Mailman 3 February 2001 - Mailman-Users

Problem with DNS resolutions
by Matthew Seidl 26 Feb '01

26 Feb '01

I have a person on one of my lists who's DNS server went away. Ever since, all the messages sent to me mailman setup seem to be getting stuck. Even to lists this person is not on. Some log execerts. post: Feb 26 09:49:08 2001 (20692) post to duelists from cm_edanya(a)yahoo.com, size=888, 1 failures Feb 26 09:51:51 2001 (20692) post to duelists from patricel(a)aol.com, size=334, 1 failures Feb 26 09:57:43 2001 (21510) post to duelists from cm_edanya(a)yahoo.com, size=440, 1 failures Feb 26 10:00:26 2001 (21510) post to duelists from nimrod(a)pnv.net, size=2180, 1 failures Feb 26 10:03:09 2001 (21510) post to duelists from cm_edanya(a)yahoo.com, size=888, 1 failures Feb 26 10:05:51 2001 (21510) post to duelists from patricel(a)aol.com, size=334, 1 failures Feb 26 10:08:34 2001 (21510) post to awakeners from luminous_shadows(a)usa.net, size=291, 1 failures Feb 26 10:11:17 2001 (21510) post to duelists from seidl(a)vex.cs.colorado.edu, size=660, 1 failures Feb 26 10:14:43 2001 (24185) post to duelists from cm_edanya(a)yahoo.com, size=440, 1 failures Feb 26 10:17:26 2001 (24185) post to duelists from nimrod(a)pnv.net, size=2180, 1 failures Feb 26 10:20:09 2001 (24185) post to duelists from cm_edanya(a)yahoo.com, size=888, 1 failures Feb 26 10:22:51 2001 (24185) post to duelists from patricel(a)aol.com, size=334, 1 failures smtp-failure: Feb 26 09:57:43 2001 (21510) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:00:26 2001 (21510) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:03:09 2001 (21510) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:05:51 2001 (21510) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:08:34 2001 (21510) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:11:17 2001 (21510) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:14:43 2001 (24185) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:17:26 2001 (24185) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:20:09 2001 (24185) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) Feb 26 10:22:51 2001 (24185) 450 punzel(a)erzo.org (4.7.1 <punzel(a)erzo.org>... Can not check MX records for recipient host erzo.org) smtp: Feb 26 10:03:09 2001 (21510) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.429 seconds Feb 26 10:05:51 2001 (21510) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.442 seconds Feb 26 10:08:34 2001 (21510) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.520 seconds Feb 26 10:11:17 2001 (21510) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.434 seconds Feb 26 10:14:43 2001 (24185) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.435 seconds Feb 26 10:17:26 2001 (24185) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.426 seconds Feb 26 10:20:09 2001 (24185) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.431 seconds Feb 26 10:22:51 2001 (24185) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 162.426 seconds The sytem is FreeBSD 4.2, using Sendmail 8.11.1. Until this happened, everything was working fine. So, is this a mailman bug, where its getting stuck on only messages to this person? Or a sendmail issue with not delivering past the bad address? The thing that's really confusing me is the messages in the qfiles directory for lists that the bad user isn't on that are not being delivered. Help? -=- Matthew L. Seidl email: seidl(a)cs.colorado.edu =-= =-= Graduate Student Project . . . What Project? -=- -=- http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~seidl/Home.html -Morrow Quotes =-= =-= http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~seidl/lawsuit -=-

1 0

mailman 2.0.1
by Steve Williams 26 Feb '01

26 Feb '01

Ok, I've got it set up and it's running and it's fun. BUT... When I set up a mail-news gateway mailman seems to dump the imported newsgroups files into /tmp, and then leave them there. Is this a known issue, and if so, is there a fix? OR should I just have cron nuke those files after a specified time? Thanks! -Steve

