Mailman 3 May 2004 - Mailman-Users

Attach banner on mailman
by Yohanes W 03 May '04

03 May '04

Hi there, I'm a new user to this list. I use mailman on my website and I need to place a banner at the bottom of every message. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated. Regards, Yohanes

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Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py
by Eric Pretorious 03 May '04

03 May '04

$prefix/bin/withlist doesn't seem to work now... (i.e., It worked yesterday!) > away mailman # bin/newlist bod(a)sunnyvalemetro.org > Enter the email of the person running the list: ericp(a)he.net > Initial bod password: > Hit enter to notify bod owner... > > away mailman # bin/withlist -l -r fix_url bod -v > Importing fix_url... > Running fix_url.fix_url()... > Loading list bod (locked) > Setting web_page_url to: http://mail.leaguehost.net/mailman/ > Setting host_name to: leaguehost.net > Saving list > Finalizing (Notice that the domain's been changed from 'sunnyvalemetro.org' to 'leaguehost.net'.) What's causing this? -- Eric P. Sunnyvale, CA =========mm_cfg.py:============ MTA = 'Postfix' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('mail.sunnyvalemetro.org','sunnyvalemetro.org') POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['sunnyvalemetro.org'] =========mm_cfg.py:============ ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py Date: Friday 30 April 2004 09:21 pm From: Eric Pretorious <eric(a)pretorious.net> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles(a)skynet.be> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org On Saturday 01 May 2004 06:15 pm, you wrote: > This is exactly the same sort of issue answered in FAQ 4.29 at > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>. Ah-ha - Now it makes sense! I re-read the page and followed the directions: > Existing versus new lists > ------------------------- > > Changing these things in mm_cfg.py will now effect new lists. > > If you want to update existing lists the $prefix/bin/withlist script > $prefix/bin/fix_url.py is your friend for resetting things. Just run > fix_url.py to get its usage. ...and it fixed things. Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML?
by Lloyd Tennison 03 May '04

03 May '04

What version are you using? There are several different HTML pages to manage Mailman. For instance, this list management info is at: http://mail.python.org/mailman/admin/mailman-users. Yours should be in a similar place. Look at the List- headrers for your own list and then select the admin page listed at the bottom of the Listinfo page. Oh, there is a php script -but the new interface has pretty much outdated it. If you cannot update your Mailman - the script is available at Sourceforge.net - check the Mailman section. ----- Original Message --------------- >Return-path: <mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org> >Envelope-to: lloyd(a)danandben.com >Delivery-date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:17:22 -0700 >Received: from [205.158.62.26] (helo=spf4.us4.outblaze.com) > by vipone.viplist.us with esmtp (Exim 4.24) > id 1BKkoU-00047W-Qp > for lloyd(a)danandben.com; Mon, 03 May 2004 14:17:22 -0700 >Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [12.155.117.29]) > by spf4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A4A53567 > for <lloyd_tennison(a)whoever.com>; Mon, 3 May 2004 21:11:55 +0000 (GMT) >Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) > id 1BKknx-0007bX-3K; Mon, 03 May 2004 17:16:49 -0400 >Received: from vhost109.his.com ([216.194.225.101]) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BKknW-0007Qf-Qd > for mailman-users(a)python.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 17:16:22 -0400 >Received: from [10.0.1.2] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) > by vhost109.his.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i43LGK2A053295; > Mon, 3 May 2004 17:16:21 -0400 (EDT) > (envelope-from brad.knowles(a)skynet.be) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: bs663385(a)pop.skynet.be >Message-Id: <p06002024bcbc63afac20(a)[10.0.1.2]> >In-Reply-To: <040501c43150$62c37d60$4001010a(a)cnfei.com> >References: <040501c43150$62c37d60$4001010a(a)cnfei.com> >Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 23:15:50 +0200 >To: "Sean Robertson" <webolutionary(a)webolutionary.com> >From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles(a)skynet.be> >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML? >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >X-Spam-Status: OK (lists-mailman 0.000) >Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >X-BeenThere: mailman-users(a)python.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users> >List-Post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> >List-Help: <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> >Sender: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org >Errors-To: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org > >At 4:51 PM -0400 2004/05/03, Sean Robertson wrote: > >> Is there any kind of email interface to >> MailMan's admin functions? > > There is an e-mail interface, some of which is highlighted by the >"List-" headers that Mailman puts on outgoing messages. If you send >the word "help" to the listname-request address, you should get back >a document that describes everything. > >> I can very easily generate an email with >> commands in it (already doing that to subscribe users), but I need >> access to some admin functions as well. Am I just SOL? > > Beyond the above, I'm not aware of any other e-mail or PHP interface. > >> This is becoming a more urgent matter with each passing day, so any >> assistance you could provide would be _greatly_ appreciated. Thanks. > > I didn't say anything earlier because I didn't have much useful to say. > >-- >Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles(a)skynet.be> > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. > > SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >

