Mailman 3 April 2002 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ?
by J C Lawrence 27 Apr '02

27 Apr '02

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ?
by Danny Terweij 27 Apr '02

27 Apr '02

RE: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ?I am using 2.0.10 Never tested 2.0.8 fully. Did setup and test the functionality in 2.0.8 and then 2.0.10 came out and upgraded it. Now i have about 6 lists. many people are subscribed (30-66) and posted kb is between 1k and 4mb . Mostly around 300kb. But it costs ages to empty the whole qfiles dir here... Danny. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bueschel, Eric W RWBAHC DIN-PACS To: 'Danny Terweij' Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:11 AM Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? What version of mm are you using? I'm using 2.0.9. Seems like I've heard a lot of people complain about qrunner running slow. Is it a problem in 2.0.10? Eric -----Original Message----- From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny@poema.yi.org] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:36 PM To: Bueschel, Eric W RWBAHC DIN-PACS; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? Hmm I wonder some thing... My mailman linux server is behind a firewall. [internet] \/ router \/ MAIN-SERVER (xxx.yyy.com) (A) \/ MAILMAN SERVER (lnx.xxx.yyy.com) (B) When some person sends an mail to test(a)lnx.xxx.yyy.com , the server (A) sends it to (B). Webpages are get by http://lnx.xxx.yyy.com/ and Apache redirects it on (A) to http://xxx.yyy.com:81/. This last url is port forwarded from the router to http://internal-ip-server(B):80/ Outgoing mail from mailman : SMTPDirect module to 127.0.0.1 port 25 (sendmail) Sendmail is configured to not deliver directly but send all mail to server (A). DNS master is (A) (outside requests and backup for internal LAN) DNS slave is (B) (For internal LAN requests) So i do not think it is an MTA DNS resolving stuff. Maybe i am wrong but all the DNS resolvings at above situation are on Server (A). Because there are the outgoing messages real processed for the internet. I see there the mx lookups and not on server (B). Danny. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bueschel, Eric W RWBAHC DIN-PACS To: mailman-users(a)python.org Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? Ok, I am also seeing that problem, below is an excerpt from the faq. I am using sendmail for my MTA, how would I turn this off on my box? I looked in README.SENDMAIL and it didn't address it. Eric Q. I'm getting really terrible performance for outgoing messages. It seems that if the MTA has trouble resolving DNS for any recipients, qrunner just gets really slow clearing the queue. Any ideas? A. What's likely happening is that your MTA is doing DNS resolution on recipients for messages delivered locally (i.e. from Mailman to your MTA via SMTPDirect.py). This is a Bad Thing. You need to turn off synchronous DNS resolution for messages originating from the local host. In Exim, the value to edit is receiver_verify_hosts. See README.EXIM for details. Other MTAs have (of course) different parameters and defaults that control this. First check the README file for your MTA and then consult your MTA's own documentation. > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny@terweij.nl] > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:49 AM > To: jonc(a)nc.rr.com; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? > > > From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc(a)nc.rr.com> > > Are messages going out from Mailman? In otherwords, is > qrunner stuck on > one > > or two messages? > > Every message is going out. But qrunner is very slow (or > something else). > > With ps ax i see : > > 4609 ? R 41:19 /usr/bin/python -S > /var/mailman/cron/qrunner > > Danny. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >

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Another new user looking for help
by Tonie 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

I've managed to get Mailman 2.0.10 installed, and it looks like everything's okay except for one problem - which cgi handles the creation of new lists, and where does it show what aliases should be put into the /etc/aliases file? I looked for a cgi called "create", but it is missing. The list admin cgi's seem to be working fine. When I used newlist to create a list, the aliases weren't given. What's wrong here? Thanks! Tonie _______________________________________________________

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Fw: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ?
by Danny Terweij 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