1 0

1. Subscribe 2. Reply 3. No Error anywhere... Using Sendmail on RH7
by Stanton Schell 26 Feb '01

26 Feb '01

Hello, I am having an unusual problem that is leaving no trail whatsoever. I have been through the Install docs and almost the entire mailing list archives and nothing (well, similar problems, but not a problem at exactly the same sopt...). So, I have set up MM in the directory /mailman on my machine. I have set up a test list called "speak". The admin and listinfo sections are working and so is the CGI part entirely as far as I can see. I tried subscribing to this list as a user and get the confirmation email as expected. I then reply and then.. nothing. Here is my Sendmail log entries for the email, which show nothing wrong: Feb 21 23:18:29 mies sendmail[23475]: f1M4ITZ23475: from=<stanton(a)livsform.com>, size=1462, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<B6B9FDA8.A17%stanton(a)livsform.com>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=w120.z064000106.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.106.120] Feb 21 23:18:32 mies sendmail[23476]: f1M4ITZ23475: to="|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailcmd speak", ctladdr=<speak-request(a)talktothedogg.com> (8/0), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=prog, pri=31044, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent I tested sendmail to make sure it could execute another script and it can. The user is not signed up and the pending status is still on the subscription request in ~/logs/subscribe. {As a side note, I also think it is odd that I have signed up for this list, received the confirmation email immediately, replied to it, all in the same fashion and have still not heard back from mailman at python.org for a few hours...} Any help would be appreciated :-) -stanton schell -- Stanton Schell livsform design group stanton(a)livsform.com 703-538-3491 703-989-6591

3 4

Closed Newsletter, No Password
by Tony Morelli 26 Feb '01

26 Feb '01

Hello, I am *not* a programmer or developer -- but I want to provide visitors to my site a newsletter service that adheres to the following: + Completely closed list -- only the listowner may send messages to the list. + NO password required for subscribing or unsubscribing. + Double opt-in, of course. Can I do this with MailMan without coding? -- TM

1 0

Mailling List
by MAIL_CAR 25 Feb '01

25 Feb '01

I own a webhosting company and use your software. I have a problem that your mailing list doesnt let his name with "." in it e.g. "hgs.in.london" it makes "hgsinlondon", not good FIX it now. so here I ask can this be done? Thank you for your time. Edward Oden CEO EdwardOden(a)trainyardsoftware.com TRAIN YARD SOFYWARE www.trainyardsoftware.com

2 1

Continured mail problems..
by John McGarrigle 25 Feb '01

25 Feb '01

Mailman dosn't seem to like me much...; The original message was received at Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:08:52 GMT from [192.168.5.2] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post opers" (expanded from: <opers(a)afternet.org>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/post", line 94, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/scripts/post", line 89, in main msg.Enqueue(mlist, tolist=1) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 176, in Enqueue dbfp = Utils.open_ex(dbfile, 'w') File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 606, in open_ex fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/qfiles/f42e17ac3c90c04cba96ae5608d5929d444f21cf.db' 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post opers"... unknown mailer error 1 Any tips? :) OS: FreeBSD MTA: Sendmail Python V 2.0 Mailman V 2.1 Please CC your response to me at neuron(a)easynet.co.uk.. my mailserver is having a fit just now - (not the one mailman is running on :) Thanks! ---- John 'Neuron' McGarrigle Email: johnm(a)ic5.net ICQ: 18220396 Phone: +44 (0)7944 604 644 ----

1 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: 1. Subscribe 2. Reply 3. No Error anywhere...
by Stanton Schell 25 Feb '01

