Mailman 3 December 2001 - Mailman-Users

Mailman not sending out mail
by Michelle Brownsworth 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

Gentle friends, I'm having a problem with Mailman 2.06, running on FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE. It has been working perfectly up until now, serving three lists. All of a sudden it won't send out mail posted to a list, although the wrapper receives it. Here's the most recent post made by the moderator of the largest (1500) list: Dec 25 20:41:05 straylight sendmail[48896]: fBQ4f4U48896: from=<FISH1IFR(a)aol.com >, size=66192, class=0, nrcpts=1, >msgid=<f3.13c33a14.295aad85(a)aol.com>, proto=ES MTP, daemon=MTA, relay=imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37] Dec 25 20:41:06 straylight sendmail[48897]: fBQ4f4U48896: to="|/usr/local/mailma n/mail/wrapper post fishlink", ctladdr=<fishlink(a)straylight.primelogic.com> (1/0 ), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=95692, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent The cron jobs seem to be running every minute: 68546 ?? I 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) 68550 ?? Is 0:00.01 /bin/sh -c /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner 68554 ?? I 0:00.67 /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner But I'm getting this message in /usr/local/mailman/logs: Dec 25 20:48:01 2001 (48945) Could not acquire qrunner lock Dec 25 20:49:02 2001 (48948) Could not acquire qrunner lock Dec 25 20:50:02 2001 (48956) Could not acquire qrunner lock Dec 25 20:51:02 2001 (48960) Could not acquire qrunner lock Dec 25 20:52:01 2001 (48968) Could not acquire qrunner lock Dec 25 20:54:02 2001 (48977) Could not acquire qrunner lock Dec 25 20:55:03 2001 (48986) Could not acquire qrunner lock Lock files are being created: /usr/local/mailman/locks# ls -al total 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Dec 26 12:07 . drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 512 Oct 31 14:55 .. -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 69 Dec 26 21:52 qrunner.lock -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 69 Dec 26 21:52 qrunner.lock.straylight.primelogic.com.68866 /usr/local/mailman/locks# ls -al total 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Dec 26 12:46 . drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 512 Oct 31 14:55 .. -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 69 Dec 26 22:28 qrunner.lock -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 69 Dec 26 22:28 qrunner.lock.straylight.primelogic.com.69414 Oddly, the times on the lockfiles are off, set in the future. Here's the current time: /usr/local/mailman/locks# date Wed Dec 26 12:47:11 PST 2001 I removed the locks as a test but they were recreated with different numeric extensions. /usr/local/mailman/logs/post has no entries corresponding to the post above. Also, if the problem is solved the list owner will not want all three of his attempts to post to be delivered. Is there a means to delete the last two attempts so his subscribers won't be spammed with the same newsletter? Hope someone can shed some light, because I'm at a loss here. .\\ichelle --------------------- Michelle Brownsworth System Administrator PrimeLogic Corporation http://www.primelogic.com

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-request errors and password question
by Nissley_Ron/EMM＠mail.emm.org 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

When I send -request messages to my list, for example list-request(a)mail.mydomain.org, I receive errors like this: This is an automated response. There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via the administrative address <list-request(a)mail.mydomain.org>. To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to <list-request(a)mail.mydomain.org> with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. The odd thing is that the correct result of the -request command is usually below this "error" message. Anyone have an idea what might be going on? Also, I would like to configure a list so that the subscribers are not required to have passwords. Is this possible? Ron

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Re:Re:Re:Re:- I'm drowning in Re's
by Matthew Easton 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

This might be a feature request. I've got Mailman 2.0.8 with sendmail on RedHat 7.2. It's a test box on a private network. My subject headers get longer and longer with each post and reply. Like this: Subject: [Mynewtest] Re: [Mynewtest] Re: [Mynewtest] Re: [Mynewtest] Yet another fascinating post Annoying if you have extended conversations. It's not clear to me whether this is a problem with my mail client ( I'm testing with squirrelmail, an open source webmail app.) or with my Mailman configuration. Regardless of the source, I think it would be useful if Mailman were able to automatically trim the superfluous "Re: [Mytest]" repetitions. Anyone come up against this and can give me a clue? Thank you. -- Matthew Easton Sublunar Networks http://sublunar.com

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configuration doubt
by sam 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

Hello All, I am using mailman as announcement list. i want to deny list users from posting mail to list. Is it possible in mailman. please cc to mrjackin(a)yahoo.co.uk for your replies. Thanks Sam

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configuration doubt
by sam 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