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Administrate list via HTML?
by Sean Robertson 03 May '04

03 May '04

I asked this question earlier, but I don't think I ever got a reply (can't seem to find it at any rate). The list I administrate is located on another server, which I do not have SSH access to. The problem, however, is that I need some way to administer the list that can be executed via a PHP script. Is there any kind of email interface to MailMan's admin functions? I can very easily generate an email with commands in it (already doing that to subscribe users), but I need access to some admin functions as well. Am I just SOL? This is becoming a more urgent matter with each passing day, so any assistance you could provide would be _greatly_ appreciated. Thanks. Sean Robertson webolutionary(a)webolutionary.com http://www.webolutionary.com http://www.tidewater4dean.com "You have the power to take back your country!" - Howard Dean - www.deanforamerica.com "Great is the glory, for the strife is hard." - William Wordsworth "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

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Uuencoding
by Listmom 03 May '04

03 May '04

Help. I need to prevent uuencoded files from getting sent out on my list. How do I do this?

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Using a different port number
by Chad M Stewart 03 May '04

03 May '04

I checked the FAQ, nothing. I searched google and came up with nothing helpful either. So what are the magic steps to make mailman work and be aware that it is running on a different port? If I put the port number in the URL by hand it works, but alas the URLs that get returned by listinfo or admin do not contain the port number. I am not on this list, so please include me in your replies. Thanks, Chad

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VERPing with Sendmail
by Jason Shouler 03 May '04

03 May '04

Has anyone had any success activating VERP with sendmail? As far as I can see it could be done but generating the 'aliases' file would be daunting to say the least! Or have I missed a far simpler approach? -- ============================= Jason Shouler DATAFLOW Tel/Fax : +44 (0)1202-722599 Mobile : +44 (0)7946-615718 www.data-flow.org.uk Linux integration specialists =============================

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Moving mailman lists from a server to another, probs.. help wanted
by Lars Schimmer 03 May '04

03 May '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! After getting mailman to work proper, I have to move the archive and the whole lists from the old server to the new one. I set up a new Debian server and the conf was all done, after that I scp all the /mailman/lists/* and /mailman/archive/* files to the new server, changed the owner to root:list on all (list is the mailman user). Finally I run /mailman/bin/arch on every mailinglist in the list dir. But after starting mailman daemon and visiting the /mailman/list site on http, there was NO list listet. What went wrong? What do I have to do more? Cya Lars - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Technische Universität Braunschweig, Institut für Computergraphik Tel.: +49 531 391-2109 E-Mail: schimmer(a)cg.cs.tu-bs.de PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAlkZTVguzrLh6DgMRAp7YAJ96IMQypGRzY9NIDeQ/sX7TBs8f/wCgn6t1 EnHJ/sSkKX/EnlXJbN4Xmjg= =tsO1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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logs/ permissions keep changing, running check_perms -f multiple times!
by David Ljung Madison 03 May '04

03 May '04

Someone please help! The files in logs/ keep getting their permissions screwed up. They're supposed to be group "mailman" - but they keep getting changed to list and then they're unwritable, and I get the "permission denied" traceback. Then I run check_perms -f and everything is fine, but I check a few days later and the ownership is broken again. I've tried compiling with other users and that didn't help. How can I keep this from happening? Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415 341-5555 ------------ "Preferred over shiny round objects 2-to-1" ------------------

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RE: How does Mailman compare with YahooGroups?
by prodos＠prodos.com 03 May '04

03 May '04

From: Prodos (Melbourne, Australia) To: Paul H Byerly Dear Paul, Good evening. [quoting an earlier message:] > >I wouldn't say that "HTML is not well supported". The built-in > >pipermail archiver isn't so great with HTML, but this can be > >remedied. Mailman itself does a pretty reasonable job with regards > >to the messages as they are actually sent out, considering just how > >difficult various programs make this process. [Paul:] > **Compared to YahooGroups** it's not well supported. > If you allow HTML the digests are a challenge for many e-mail programs. > There is apparently no way to strip the html and send plain text digests, > and selecting plain digest results in not getting some posts at all. It > would also be nice to be able to reject some attachments and still allow > html. > > None of this is to say I don't like or use Mailman - I'm simply > trying to give a comparison to Y!G. Thanks for those additional notes. Best Wishes, PRODOS http://prodos.com "The biggest, brainiest, blockbuster show on the planet!"

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