Mailman 3 October 1999 - Mailman-Users

Is this feature in mailman?
by George Chavdarov 22 Oct '99

22 Oct '99

Hi all! I set up test list but i need to know something Can i make list where only owner or persons approved by owner can post messages. all other are prohibited. Looking in mailman i found that can make all other mail go to approval to owner but i dont need it like this Best regards, George Chavdarov System administrator - www.dir.bg

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Mailman on Mac OS X (BSD-ish)
by Thomas Esamie 22 Oct '99

22 Oct '99

Hello, I have taken it upon myself to attempt installing mailman on Macintosh OS X Server. I got Python (1.5.2) and installed that without any apparent problems and then followed the steps to install mailman (1.0). I then tried to run ./configure and it failed because it could not find the "mailman" user account. It (the account) _is_ there, I can see it and I created it. (I even deleted and recreated it, you never know) However the configure script conks out on me every time. I wonder whether any of you have had similar/same problems and could furnish me with possible solutions. I would certainly appreciate it. Perhaps even a checklist of things I might not be doing right (I'm by no means a UNIX guru and it's by no means out of the question that I've goofed) if there exists such a thing would be handy. Greetings, Thomas PS. Or of course mailman doesn't run on OSX at all... :-(

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External Archiver question ..again...
by Hostmaster 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

OK here is the story... I have a mailing list that is primarily graphics based meaning emails with gif's & jpg's in them... Now with pipermail no one can view the attachments/graphics. Now I heard there is a patch for this? The option of using an external archive, like "MHonArc" which can do inline images or decode the uuencode which ever is more correct. I finally got a hold of CVS installed it and got to the CVS server and got the latest source(I guess as of today) now, do I have to re-install the whole thing again? If so what will happen to my existing mailing lists and archives? If I do does it automatically make all existing archives readable or just the new ones...? OR can I just replace the Defaults.py file and set EXTERNAL_PUBLIC_ARCHIVER =0 to "1" and keep my version I have now that I got on the 19th of Oct ? And if so, how does it know where the external archive is and what command line to use? I am sorry for bothering anyone regarding this but I find it difficult to find info on this and how to implement it...?? Any help from someone who has done it would be greatly appreciated!!! THANKS! Rob Morin Montreal, Canada

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email interface
by Mats Wichmann 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

Hello, folks. I've fiddled around with mailman some in the past but I'm basically a newbie. I've just had some lists I run converted over by my ISP, who made the switch from majordomo as part of a general upgrade - there wasn't a choice involved here. I've got some subscribers who are rabidly anti-web (which, if anyone saw the quality of phone lines in this rural area, they might understand better), so I'm interested in more details of the email interface rather than the web interface which I'm sure will be fine for the majority. The two questions which I haven't found anything on: can you access the archives to see which are available and request one to be delivered entirely by email without involving a web browser (obviously the "list by thread" stuff is useless in an email interface so I'm only curious about "index" and "get" sorts of functions). and... can arbitrary files be placed in the archive location for fetching either by email request or by web interface? (the latter has sometimes proven useful when a group is collaboratively developing a document and drafts of said document are added to the "archive directory"; or where there's a position paper or group charter; or a list of resources...anyway, said file can then be fetched via email command.) These two have been possible with majordomo.... thanks, Mats Wichmann

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Next question *-)
by Ron Jarrell 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

At 02:16 PM 10/21/99 +0100, Judge, Jack wrote: >Many thanks for that, forgive me if these questions seem basic but I couldn't find answers in any FAQ or online resource. > >Next question, how do I go about setting up "umbrella lists" ? > >Assume I can set up a list, parent1, with two other lists, child1 and child2 as members. Now I have a regular subscriber who is a member of child1 and child2. How can I stop him receiving duplicates of all messages sent to parent1 ? > You don't. It's not so much an umbrella as a cascading list. Internally mailman doesn't know by the time it gets to the kids where it came from, and treats it as seperate notes.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] fully qualified domain name
by Paolo 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

Received from Christopher Lindsey, On Thu Oct 21 at 1:59: .> .Mail sent to user1 from another user on the same host are promptly received .> .whether using the address user1 or user1(a)dom.org or user1(a)hname.dom.org .> . .> What i would like to figure out is how did the host name 'hname' enter the address. .> I have always used 'user1(a)dom.org' in configuration files (alias, ect.); . .I don't think that this is a problem with Mailman. The best way .to test this is by sending mail to the fully-qualified address .and seeing if it changes in the To: header. If it stays the way .that you typed it, then you're just dealing with a simple case of .RFC 822 compliance. The address stays as the sender typed it. What does RFC 822 compliance imply? .If you're using a different MTA, tough noogies. I haven't played .with them enough to know how to deal with this. :) Smail is the MTA on the site Mailman should be running. Sysdamin told me that relaying restrictions have been very strictly set after a dangerous attack by unknown intruders. Anybody found himself in a simillar situation? thanks Paolo Pumilia email: pumilia(a)est.it ---- cstc -

