Mailman 3 October 1999 - Mailman-Users

htdig
by Bek Oberin 14 Oct '99

14 Oct '99

How can I set up a search engine like htdig that uses the regular mailman (email+password) security? If I point it at http://hostname/pipermail/listname/ it's going to only index the enter-your-information pages and not the content, correct? How can I get around this? And how can I -then- require actual users to enter their email+password to access the info? bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : gossamer(a)tertius.net.au http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : It may be irrational of me, but human beings are quite my : favorite species. -- The Doctor, 'Doctor Who'

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A Short Introduction of myself and 1 question
by Felipe Tonioli 13 Oct '99

13 Oct '99

Hi all, I'm a Brazilian, and I'm NOT a programmer, I'm a network administrator, but I need a tool to run a maillist, and publish it in html format, easy no ? yeah, but the problem is that I need a tool that run under windows NT plataform, it's not easy find it, so, I'm think about compile any maillist server for linux to run under NT, not easy too. Searching for this, I found Python, and mailman, the qustion is, there is anyone that run this under windows ? what I need to compile this to run under NT ? Now I'm downloading Win32 Module, I think that will be necessary, anyone like to help me ? I known that you are here not to teach, but I need help :) I have no Idea to became a programmer :) best regards Felipe Tonioli

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #353 - 10 msgs
by Ron Jarrell 13 Oct '99

13 Oct '99

At 06:23 PM 10/10/99 -0700, Michael Ghens wrote: >Tried a news gateway test. This is the error: > >Traceback (innermost last): > File "/home/other/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 119, in ? > main() > File "/home/other/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 79, in main > r,c,first,last,n = conn.group(mlist.linked_newsgroup) > File "/usr/lib/python1.5/nntplib.py", line 208, in group > resp = self.shortcmd('GROUP ' + name) > File "/usr/lib/python1.5/nntplib.py", line 158, in shortcmd > return self.getresp() > File "/usr/lib/python1.5/nntplib.py", line 134, in getresp > raise error_perm, resp >nntplib.error_perm: 500 "GROUP" not implemented; try "help". > > >Any sugguestions? Are you running INN on the news server? Is the mailman machine defined as a feed host, rather than a reader host? If so, it won't work without a patch. Python's nntp library can't handle INN right; there have been a couple of patches suggested in the mailman developers list after I found the trouble; I have a one line patch that does solve the problem. However, if you use python in house for other news server functions, *might*, although I doubt it, cause side effects if your software cares what the machine banner says, and you ever use it with non inn software... If you don't know the answer to the questions, telnet to your news server's port 119 from the mailman server. Does it say "200 somehostname InterNetNews server INN x.x adatestring ready" or does it say "200 somehostname InterNetNews NNRP server INN x.x adatestring etc" If it says the former, you have the problem, and need to patch python.

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Archives...
by David Bennett 13 Oct '99

13 Oct '99

Morning, I seem to have a problem with my archives. They have suddenly started failing to log... I had to move the entire mailman tree onto another disk partition recently and suddenly the archives stoped archiving. The .mbox files do not grow and nothing is written into the html piper logs either. There are no error messages... Everything fails silently. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, David.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't change with admin pages
by Per Starback 13 Oct '99

13 Oct '99

On mailman-users I wrote about problems I had with one particular list that I couldn't admin with the web interface. Now I know why, and I send this followup to the developer list too, since it might be reason to change something. It turned out that Mailman never sent out any cookies for that particular list. Why? Because the list administrator (not me!) had changed the Base URL for the list by removing "http://" at the beginning of the url. (I don't know what he was trying to achieve with that, but I can understand that some people might be tempted to that with all the non-URL "URLs" that are printed everywhere like that.) Mailman uses the Base URL for cookie stuff. In MakeCookie there is a line path = urlparse(self.web_page_url)[2] # '/mailman' For one of my sensible lists path here became '/mailman/' (note: not exactly as in the comment) but for the bogus list it became instead something else, and I guess that's where things started to go wrong. I changed the Base URL back, and then it works fine again. So what should the lesson be? I'm not sure, but it is nice if Mailman can support clueless list administrators (as long as the main Mailman administrator has a clue) so I don't think the right answer is just "so don't do that!". Probably it shouldn't be allowed to set "Base URL" to any string. I suggest instead that the Mailman administrator should be able to set what basenames should be possible, and the list administrators only can chose from those values. (Most sites would only have one possible value, and then that section could preferrably be deleted from the list admin pages.) -- Per Starback <starback(a)ling.uu.se> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html> "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" P.S. I loved the comments in MakeCookie!

