Mailman 3 September 2005 - Mailman-Users

Mailman + Sendmail
by Rich West Sept. 14, 2005

Sept. 14, 2005

I've had mailman running for years and have only recently started having some delivery problems with it. I originally chalked it up to a particular set of users within the one list that I am on (we host a bunch of lists for others), but, after some investigation, I have been unable to narrow down the source of the problem. Essentially, we have users A, B, C, and D. A&B have accounts local to the mailman/mail server and C&D have accounts elsewhere. Now, when any user emails to the list, mailman receives the message, then spawns off 4 (right now, I have "nodupes" deselected for everyone) messages in the sendmail queue. If sendmail had just recently been started (aka: within the past 5 minutes), the message will go through just fine. However, in most cases, the messages (all with the same message ID) hang in the queue forever.. or, at least, until sendmail gets restarted at which time all of the messages get delivered. At this point, one would say "It's sendmail", as did I. I dug, and dug, but could not repeat the scenario without mailman in the loop. I could send email to each user directly, I could create an alias called 'test' with each of the users in the alias, and then have any one of them mail to "test" to have it successfully send that out to everyone. I looked in the logs on mailman, and saw nothing out of the ordinary. I'm pretty much at a loss as to where else to turn. I tried deleting the list and re-adding it, I tried deleting the list and creating one under a different name.. I tried upgrading to Mailman 2.1.6. So far, everything is consistent. I was thinking of trying to set mailman to send only one message per connection or something just to see if the other messages would process and just leave the hanging ones out there (not sure how to set this, though). I searched the archives, too, but didn't have much luck there as I was not sure how to narrow down the search enough (I couldn't come up with good search terms). Any ideas/help/pointers would be much appreciated! Thanks! -Rich

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Complettly delete unused mailing lists
by Elvis Fernandes Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

Hello, I want to delete off a few old mailing lists. I read the instructions at: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.031.htp On checking, I did not the variable OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS in the /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file. Is there a simple way to delete off the old mail lists. I do not need to archive any data from these old lists. Thanks Elvis

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How to make attached jpg show in message body
by Bill Morse Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

Is there any way to make an image show in the body of a message to the list. When I attach an image in entourage, the image displays in the body of the message. When I attach an image to a list message, it only is listed in the attachments area. Thanks Bill Morse Wm. Morse Editions 450 Harrison Ave. Studio 227 Boston, MA 02118 (617) 429-3298 www.MorseEditions.com PS- Please note new email and web address

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman with MHonArc
by jaf19 Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

To me, the problem with Pipermail is not what it does, but what it doesn't do. Pipermail doesn't allow you to reverse the order of the postings, so readers have to scroll to the bottom of what is, in many cases, a large archive, doesn't show the name of the person posting, and doesn't date or date sort the entries. I too am looking at MhonArc as a possible solution, to work in tandem with Mailman, but am not proficient enough to install or configure. I'd like to hire someone for the task, if that is possible? JF On 9/13/05, Brad Knowles <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> wrote: > > At 2:59 PM -0700 2005-09-12, Elvis Fernandes wrote: > > > I am trying to setup a discussion archival system, where the discussion > > between users in a mail-list can be browsed on a webpage. > > On searching the web, it seems like MhonArc can do this. > > Mailman includes a built-in web archive system called Pipermail. > Depending on precisely what you need, this may provide all the > functionality you require, without needing an external third-party > archiving solution. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania > Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 > > SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jaf19%40earthlink.net > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > -- Jim Flanagan

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patch to add date to each meassge in mail archive Index
by Matt Ryanczak Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

I was asked to make the date for each message in a mailman archive be visible in the index for that month. This required that I modify HyperArch.py and the template file archidxentry.html. I thought others might find this useful so here are the relevant patches for the mailman-2.1.6 source tree. I apologize if this is a duplication of someone else efforts, I searched around and could not find a way to do this in mailman as it was or a patch to do the same. Regards, -- Matt Ryanczak American Registry for Internet Numbers Lead System Administrator Apply the following patches to your mailman source tree and setup as usual. You should be able to patch a live copy of mailman without issue though you will have to modify the patch files according to the prefix mailman is installed in. If you patch a live mailman install you'll have to run "$PREFIX/bin/arch --wipe $LISTNAME" for each list hosted by that mailman installation. --- HyperArch.py 2005-09-12 11:29:44.000000000 -0400 +++ mailman-2.1.6/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py 2005-05-13 07:35:37.000000000 -0400 @@ -1024,7 +1024,6 @@ def write_index_entry(self, article): subject = self.get_header("subject", article) author = self.get_header("author", article) - datestr = self.get_header("datestr", article) if mm_cfg.ARCHIVER_OBSCURES_EMAILADDRS: try: author = re.sub('@', _(' at '), author) @@ -1033,14 +1032,12 @@ pass subject = CGIescape(subject, self.lang) author = CGIescape(author, self.lang) - datestr = CGIescape(datestr, self.lang) d = { 'filename': urllib.quote(article.filename), 'subject': subject, 'sequence': article.sequence, - 'author': author, - 'datestr': datestr + 'author': author } print quick_maketext( 'archidxentry.html', d, --- archidxentry.html 2005-09-12 11:34:59.000000000 -0400 +++ /home/ryanczak/src/mailman-2.1.6/templates/en/archidxentry.html 2002-10-08 12:50:41.000000000 -0400 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -<LI> %(datestr)s  <A HREF="%(filename)s">%(subject)s +<LI><A HREF="%(filename)s">%(subject)s </A><A NAME="%(sequence)i"> </A> <I>%(author)s </I>

