Mailman 3 June 2003 - Mailman-Users

Subject: (<email.Header.Header instance at 0x832b7cc>, )
by Ron Guerin 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

I've been trying to figure this out for days, and have gotten nowhere. All of my administrative Mailman mail comes back looking like this: Subject: (<email.Header.Header instance at 0x832b7cc>,) when it should say something like this: Subject: Your new mailing list: mailman I'm guessing it's a configuration setting, but I can't find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? - Ron

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Re: why does this happen and can it be fixed?
by Paul H Byerly 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Adam Lipson wrote: >Finally sometimes email comes across like this A few lines below this the rest of the digest is without line breaks. Clearly some part of the encoding instructions you gave caused this change. I've seen this a few times, and it's rather annoying and all but impossible to read. I'd love to find a way to prevent it. I won't send the quote as it will trash this digest too. I will privately e-mail it to anyone who wants to see it. <>< Paul

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spam filtering?
by Jeff Warnica 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

One would beleive, according to the front page of list.org, that mailman has integrated spam filters. Reading through the documentation and a bit of the source Im not quite sure how that is defined. Years ago I asked what "hooks for external (web) archivers" meant and was told that you can set up and alias ala "|/path/to/archiver".... So I read that feature list with a very large grain of salt. Here at a local communiy net majordomo has been in use for years and years. At some time in the past some custom spam filters were installed, and the list owners had the choice of having triggered mail bounced to them (for approval) or silently thrown away. What I would like is to have a simmilar setup if/when we migrate to Mailman.. All our incomming mail is being scanned by SpamAssassin, so all that mailman would need to do is check headers and hold for approval (or discard as an option) messages with an approiate spam score. Is this possible, and if so how would I set this up?

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Re: HellMail
by Paul H Byerly 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

Gerald wrote: >Subscribe this address to both of your lists (the one that fails to HotMail >and the one that works). I'll respond to the subscription verification >requests. Then send out test messages and I'll bounce back a full set of >headers so you can see if there is possibly something different aout the >failing list that may be causing HotMails spam filters to catch and discard >it. Thanks for the offer, I've already done that on on of my (way to many) other addresses. Someone who wrote off list pointed me in the right direction - HotMail's built in spam filters. The HotMail account was created when I needed an MSN ID for their messenger, and I have never used it. Rejects were being deleted rather than going to the junk folder. After some extensive testing I have determined that checking "Yes" for "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) " caused HotMail to see a message as spam. Who sends the mail to the list also matters, although I can not begin to explain why. I can send mail from one of my accounts directly to the HotMail account, but when that same account sends mail to the the Mailman list, HotMail sees it as spam. But another of my accounts can send directly and through the Mailman list. Just SOP at MS I guess. Since the subscription confirmation message goes through no matter what, I will just add a not to HotMail users there. Of course they will not read it, and I will have to send it again when they say "why am I not getting my mail". Sigh. <>< Paul

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why does this happen and can it be fixed?
by Adam Lipson 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

One of my users has complained about the digest version in 2.0.x (yes I know an upgrade is being worked on). Here are the problems (there are three). Is this a problem with the MTA, mailman, the client? I use outlook and the original messages come across just fine it just appears in the digest. Will an upgrade fix this? Thanks, Adam When it is set to MIME he gets large chunks of junk that outlook does not recognize like this: ------_=_NextPart_001_01C33C0B.0A46EB6D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Q2hhbmRydSBpcyBqdXN0IGhhdmluZyBoaXMgdXN1YWwgcmFudCBhbmQgZm9yZ2V0dGluZyB0aGF0 IGl0IGlzbid0IFBpY2sgYnV0IGhlIGRvZXNuJ3QgbWVhbiBhbnkgaGFybSA7LSkuIE5vIGFtb3Vu dCBvZiBwb3J0aW5nIHRvb2xzIHdvdWxkIGhhdmUgZ290IGhpbSBvdmVyIHRoZSB0aGluZ3MgaGUg Then also email appears poorly formatted like this: When someone like person one (the guy that wrote the original PICK ACCESS language) comments about how hard it is to convert to jBASE, when Finally sometimes email comes across like this ------_=_NextPart_001_01C33C1F.89379994 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY dir=3Dltr> <DIV><SPAN class=3D608551320-26062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>You=20 probably didn't mean to send this to the whole list did you=20

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Mailman lists location question
by Michael Wood 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

Does anyone know how/where the email addresses in the lists are stored. Are they located in text files somewhere?