Hello All, I am using mailman as announcement list. i want to deny list users from posting mail to list. Is it possible in mailman. please cc to mrjackin(a)yahoo.co.uk for your replies. Thanks Sam

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struggling with "minor" mailman upgrade
by Skip Montanaro 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

Over the past week I have upgraded several bits and pieces of the machine from which I run a small number of Mailman-administered mailing lists. Mail still isn't flowing, the natives are getting restless, and I'm about to throw my laptop out the window. I'm hopeful someone here can steer me in the right direction. I am running Mandrake 8.1, sendmail 8.12.1 and mailman 2.0.8. Any time I try to post a message to the mailing list I get the following barf from smrsh: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner cedu" (reason: Service unavailable) (expanded from: cedu-admin ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable /usr/sbin/smrsh was compiled with /etc/smrsh as its CMDDIR, verified with the strings command: # strings -a /usr/sbin/smrsh | egrep /etc /etc/smrsh /etc/smrsh contains a link to /home/mailman/mail/wrapper: # ls -l /etc/smrsh/wrapper lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mar 14 2001 /etc/smrsh/wrapper -> /home/mailman/mail/wrapper* which, when dereferenced, seems fine to me: # ls -lL /etc/smrsh/wrapper -rwxr-sr-x 1 skip mailman 39212 Dec 10 13:41 /etc/smrsh/wrapper* If I run the above wrapper command manually, it complains: # /home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner cedu Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 0. (Reconfigure to take 0?) This I don't understand, because the program is clearly set gid to the mailman group (which happens to be gid 70, not 12 or 0 - gid 12 is the mail group). Mailman was configured as ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=nogroup I tried configuring with-mail-gid=mailman instead and got: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner cedu" (reason: 2) (expanded from: cedu-admin ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 70, GOT gid 12. (Reconfigure to take 12?) 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 FWIW, /usr/sbin/sendmail is setgid smmsp (gid == 25). Should that be the with-mail-gid? Before upgrading from Mandrake 7.2 to 8.1 I was happily using sendmail 8.12.0 and mailman 2.0.6. After the upgrade I fell back to sendmail 8.11.6 and my problems began. Today I installed sendmail 8.12.1 and upgraded to mailman 2.0.8. Any suggestions appreciated... -- Skip Montanaro (skip(a)pobox.com - http://www.mojam.com/)

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Announcement Only List
by mel 25 Dec '01

25 Dec '01

I mentioned this little problem last week with no reply so maybe try a different approach. I have a client with 12 list 11 of them are normal but #12 is going to become a big problem after 1/1/02 when it becomes active. This list is set up to send a daily message to the subscribers. the message is driven by a perl script. I have set up an Explicit Reply address in the General options and in the Privacy section I have Restrict Posting off and allow posting only from the perl script and the list administrator. But I for see a huge problem. The list is currently public, but the announcements don't begin until the first of the year. Already the list has 500+ members and the list admin. has already be hit with a dozen that have tried to post to the list. I realize that what I need to do must be done with withlist from what I read. But how do I use withlist to remove the CC: address from outgoing messages and strip the two lines from the welcome message that say: To post to this list send email to: xxx(a)xxx.xxx (List name) In other word totally hide the address of the list from the users! If someone would be so kind as to lend a hand then this ISP will have a chance to have a Happy New Year. Mel -- -------------------------- System Janitor/Network Plumber http://www.nwla.com Linux User #25446 Linux 2.4.7 --------------------------

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Incorrect version on www.list.org!
by Gregg Sperling 25 Dec '01

25 Dec '01

I was referred to download the Mailman tarball from www.list.org. It has version 2.0.7. Once I actually read through the www.list.org website when I was having bug problems with 2.0.7, I found out there was a 2.0.8 on sourceforge. Somebody should either update the www.list.org website to have the latest version, or redirect download requests to sourceforge. Just a suggestion.

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Umbrella Lists
by Marc Perkel 24 Dec '01

24 Dec '01

I don't quite understand how to do an umbrella list. I I have 3 lists ListA ListB and ListC I have another list ListABC that sends to the other three lists. I want to be able to send to ListABC - but when I do - the message gets moderated. And I can't seem to get past that even though I'm running the system open. Anyone know how to fix that?

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Admin problems in Mailman
by Michael Wilson 24 Dec '01

24 Dec '01

Hi Mailman, I am the admin person for a Mailman group and I have found that the mailout to all the subscribed members doesn't work. I first send the message I want to the list address. I appears in the admin area asking me to approve, defer etc. I approve it and submit data, but it is still not sent to the List members. What is going on? Thanks for any hints. Michael J. Wilson

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