Mailman 3 May 2004 - Mailman-Users

Subscribe OK/ Doesn't Post [Imap-specific]
by Karl R. Balsmeier 03 May '04

03 May '04

I have a unique problem. Users operating squirrelmail[via imap] can subscribe to a list. But cannot post to it. They see the traffic, but when responding to a post, the replies never make it to the list. The same user can switch to Eudora/Ximian/Kmail[pop3d] and respond to a post, and see their reply, it makes it to the list just fine. I've read the logs in mailman, thinking smtp-failures log would have some answers, none found there or the other logs. I have also monitored traffic with my recv'ing MTA, it detects no mails coming from the web mail/squirrelmail submissions, but sees the complete pop3 sessions just fine. /etc/aliases looks fine: stupid-pet-tricks1: postmaster Any ideas on which logs I could trace an error out? It seems unique to imap clients, does anyone using Exim as their MM MTA suggest a look at transports/directors instead of Mailman itself? -krb

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirm Subscription Page
by Lloyd Tennison 02 May '04

02 May '04

Read the thread from this week that is titled: [Mailman-Users] Re: Keeping the Publich_HTML subscription page from popping up. It is in Public HTML pages on the main menu. ----- Original Message --------------- >Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [12.155.117.29]) > by spf4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D125153509 > for <lloyd_tennison(a)whoever.com>; Sun, 2 May 2004 20:15:58 +0000 (GMT) >Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) > id 1BKNPo-0006Te-WF; Sun, 02 May 2004 16:18:20 -0400 >Received: from sara.dreamhost.com ([66.33.193.59]) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BKNPl-0006Sj-5Q > for mailman-users(a)python.org; Sun, 02 May 2004 16:18:17 -0400 >Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c-24-5-39-74.client.comcast.net [24.5.39.74]) > by sara.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929E09F106 > for <mailman-users(a)python.org>; Sun, 2 May 2004 13:18:14 -0700 (PDT) >Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Message-Id: <97D11A98-9C51-11D8-9F71-000393D5652E(a)zzizzle.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >From: zzizzle.com <zzizzle(a)zzizzle.com> >Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:58:46 -0700 >X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) >X-Spam-Status: OK (lists-mailman 0.000) >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Confirm Subscription Page >X-BeenThere: mailman-users(a)python.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users> >List-Post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> >List-Help: <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> >Sender: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org >Errors-To: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org > >Anyone know how to edit the html of the "confirm subscription page?" I >see how to edit the html of the other four pages, but then it gives you >the standard, crappy-looking mailman page to confirm your subscription. > If you know the answer, please keep in mind i am not a programmer, and >just pretty much know html. Thanks! Jonathan www.zzizzle.com > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >

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Re: Keeping the Publich_HTML subscription page from popping up.
by Paul H Byerly 02 May '04

02 May '04

Alan Camuto wrote: >I'd like for the "subscription results" page not to pop up every time an >e-mail address is submitted, or for them to be directed to one of the other >pages on my server. How do I go about turning off the "subscription results" >Public Html page? Is there a tag I can add to keep it from happening? Copy subscribe.html from the templates to <prefix>/mailman/lists/<listname>/en (assuming English) and modify the html of that page as you like. You could even set up a meta or java redirect from that page to the one you want. <>< Paul

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Re: Extreme CPU usage..
by Paul H Byerly 02 May '04

02 May '04

On 05:57 AM 5/2/2004, mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: >I've noticed that at change of month when e-mail should be sent to all list >members (the password reminder) my CPU usage increases dramatically. > >Right now I can see that Python consumes 93.4% of the CPU time (checked in >top). Is that a sustained level, or a momentary peak? What processes are eating up the CPU? >Anyone with a qualified guess? Unless something is misconfigured or stuck it should not be Mailman. Try restarting Mailman (prefix/bin/mailmanctl restart) and see it that clears it. <>< Paul

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Confirm Subscription Page
by zzizzle.com 02 May '04

02 May '04

Anyone know how to edit the html of the "confirm subscription page?" I see how to edit the html of the other four pages, but then it gives you the standard, crappy-looking mailman page to confirm your subscription. If you know the answer, please keep in mind i am not a programmer, and just pretty much know html. Thanks! Jonathan www.zzizzle.com

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Re:(Mailman_Announce) Re:Mailman 2.1.5 release candidate 2
by ElzbVj＠aol.com 02 May '04