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Help with Passord protecting Mail List
by George Payne Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

I have used Imail for a number of years. I can't find where it tells how the moderator uses their password to send and email. Can you please help? George Payne Write Hand Publishing 105 Willow Drive Andalusia, AL 36421 334 222-9212 <mailto:webmail@writehand.com> webmail(a)writehand.com <file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\georgepayne\Application%20Data\Micros oft\Signatures\www.writehand.com> www.writehand.com

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htdig integration broken after upgrade
by Odhiambo Washington Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

Hello users, I have searched the archives for this one and I did not get any answers that would help my situation, though I did get some clues.. I recently upgraded a 2.1.3 install to 2.1.5 (along with htdig-2.1.5-0.1.patch and indexing-2.1.5-0.1.patch) and now htdig/archive searches are failing for the following error: <quote> search failed -12- If you want to make another attempt to access a list archive then go via the list users information page. If this problem persists then please e-mail the following information to the mailman _at_ ns2.wananchi.com: http://ns2.wananchi.com/pipermail/list8/ /mailman/mmsearch/list8 </quote> Looking at /usr/local/mailman/logs/error, this is what I see: Sep 11 11:50:12 2005 (75197) htsearch for list: list8, existatus: 127 Sep 11 11:50:12 2005 (75197) htsearch for list: list8, cause: htsearch, detail: -12- Sep 11 15:41:51 2005 (25558) htsearch for list: , cause: info, detail: No list -2- Sep 11 16:04:28 2005 (52409) htsearch for list: list1, existatus: 127 Sep 11 16:04:28 2005 (52409) htsearch for list: list1, cause: htsearch, detail: -12- After consulting the big brain, I did look at my mm_cfg.py and realized that some paths needed correction with respect to Defaults.py where I found out that certain variables used previously for HTDIG* were nolonger in use. After the fixes, and after running the nightly_htdig script again as the mailman user, searching the archives now gives a different error: ht://Dig error Unable to read document index file Did you run htmerge? ..and in the ~mailman/logs/error, I see this now: Sep 11 16:42:57 2005 (23110) htsearch for list: theteam, existatus: 1 At this point, I am surely an my /etc (end of thinking capaity) on this problem. It's shifted goalpoasts ;) I'll appreciate your help in resolving this. cheers - wash +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Odhiambo Washington . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | wash () WANANCHI ! com . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | GSM: (+254) 733 744 121 . (+254) 020 313 985 - 9 | +---------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post

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Mailman with MHonArc
by Elvis Fernandes Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

Hello, I am trying to setup a discussion archival system, where the discussion between users in a mail-list can be browsed on a webpage. On searching the web, it seems like MhonArc can do this. I have setup mailman, and can access the mail-lists using a browser. It seems that mailman is POP, and hence there is no inbox. Is that correct, or could someone tell me where is the file containing all the emails for a mail-list? Does anyone know if this mailman-MhonArc combination will work? Thanks Elvis Fernandes

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subscribe silently fails to moderated list
by Matt Doughty Sept. 13, 2005

Sept. 13, 2005

I have a list where subscription fails if you use the email subscription interface. The list is moderated, but nothing shows up in the logs after the initial inject in the sendmail logs. There is nothing in vette or subscribe, the request just disappears into the ether. -- --Matt

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Help with Qmail
by Fabricio Vargas Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

HI I have qmail with Centos 3.5, I am trying to install mailman 2.1.6, but when i send a mail i get this error: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ns.asoban.bo. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <lista3(a)mydomain.bo>: vdeliver: Invalid or unknown virtual user 'lista3' I followed the guide "GNU - Mailman" and this is my configuration in Defaults.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ns.mydomain.bo' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'ns.mydomain.bo' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' in mm_cfg.py add_virtualhost('www.mydomain.bo','mydomain.bo') I create the list whit this command ./newlist --urlhost=www.mydomain.bo --emailhost=mydomain.bo lista3 and add the following to /etc/aliasses ## lista3 mailing list lista3: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post lista3" lista3-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin lista3" lista3-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces lista3" lista3-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm lista3" lista3-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join lista3" lista3-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave lista3" lista3-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner lista3" lista3-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request lista3" lista3-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe lista3" lista3-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe lista3" Could anyone help me to identified where is the problem? Thank you Fabricio Vargas

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