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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 67
by Norbert Brazda 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Is there a way how I can find out (debug) reasons why Mailman discards messages without notice? norbert brazda(a)changenet.sk From: "Norbert Brazda" <brazda(a)changenet.sk> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] vette: Message discarded > > Some messages sent to some public, unmoderated mailinglists with no > content filtering set are still being automatically discarded by Mailman > with no notice sent to poster or listmaster. Mailinglist is set to HOLD > all problematic messages (sent by non-members, etc.) and send notification > to the poster and listmaster. > > here is piece from vette log file: > === > Jun 25 16:44:01 2003 (27393) Message discarded, msgid: > <337f01c33b28$8d2aaa20$0500000a@ab8> > ===

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"Error Invalid options to CGI script "
by Roger Luft 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Hello list I have a serious problem... I install the mailman version 2.1.2 in a Slackware 9.0 + Apache/1.3.27, But always when I try to access, for example, www.xxx.com/mailman/subscribe , it return the follow message: "Error Invalid options to CGI script " Dont know i do more..... help-me please thaks Roger Luft Administrador Linux - NIT10 Infoservice Coordenador de Infra-estrutura de Rede - NIT10.NET roger(a)nit10.com.br

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returned 6 from command
by Jakub Mateusz Mikusek 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Hello low, I've got serious problem: (testowa(a)kupiecpoz.pl is my mailinggroup) 2003-06-27 04:16:51 SMTP connection from host102-114.crowley.pl (image0.datastar.pl) [62.89.114.102]:3474 closed by QUIT 2003-06-27 04:16:51 cwd=/var/spool/exim 3 args: /usr/bin/exim -Mc 19VkfL-0005gt-1a 2003-06-27 04:16:51 19VkfL-0005gt-1a ** testowa(a)kupiecpoz.pl R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport: Child process of mailman_transport transport returned 6 from command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman 2003-06-27 04:16:51 cwd=/var/spool/exim 7 args: /usr/bin/exim -t -oem -oi -f <> -E19VkfL-0005gt-1a 2003-06-27 04:16:51 19VkfL-0005gz-6u <= <> R=19VkfL-0005gt-1a U=exim P=local S=1820 T="Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender" from <> for mick3y(a)image.datastar.pl mick3y(a)image.datastar.pl 2003-06-27 04:16:51 19VkfL-0005gt-1a Completed 2003-06-27 04:16:51 cwd=/var/spool/exim 3 args: /usr/bin/exim -Mc 19VkfL-0005gz-6u 2003-06-27 04:16:51 19VkfL-0005gz-6u => mick3y(a)image.datastar.pl R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=image.datastar.pl [62.89.114.242] C="250 Ok: queued as 4BFA5D6B" 2003-06-27 04:16:51 19VkfL-0005gz-6u Completed I've searched over google && FAQ on mailman website && documentation; nothing helped me. My exim configuration below: MAILMAN_HOME=/var/spool/mailman MAILMAN_WRAP=/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman MAILMAN_UID=mailman MAILMAN_GID=nobody # ^^^^^^ that's ok begin routers: (...) mailman_aliases: driver = redirect allow_defer allow_fail caseful_local_part data = ${lookup {${local_part}@${domain}}lsearch{/etc/mailman/aliases}} user = MAILMAN_UID group = MAILMAN_GID pipe_transport = mailman_transport retry_use_local_part mailman_router: driver = accept require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \ -confirm : -confirm+* : join : \ -leave : -owner : -request : -admin transport = mailman_transport begin transports: mailman_transport: driver = pipe command = MAILMAN_WRAP \ '{if def:local_part_suffix \ {${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \ {post}}' \ $local_part current_directory = MAILMAN_HOME home_directory = MAILMAN_HOME user = MAILMAN_UID group = MAILMAN_GID Any Ideas? Guys, I count on you, because I haven't got any more ideas. Regards, mick3y -- [.Jakub Mikusek:mick3y@wci.pl:....sysadm...]

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Help
by Naira Kaieski 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Hy, Was developed a portuguese version of Mailman? Thanks Chandra ------------------------------------------------- Este e-mail foi enviado pelo WEBMAIL FACCAT : http://correio.faccat.br/

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