cron.d/mailman (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 21329 ExecStartPre=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailman-update-cfg (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/codecs.py", line 881, in open Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/mailman/logs/error' Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: Original log message: Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/mailman/logs/error' Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net mailmanctl[21345]: Sep 11 08:39:55 2020 (21345) Site list is missing: mailman Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: mailman.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: Failed to start GNU Mailing List Manager. Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: Unit mailman.service entered failed state. Sep 11 08:39:55 harmonia.csd.net systemd[1]: mailman.service failed. If I look at that file, it is missing. The directory seems correct: drwxrwsr-x. 2 mailman mailman 19 Sep 11 08:39 logs I should note that the first time I built/installed it, I had the wrong prefix directory (/var/lib/mailman) taken from the Ubuntu instructions. I also was not sure what to use for the other parameters but on CentOS everything is owned by user mailman:mailman. The 2.15 installation had that directory (/var/lib/mailman) but it was used by mailman for something else. So I don't know if by doing that, it messed things up beyond repair. If so I can reclone my production machine to this test machine and try again. Please advise. Thanks. On 8/29/2020 5:18 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: > I found the info here to be of good use on ubuntu. Hopefully centos is similar enough that it’s useful to you. > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/5%20Downloading%20and%20installing%20Mailman > > — > Tom Coradeschi > tjcora(a)icloud.com > > >> On 29 Aug 2020, at 2:11 PM, Dennis Putnam <dap1(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> Since Centos 7 is way behind on mailman rpm (2.1.15 is the only >> available rpm) and mailman is currently at 2.1.34 I need to do a manual >> update. While I know how to install software, I am concerned that just >> doing a manual install from the tarball will mess up current settings, >> lists and members. Does anyone have experience doing this that can >> advise about pitfalls or has a cookbook document to do a safe update? TIA. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users(a)python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave(a)python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ >> Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >> Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >> Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/

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Affinity and Empathy is now available
by Brian Carpenter Sept. 11, 2020

Sept. 11, 2020

Dear Mailman 2 Users, We have launched Affinity and Empathy and they now are part of our shared and cloud Mailman 3 hosting services. Affinity replaces Postorius and Empathy replaces Hyperkitty. We can easily migrate current mailman 2 lists to this new Mailman 3 environment. You can read more at https://mailmanhost.com Please email me off-list if you have any questions. Brian Carpenter Harmony Lists

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