25 Feb '01

No, the ~mailman/logs/error file is empty. -stanton -- Stanton Schell livsform design group stanton(a)livsform.com 703-538-3491 703-989-6591 > From: Dan Mick <dan.mick(a)west.sun.com> > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:15:37 -0800 > To: Stanton Schell <stanton(a)livsform.com> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: 1. Subscribe 2. Reply 3. No Error > anywhere... > > > So are the cron jobs running? Are they reporting any errors to user mailman? > Are they reporting any errors in ~mailman/logs/error? > > Stanton Schell wrote: >> >> Sorry, I executed the crontab command in installation as well... >> >> -stanton >> >>> You don't mention cron. Why is that? >>> >>> Stanton Schell wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello , >>>> I posted this email yesterday. I just have one thing to add - this same >>>> problem also occurs on the out-of-the-box installation of RedHat 6.2 as >> well... >>>> >>>> -stanton >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Stanton Schell >>>> livsform design group >>>> stanton(a)livsform.com >>>> 703-538-3491 >>>> 703-989-6591 >>>> >>>> ------ Forwarded Message >>>>> From: Stanton Schell <stanton(a)livsform.com> >>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:13:25 -0500 >>>>> To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> >>>>> Subject: 1. Subscribe 2. Reply 3. No Error anywhere... Using Sendmail >> on >>>>> RH7 >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am having an unusual problem that is leaving no trail whatsoever. I >> have >>>>> been through the Install docs and almost the entire mailing list archives >> and >>>>> nothing (well, similar problems, but not a problem at exactly the same >>>>> sopt...). >>>>> >>>>> So, I have set up MM in the directory /mailman on my machine. I have set >> up >>>>> a test list called "speak". The admin and listinfo sections are working >> and >>>>> so is the CGI part entirely as far as I can see. I tried subscribing to >>>>> this >>>>> list as a user and get the confirmation email as expected. I then reply >>>>> and >>>>> then.. nothing. >>>>> >>>>> Here is my Sendmail log entries for the email, which show nothing >> wrong: >>>>> >>>>> Feb 21 23:18:29 mies sendmail[23475]: f1M4ITZ23475: >>>>> from=<stanton(a)livsform.com>, size=1462, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>>>> msgid=<B6B9FDA8.A17%stanton(a)livsform.com>, proto=ESMTP, >> daemon=MTA, >>>>> relay=w120.z064000106.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.106.120] >>>>> >>>>> Feb 21 23:18:32 mies sendmail[23476]: f1M4ITZ23475: to="|/etc/smrsh/ >> wrapper >>>>> mailcmd speak", ctladdr=<speak-request(a)talktothedogg.com> (8/0), >>>>> delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=prog, pri=31044, dsn=2.0.0, >> stat=Sent >>>>> >>>>> I tested sendmail to make sure it could execute another script and it can. >>>>> >>>>> The user is not signed up and the pending status is still on the >> subscription >>>>> request in ~/logs/subscribe. >>>>> >>>>> {As a side note, I also think it is odd that I have signed up for this >>>>> list, >>>>> received the confirmation email immediately, replied to it, all in the >>>>> same >>>>> fashion and have still not heard back from mailman at python.org for a >> few >>>>> hours...} >>>>> >>>>> Any help would be appreciated :-) >>>>> >>>>> -stanton schell >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Stanton Schell >>>>> livsform design group >>>>> stanton(a)livsform.com >>>>> 703-538-3491 >>>>> 703-989-6591 >>>> >>>> ------ End of Forwarded Message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> >> -- >> Stanton Schell >> stanton(a)livsform.com >> 703.989.6591 >> 703.538.3491

1 0

load across servers
by Ashley M. Kirchner 24 Feb '01

24 Feb '01

Has anyone tried installing mailman on one server, in a directory that's NFS mounted on a second machine (so that mailman is essentially available on both servers), and have the load be distributed across both machines? In other words: have the entire mailman config and db files, NFS mounted on server two. Mirror the sendmail aliases files and set the servers up so that for sendmail, one is a master, and one is a backup so that when one server becomes busy (sending mail out), the other can receive mail for mailman, process it, and send mail out as well (instead of having to wait for the primary server to become available)? Theoretically, if that works, one should also be able to do the same for the web interface. Instead of having one single web server to serve, setup a second one (same name, different IP, using round robin) that can do the same. Since the main mailman files are really only on one machine (but visible through NFS on the other) it ought to work, no? Comments? -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BEEEEP! |____________________________________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .................. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

1 0

Outlook - Notify
by Jacopo Silva 24 Feb '01

24 Feb '01

If someone sends to a list a message with a request to the readers of notifying when read, the list-admin will be flooded of messages. Any ideas on "cleaning' any message from request of notification before posting to list members? Jacopo

1 0

Perms Help (AGAIN)
by Jeme A Brelin 24 Feb '01

24 Feb '01

If you can help with any part of this, please let me know. I'm going to repeat some concerns from an email of early this week... Please understand that I'm getting mail from cron every FIVE MINUTES regarding the second problem and every half hour regarding the first. Please help if you can at all. I've rephrased and restructured my questions. I was fixing my archives (which had never worked, but now do... it was an apache problem in the end, I think) when I munged all these file permissions. I have a working install of mailman (compiled slightly differently) and compared the two and I THINK the file perms between them are analogous. In the process of cleaning some stuff, one lock file was deleted. So here's one of the cron errors I get. Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 46, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 39, in main lockfile.lock() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Does anyone know how to recreate this lockfile? ------------------------------------- I ran check_perms -f and it no longer gives errors and I tried to make the ownerships analogous to those in /usr/local/imc (the OTHER installation), but I'm still getting the following cron errors: But I'm still getting this message every five minutes: Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 119, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 58, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 810, in Load raise Errors.MMBadListError, 'Failed to access config info' MMBadListError: Failed to access config info It seems like everything else works, but I don't have any lists that are gating to a newsgroup. So why is this one failing, but the lists are still working fine? Thanks so much for any input. J. -- ----------------- Jeme A Brelin jeme(a)brelin.net ----------------- [cc] counter-copyright http://www.openlaw.org ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

2 5