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Next question *-)
by Judge, Jack 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

Many thanks for that, forgive me if these questions seem basic but I couldn't find answers in any FAQ or online resource. Next question, how do I go about setting up "umbrella lists" ? Assume I can set up a list, parent1, with two other lists, child1 and child2 as members. Now I have a regular subscriber who is a member of child1 and child2. How can I stop him receiving duplicates of all messages sent to parent1 ? Thanks In Advance, JJ -----Original Message----- From: Ron Jarrell [mailto:jarrell@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 9:45 AM To: Judge, Jack; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] beginners questions At 11:54 AM 10/20/99 +0100, Judge, Jack wrote: Hi, I've just started playing with MM and I've a couple of questions. First of all, where is the URL for the overall server administrator ? Is none. Only two things a server admin really does is create lists, and delete them. Which use use the command line for for now. I can find the pages for the individual list admins easily enough, but not one for the overall server administrator. As the server admin, how do I administer a list (or even remove one) if the list owner isn't available ? Removal is command line. To administer a list, just go to that lists page, and use your site password (which you set with mmsitepass) instead of any other password, and you'll "trump" their password and get your way. Works on user pages too. Is editing the mm_cfg.py file the only way of setting server policies ? And I suppose any policy changes I make wouldn't be retroactive and affect any previously created lists ? Those aren't policies so much as defaults; new lists are created that way for the most part; old lists aren't affected, because they're settings are done at their individual setting pages..

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Re: [Mailman-Users] beginners questions
by Ron Jarrell 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

At 11:54 AM 10/20/99 +0100, Judge, Jack wrote: >Hi, > >I've just started playing with MM and I've a couple of questions. > >First of all, where is the URL for the overall server administrator ? Is none. Only two things a server admin really does is create lists, and delete them. Which use use the command line for for now. >I can find the pages for the individual list admins easily enough, but not one for the overall server administrator. As the server admin, how do I administer a list (or even remove one) if the list owner isn't available ? Removal is command line. To administer a list, just go to that lists page, and use your site password (which you set with mmsitepass) instead of any other password, and you'll "trump" their password and get your way. Works on user pages too. >Is editing the mm_cfg.py file the only way of setting server policies ? >And I suppose any policy changes I make wouldn't be retroactive and affect any previously created lists ? Those aren't policies so much as defaults; new lists are created that way for the most part; old lists aren't affected, because they're settings are done at their individual setting pages..

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Mailman cannot respond to the list owner
by Paolo M. Pumilia 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

After my first test on a local network, I tried to install Mailman on a mail server in the internet. Apache and Smail are running on that site, that will be called 'dom.org' The host name is 'hname' so that the complete addresses for users on that site is of the form: user(a)hname.dom.org A new list has just been created by user1 then a notification is to be expected from the mailman. Yet notification never gets user1, due to a not valid domain in the address. Gere is part from smtp-failures: > Oct 20 16:12:01 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: Mailman.pythonlib.smtplib.SMTPSenderRefused +/ (550, "'<mailman-owner(a)hname.dom.org>size=1470' sender address target 'hname.dom.org' +is not a valid e-mail domain.", 'mailman-owner(a)hname.dom.org') (deferred) > Oct 20 16:12:01 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: MTA 'localhost' relaying restrictions probably +too strict -- even for sender 'mailman-owner(a)hname.dom.org' > Oct 20 16:42:01 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: To user1(a)dom.org: I am not thw owner of that machine, so i cannot infer from the warning "relaying restrictions probably too strict" what must be adjusted in site configuration. Mail sent to user1 from another user on the same host are promptly received whether using the address user1 or user1(a)dom.org or user1(a)hname.dom.org Any suggestions? thank you Paolo Pumilia email: pumilia(a)est.it ---- cstc -

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unable to edit my archive page
by Jerry Adlersfluegel 21 Oct '99

21 Oct '99

I am trying to edit my Archives Index Page with the web interface, and my changes aren't showing up. The archive is private, and works just fine. I just finished configuring ht://dig to index the private archive and now I want to put the search doodads on the archive page. Changes I make on the web form show up in ~/lists/listname/archives.html but never make it to ~/archives/private/listname/index.html, even after someone sends mail to the list. The index.html file is overwritten everytime a message is posted, which blows away anything I tried to add there. Just to see if the web-based editor worked, I was able to successfully edit the General list information page. I would appreciate any help in modifying this file. (Mailman 1.0 on a RedHat 6.0 system.) Thanks! -- Jerry Adlersfluegel

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