Mailman 3 November 2023 - Mailman-Users

Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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mailman3-web is broken after deleting site "example.com"
by Nils 09 Nov '23

09 Nov '23

Because I'm having trouble with setting up mailman2, I'm currently testing mailman3. After configuring the real domain names and deleting the site "example.com", nothing is working in the web frontend any more. Whatever I try to access I just get the same server error: "An error occurred while processing your request." Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line 34, in inner response = get_response(request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 115, in _get_response response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 113, in _get_response response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/index.py", line 99, in index return render(request, "hyperkitty/index.html", context) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/shortcuts.py", line 36, in render content = loader.render_to_string(template_name, context, request, using=using) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/loader.py", line 62, in render_to_string return template.render(context, request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/backends/django.py", line 61, in render return self.template.render(context) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/base.py", line 169, in render with context.bind_template(self): File "/usr/lib/python3.8/contextlib.py", line 113, in __enter__ return next(self.gen) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/context.py", line 246, in bind_template updates.update(processor(self.request)) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_mailman3/context_processors.py", line 32, in common context["site_name"] = get_current_site(request).name File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/contrib/sites/shortcuts.py", line 13, in get_current_site return Site.objects.get_current(request) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", line 58, in get_current return self._get_site_by_id(site_id) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", line 30, in _get_site_by_id site = self.get(pk=site_id) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/manager.py", line 82, in manager_method return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/query.py", line 406, in get raise self.model.DoesNotExist( django.contrib.sites.models.Site.DoesNotExist: Site matching query does not exist. I haven't done much configuration yet. It wouldn't be a problem to start new and lose all configuration data. What is the easiest way to reset configuration data? I am considering using mysql db for mailman-web configuration. Would changing to a new database reset everything? Kind regards, Nils

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Problems with mailman installation
by Nils 09 Nov '23

09 Nov '23

I can't get mailman version (1:2.1.26-1ubuntu0.6) to run on an ubuntu 18.04 installation with apache2 running in chroot. I've done the same thing before, a long time ago and it worked perfectly back then. chroot directory is /home/www (I admit that it's strange to put it there, but the provided setup only has huge /home partition and small /) vhost configuration: <VirtualHost *:443> ServerName lists.DOMAIN.TLD ServerAdmin webadmin(a)DOMAIN.TLD <ifmodule mpm_itk_module> AssignUserID www-data www-data </ifmodule> DocumentRoot /home/lists/httpdocs/site/ <Directory /home/lists/httpdocs/site/> AllowOverride None Require all granted </Directory> <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all granted </Directory> <Directory "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/"> AllowOverride all Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch Require all granted </Directory> # ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/ ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/ RedirectMatch ^/[/]*$ http://lists.DOMAIN.TLD/listinfo/ ErrorLog /home/www/home/lists/logs/error.log CustomLog /home/www/home/lists/logs/access.log combined Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf SSLCertificateFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/lists.DOMAIN.TLD/fullchain.pem SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/lists.DOMAIN.TLD/privkey.pem Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf </VirtualHost> Here is the significant part of the fstab file that provides the necessary directories in the chroot environment: /etc/mailman /home/www/etc/mailman none defaults,bind,ro /usr/lib/mailman /home/www/usr/lib/mailman none defaults,bind,ro /usr/share/mailman /home/www/usr/share/mailman none defaults,bind,ro /usr/share/images/mailman /home/www/usr/share/images/mailman none defaults,bind,ro /var/lib/mailman /home/www/var/lib/mailman none defaults,bind /var/log/mailman /home/www/var/log/mailman none defaults,bind /var/lock/mailman /home/www/var/lock/mailman none defaults,bind Result is: Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: No such file or directory I have checked that all script files are accessible. There is no related entry in either the syslog, the apache log files or the mailman log files. I am not able to find more details about this error. Any suggestions are welcome. Please ask for more detailed information. Kind regards, Nils

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Making Sure a Weekly Digest is Just Weekly
by Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS 06 Nov '23

06 Nov '23

Wow -- two posts in one day! I have a "weekly digest". It's new, but seems to be publishing at least twice per week (Wednesdays and Fridays). I have: a) Already checked that it is set to "weekly" b) Already double-checked that "digest_size_threshold" is set to 0. c) I have just changed "digest_send_periodic" from "Yes" to "No". With the change in (C) above, have I fixed the problem? Thanks, Michael -- *Michael Reeder, LCPC * *Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location* *410-871-TALK / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com*

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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 237, Issue 2
by Jeremy 05 Nov '23

05 Nov '23

Dig around in their control panel. There should be cron jobs and the ability to enable ssh per "SFTP User". Lots of ads and upsells are in their panel now which hadn't been there before so be careful what you click. >Ugh. Dream Host does not give me cron job / command line access. I'll >try begging them to do this, but more likely I'll have to manually >release the Digest each week. >

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Good Commercial Mailman Hosts?
by Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS 04 Nov '23

04 Nov '23

Hello, I'm hoping you all could point me towards some good commercial providers that offer Mailman lists to customers? Bonus points if they are also web hosting accounts, and bonus points for lower cost as this is a volunteer effort I'm paying for out-of-pocket for the community. I still love Dream Host and the particular ONE tech there who knows how to work their ONE list discussion server is awesome and responsive, but I'm getting tired of the lack of equipment redundancy/backup, their west coast server farm lost power for most of yesterday, and they are now up to $10.99/mo. Maybe $10.99/mo. is just the going rate now? When I worked for Digex web hosting 22 years ago we were connected to BOTH the Baltimore and Washington, DC power grids, and had a contract with a diesel oil company to keep our diesel generators running 24/7 in the event that both power grids went down. Any ideas appreciated. Thanks, Michael -- *Michael Reeder, LCPC * *Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location* *410-871-TALK / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com* *http://www.hygeiacounseling.com - main website. *

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