02 May '04

I was advised by Barry Warsaw to contact you . I am in need of help with my subscription to The _peterson_trial_ The Peterson Case Updates. I have been a subscriber since November 30, 2004. Because of illness I was unable to keep up with the correspondence. I did never the less, read daily news on my computer of the events from ModBee, and ABC NEWS. I also keep up with news on the LACI board. Since all this took place and changes have been made, I simply do not understand the procedures. I need point by point guidelines or whatever one does to learn to be able to recieve all the news regarding the trial and related issues. Can you give me advise. Barry also stated that there was an upgrade to be made which sounds like "greek" to me. sorry if I sound a little silly but it's quite involved! Whatever you do to help I will appreciate! Yours Truly, E.J. Vejar (LIZ) ElzbVj(a)aol.com

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Problem with subscription parsing?
by David Bourguignon 02 May '04

02 May '04

Hi all, I have a problem to register to mailing lists managed with gnu mailman. I think it comes from the way my free email provider writes the subject line content but I'm not sure. I copied below the email I sent to the gnu mailman server using the first "reply" method and the answer I got back from it. I did not use the second "single line in the message body" method because my email provider automatically adds a few extra lines at the end of my emails (advertisement for its ADSL internet service). Since this is not the first time this problem occurs to me, with different gnu mailman servers, I thought it might be of interest. If you need more information, please let me know. Thanks in advance for your help, David. ---------- Initial Header ----------- From : "David Bourguignon" <dmab(a)chez.com> To : "verse-dev-request" <verse-dev-request(a)blender.org> Cc : Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:32:53 +0200 Subject : Re:Verse-dev -- confirmation of subscription -- request 953790 ---------- Initial Header ----------- From : verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org To : dmab(a)chez.com Cc : Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:53:23 +0200 Subject : Verse-dev -- confirmation of subscription -- request 953790 Verse-dev -- confirmation of subscription -- request 953790 We have received a request from 193.253.216.98 for subscription of your email address, <dmab(a)chez.com>, to the verse-dev(a)blender.org mailing list. To confirm the request, please send a message to verse-dev-request(a)blender.org, and either: - maintain the subject line as is (the reply's additional "Re:" is ok), - or include the following line - and only the following line - in the message body: confirm 953790 (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right form.) If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard this message. Send questions to verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org. ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL. ---------- Initial Header ----------- From : verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org To : dmab(a)chez.com Cc : Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:37:00 +0200 Subject : Mailman results for Verse-dev This is an automated response. There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via the administrative address <verse-dev-request(a)blender.org>. To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to <verse-dev-request(a)blender.org> with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, please send your message to <verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org>. The following is a detailed description of the problems. >>>>> Subject line ignored: >>>>> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:Verse-dev_--_confirmation_of_subscription... Command? ---------- Initial Header -----------=0D=0A=0D=0AFrom ... Command? min(a)blender.org=0D=0ATo : dmab(a)chez.com=0D=0ACc ... Command? Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:53:23 +0200=0D=0ASubject :... Command? onfirmation of subscription -- request 953790=0D=0A=0D=0AV... >>>>> >>>>> Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored: > firmation of subscription -- request 953790=0D=0A=0D=0AWe have received a= > request from 193.253.216.98 for subscription of=0D=0Ayour email address,= > <dmab(a)chez.com>, to the verse-dev(a)blender.org=0D=0Amailing list. To con= > firm the request, please send a message to=0D=0Averse-dev-request@blender= > .org, and either:=0D=0A=0D=0A- maintain the subject line as is (the reply= > 's additional "Re:" is=0D=0Aok),=0D=0A=0D=0A- or include the following li= > ne - and only the following line - in the=0D=0Amessage body: =0D=0A=0D=0A= > confirm 953790=0D=0A=0D=0A(Simply sending a 'reply' to this message shoul= > d work from most email=0D=0Ainterfaces, since that usually leaves the sub= > ject line in the right=0D=0Aform.)=0D=0A=0D=0AIf you do not wish to subsc= > ribe to this list, please simply disregard=0D=0Athis message. Send quest= > ions to verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org.=0D=0A=0A=0A******ADSL Tiscali, le Ha= > ut d=E9bit au meilleur prix ******=0AAvec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au = > meilleur prix partout en France !=0APour profiter de cette offre exceptio= > nnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl=0ASous r=E9serve d'= > =E9ligibilit=E9 =E0 l'ADSL.=0A > > ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL.