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password problems
by Listwrangler 13 Oct '99

13 Oct '99

I've been away for a while and not slogged through my Mailman email, so I apologize if this topic has been covered. This is my latest twist on the password difficulties: Some users are receiving new passwords when they get their monthly reminders. I have had one of my personal accounts with this problem, and one of my users has also been bright enough to notice that what he got is not what he had chosen when he signed up. I have several other users who aren't very savvy, all they know is that their password doesn't work. This could be their problem. (Yes, I have a lot BDUs -- brain dead users.) It's a rather elegant security tactic to randomly change passwords on a monthly basis, but all the same, it's one of those things I would rather have the option of choosing whether to implement. I'd also like the opportunity to set the frequency of the password reminder sending, eg, I have lists where once a quarter or even once a year would be good enough. I'd also like to be able to force a password sending, if desired necessary. In the good news, my ISP has finally reset the password so I can get into the admin pages I've been locked out of for a month. Any luck on getting the ability to email your administrative password to yourself? Thanks for the help folks on the list have given me. Gary Listwrangler listwrangler(a)iximd.com List administrator and webmaster ***************************** For help with subscribe/unsubscribe, troubleshooting, or more info about The American Boyz email lists, please visit: home.iximd.com/~amboyz/online.html, or request a copy of the Amboyz Elist Help File to be emailed to you. If you are familiar with Mailman, the following lists are implemented with Mailman and use standard Mailman features: Amboyz-Main, Amboyz-Announce, TrueSpirit, and ElderTG ***************************** The American Boyz, Inc. (not-for-profit) 212A S. Bridge St, #131, Elkton, MD, 21921 FAX: 410-620-2024; Phone: 410-620-2161 URL: home.iximd.com/~amboyz; EMAIL: amboyz(a)iximd.com

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Rejecting fails
by Jeffrey Haas 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

Hi - I've run across an odd problem with one list on a system running Mailman 1.0. For this one list, if I choose to reject a message from the administrative requests page, the rejection notificaiton never gets sent. For other lists on the same server, this works fine. The rejection is logged in ~mailman/logs/vette, but there is no indication that mailman has tried to pass the message on to sendmail. Nothing appears in the sendmail log. We're suspecting that perhaps the database has become corrupted for this list. Any suggestions for tracking this down or for recovering the database if it is corrupted? Thanks for any help.

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Archive question....can we not see attachments???
by Hostmaster 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

Hello... I was wondering if there was a way so that when a person views the archives, that if there is an attachment with it(say a jpg) that when it stores it you see the gif/jpg instead of the uuencode stuff?? ie: http://www.stupidguytalk.org/pipermail/adult-jokes/ Thanks! Rob Morin Montreal, Canada

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Internationalization Projects?
by OpenSoftware Crew 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

Are there any attempts to translate Mailman into other languages or better to make Mailman ready for an easy translation into whatever language? Pol email: pumilia(a)est.it

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Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #353 - 10 msgs
by Michael Ghens 11 Oct '99

11 Oct '99

Tried a news gateway test. This is the error: Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/other/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 119, in ? main() File "/home/other/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 79, in main r,c,first,last,n = conn.group(mlist.linked_newsgroup) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/nntplib.py", line 208, in group resp = self.shortcmd('GROUP ' + name) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/nntplib.py", line 158, in shortcmd return self.getresp() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/nntplib.py", line 134, in getresp raise error_perm, resp nntplib.error_perm: 500 "GROUP" not implemented; try "help". Any sugguestions?

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