RE: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? Hmm I wonder some thing... My mailman linux server is behind a firewall. [internet] \/ router \/ MAIN-SERVER (xxx.yyy.com) (A) \/ MAILMAN SERVER (lnx.xxx.yyy.com) (B) When some person sends an mail to test(a)lnx.xxx.yyy.com , the server (A) sends it to (B). Webpages are get by http://lnx.xxx.yyy.com/ and Apache redirects it on (A) to http://xxx.yyy.com:81/. This last url is port forwarded from the router to http://internal-ip-server(B):80/ Outgoing mail from mailman : SMTPDirect module to 127.0.0.1 port 25 (sendmail) Sendmail is configured to not deliver directly but send all mail to server (A). DNS master is (A) (outside requests and backup for internal LAN) DNS slave is (B) (For internal LAN requests) So i do not think it is an MTA DNS resolving stuff. Maybe i am wrong but all the DNS resolvings at above situation are on Server (A). Because there are the outgoing messages real processed for the internet. I see there the mx lookups and not on server (B). Danny. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bueschel, Eric W RWBAHC DIN-PACS To: mailman-users(a)python.org Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? Ok, I am also seeing that problem, below is an excerpt from the faq. I am using sendmail for my MTA, how would I turn this off on my box? I looked in README.SENDMAIL and it didn't address it. Eric Q. I'm getting really terrible performance for outgoing messages. It seems that if the MTA has trouble resolving DNS for any recipients, qrunner just gets really slow clearing the queue. Any ideas? A. What's likely happening is that your MTA is doing DNS resolution on recipients for messages delivered locally (i.e. from Mailman to your MTA via SMTPDirect.py). This is a Bad Thing. You need to turn off synchronous DNS resolution for messages originating from the local host. In Exim, the value to edit is receiver_verify_hosts. See README.EXIM for details. Other MTAs have (of course) different parameters and defaults that control this. First check the README file for your MTA and then consult your MTA's own documentation. > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny@terweij.nl] > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:49 AM > To: jonc(a)nc.rr.com; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? > > > From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc(a)nc.rr.com> > > Are messages going out from Mailman? In otherwords, is > qrunner stuck on > one > > or two messages? > > Every message is going out. But qrunner is very slow (or > something else). > > With ps ax i see : > > 4609 ? R 41:19 /usr/bin/python -S > /var/mailman/cron/qrunner > > Danny. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ?
by Bueschel, Eric W RWBAHC DIN-PACS 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Ok, I am also seeing that problem, below is an excerpt from the faq. I am using sendmail for my MTA, how would I turn this off on my box? I looked in README.SENDMAIL and it didn't address it. Eric Q. I'm getting really terrible performance for outgoing messages. It seems that if the MTA has trouble resolving DNS for any recipients, qrunner just gets really slow clearing the queue. Any ideas? A. What's likely happening is that your MTA is doing DNS resolution on recipients for messages delivered locally (i.e. from Mailman to your MTA via SMTPDirect.py). This is a Bad Thing. You need to turn off synchronous DNS resolution for messages originating from the local host. In Exim, the value to edit is receiver_verify_hosts. See README.EXIM for details. Other MTAs have (of course) different parameters and defaults that control this. First check the README file for your MTA and then consult your MTA's own documentation. > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny@terweij.nl] > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:49 AM > To: jonc(a)nc.rr.com; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Long delay for qrunner ? > > > From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc(a)nc.rr.com> > > Are messages going out from Mailman? In otherwords, is > qrunner stuck on > one > > or two messages? > > Every message is going out. But qrunner is very slow (or > something else). > > With ps ax i see : > > 4609 ? R 41:19 /usr/bin/python -S > /var/mailman/cron/qrunner > > Danny. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >

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Can't log in anymore!
by Brian Teal 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

I need to get into the mailman program to get rid of some of the archives, they are pushing the limit of space on my server. However, when I call up the login page and fill in my password (which is the correct one) it never goes anywhere, it just cyles. Any ideas?? ASAP!?! THANKS! ____________________ Brian brian(a)pro-phile.com

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Update list...
by Alex Sammons 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Hi there!!! How can i update a list in command line, i mean by crontab, etc... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? La emoción e intensidad del deporte en Yahoo! Deportes. http://deportes.yahoo.com.mx

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Re: [Mailman-Users] change multiple
by Detlef Neubauer 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Sandro Pons <pons18(a)yahoo.com> writes: > is it possible to change the e-mail address > to a new one without unsubscribe and rejoin all the > lists? No. > is it possible for the mailman admin to change it? No. He must also unsubscribe your old address and subscribe your new address. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo.

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Unsubscribing
by Gibsonha＠aol.com 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

How do I unsubscribe from your site? Thanks

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Re: looping mails
by Larry Gadallah 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

FWIW - I just experienced the same symptoms running 2.1b1. _VERY_ embarassing, especially after telling everyone how Mailman would be so much more fun than Majordomo. > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:37:54 +0530 (IST) > From: Francis Jayakanth <franc(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Users] looping mails > Precedence: bulk > List-Help: <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=help> > List-Post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> > List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> > List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/> > > Dear Member: > > We are using mailman for about two years now. We are constantly upgrading > the mailman software as and when the updates are available. We are now > using mailman 2.09 on Redhat Linux 6.0 with sendmail. > > Very often we encounter this problem of some posting, which gets into an > infinite loop. The same message will go on repeating indefinitely. We'll > then have to stop sendmail. Get into the qfiles dir. of mailman. Delete > all the qfiles and also delete the lock file from the the locks dir. If we > don't release the lock, the mails again start getting into the qfiles > area. > > My question is this. Why does mailman behave in this manner all of > sudden. And how do i overcome this problem. Has anybody else encountered > this problem. Once it so happened that just before leaving office I > approved couple of messages and then left for the day. The following > morning to my horror there were 400 odd messages to each of the > subscriber! > > Any leads to this problem will be greatly appreciated. > > bye, > > - Francis > > NCSI, IISc., > Bangalore, India > > > -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ larry AT gadallah DOT com 33.06.00.612N 117.07.05.916W 210Z http://www.gadallah.com/~larry Key fingerprint = D6 79 5D 9D 41 27 74 03 68 FD D7 F3 86 68 EB A5

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