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Extreme CPU usage..
by Anders Norrbring 02 May '04

02 May '04

I've noticed that at change of month when e-mail should be sent to all list members (the password reminder) my CPU usage increases dramatically. Right now I can see that Python consumes 93.4% of the CPU time (checked in top). My mailman is v2.1.2 and the list (one and only) has about 180 members. A wild guess would be that about 5% of these are invalid addresses. Anyone with a qualified guess? Anders.

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RE: How does Mailman compare with YahooGroups?
by Paul H Byerly 01 May '04

01 May '04

On 11:02 AM 4/28/2004, mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: >I wouldn't say that "HTML is not well supported". The built-in >pipermail archiver isn't so great with HTML, but this can be >remedied. Mailman itself does a pretty reasonable job with regards >to the messages as they are actually sent out, considering just how >difficult various programs make this process. **Compared to YahooGroups** it's not well supported. If you allow HTML the digests are a challenge for many e-mail programs. There is apparently no way to strip the html and send plain text digests, and selecting plain digest results in not getting some posts at all. It would also be nice to be able to reject some attachments and still allow html. None of this is to say I don't like or use Mailman - I'm simply trying to give a comparison to Y!G. <>< Paul

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can not reply to mailman list (More Info)
by Lesley Jones 01 May '04

01 May '04

I am pretty new to setting mailman and postfix up, so I appreciate the help! Yes, I can send from the root address and receive email to it just by the local machine and not using mailman. Only not from that one email address. I can't send to the list or to the local root account from this one email server yet it will receive from mailman, and I have tried multiple accounts on this same email system, so it isn't just one account being bounced. All other email accounts I have tried work beautifully, can send and receive from the local root account and any mailman list I create. My main.cf for postfix if it is of any help....: 2bounce_notice_recipient = postmaster access_map_reject_code = 554 alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases alias_maps = hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases allow_mail_to_commands = alias,forward allow_mail_to_files = alias,forward allow_min_user = no allow_percent_hack = yes allow_untrusted_routing = no alternate_config_directories = always_bcc = append_at_myorigin = yes append_dot_mydomain = yes best_mx_transport = biff = yes body_checks = bounce_notice_recipient = postmaster bounce_size_limit = 50000 broken_sasl_auth_clients = no canonical_maps = command_directory = /usr/sbin command_expansion_filter = 1234567890!@%-_=+:,./abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ command_time_limit = 1000s config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix daemon_timeout = 18000s debug_peer_level = 2 debug_peer_list = default_database_type = hash default_delivery_slot_cost = 5 default_delivery_slot_discount = 50 default_delivery_slot_loan = 3 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10 default_destination_recipient_limit = 50 default_extra_recipient_limit = 1000 default_minimum_delivery_slots = 3 default_privs = nobody default_process_limit = 50 default_recipient_limit = 10000 default_transport = smtp default_verp_delimiters = += defer_transports = delay_notice_recipient = postmaster delay_warning_time = 0h deliver_lock_attempts = 20 deliver_lock_delay = 1s disable_dns_lookups = no disable_verp_bounces = no disable_vrfy_command = no dont_remove = 0 double_bounce_sender = double-bounce duplicate_filter_limit = 1000 empty_address_recipient = MAILER-DAEMON error_notice_recipient = postmaster expand_owner_alias = no export_environment = TZ MAIL_CONFIG extract_recipient_limit = 10240 fallback_relay = fallback_transport = fast_flush_domains = $relay_domains fast_flush_purge_time = 7d fast_flush_refresh_time = 12h fault_injection_code = 0 fork_attempts = 5 Again, thanks for the help!!! Lesley >>> Paul Tomblin <ptomblin(a)xcski.com> 4/30/2004 7:29:50 AM >>> Quoting Lesley Jones (Lesley.Jones(a)linnbenton.edu): > The mail sent is bounced back to the sender with > > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > > Does this help? I have looked for an answer to this but can not find > one. Sounds like an MTA problem, not a mailman problem. Can you just send normal mail to/from that machine? -- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin(a)xcski.com> http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "Look! This trout makes a better hammer than that blob of marmalade!" - Adam J. Thornton ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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