Mailman 3 September 2005 - Mailman-Users

Mailing List Config
by Sujay Thomas Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

This might be a rather simple solution but I can't seem to figure it out. I've set up a Mailman mailing list on my website and I want it to do just a few things: 1. Subscribers send mail to the mailing list address. 2. Everyone in the mailing list gets this message. 3. Any replies made to the messages get sent to everyone as well. Right now it doesn't do this and I can't seem to figure out how to set it up that way. It can be done, right? Thank you. -- Sujay Thomas sujayt(a)gmail.com www.isujay.com <http://www.isujay.com>

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mailman stopped working after upgrade
by Daevid Vincent Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

Mailman was working, then a (Gentoo) 'emerge -Davu system' update happened the other day and looks like it broke mailman. daevid portage-logs # ll *mailman* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62662 Sep 7 11:34 3485-mailman-2.1.5-r4.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1105 Sep 7 11:34 3486-mailman-2.1.5-r4.log Sep 12 12:16:19 [Mailman mail-wrapper] Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail_wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but_the system's mail server executed the mail script as_group "mail". Try tweaking the mail server to run the_script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, _providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'._ Sep 12 12:16:19 [exim] 2005-09-12 12:16:19 1EEtms-00021M-60 ** |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post rbc <rbc(a)daevid.com> R=system_aliases T=address_pipe: Child process of address_pipe transport returned 2 from command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman daevid bin # locate mail_wrapper daevid bin # locate as_group daevid portage-logs # ll /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman mailman 7768 Sep 7 11:34 /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman daevid bin # ll total 372 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Sep 7 11:34 . drwxrwsr-x 20 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 4 13:52 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 7612 Sep 7 11:34 add_members -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 5406 Sep 7 11:34 arch -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 3748 Sep 7 11:34 auto -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2559 Sep 7 11:34 b4b5-archfix -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 6130 Sep 7 11:34 change_pw -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 4264 Sep 7 11:34 check_db -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 12223 Sep 7 11:34 check_perms -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 6632 Sep 7 11:34 check_perms_grsecurity.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 5492 Sep 7 11:34 cleanarch -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 6409 Sep 7 11:34 clone_member -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 12326 Sep 7 11:34 config_list -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 1499 Sep 7 11:34 convert.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 3238 Sep 7 11:34 discard -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 4399 Sep 7 11:34 dumpdb -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 4951 Sep 7 11:34 find_member -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2633 Sep 7 11:34 fix_url.py -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 2497 Apr 4 13:52 fix_url.pyc -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 3097 Sep 7 11:34 genaliases -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2815 Sep 7 11:34 inject -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2561 Sep 7 11:34 list_admins -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 3329 Sep 7 11:34 list_lists -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 8316 Sep 7 11:34 list_members -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 3165 Sep 7 11:34 list_owners -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 21124 Sep 7 11:34 mailmanctl -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 18995 Sep 7 11:34 majordomo2mailman.pl -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 5951 Sep 7 11:34 mm-handler -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 7048 Sep 7 11:34 mm-handler.readme -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2989 Sep 7 11:34 mmsitepass -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 5530 Sep 7 11:34 msgfmt.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 7127 Sep 7 11:34 newlist -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 2412 Sep 7 11:34 paths.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 652 Sep 7 11:34 paths.pyc -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 4076 Sep 7 11:34 qmail-to-mailman.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 9196 Sep 7 11:34 qrunner -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2957 Sep 7 11:34 rb-archfix -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 4699 Sep 7 11:34 remove_members -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 4256 Sep 7 11:34 rmlist -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 3463 Sep 7 11:34 rotatelogs.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 1346 Sep 7 11:34 show_qfiles -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 9664 Sep 7 11:34 sync_members -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 11999 Sep 7 11:34 transcheck -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 2286 Sep 7 11:34 unshunt -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 29648 Sep 7 11:34 update -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 963 Sep 7 11:34 version -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman 8382 Sep 7 11:34 withlist daevid portage-logs # more 3486-mailman-2.1.5-r4.log No updates are necessary. * Running `/usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f` * /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/options must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/private must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/rmlist must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/roster must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/subscribe must be set-gid (fixing) /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman must be set-gid (fixing) Problems found: 12 Re-run as mailman (or root) with -f flag to fix * * Please read /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.5-r4/README.gentoo.gz for additional * Setup information, mailman will NOT run unless you follow * those instructions! * daevid portage-logs # /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found I read the README, but I've already been using mailman, it doesn't mention anything about upgrading. daevid bin # ./check_db Nothing to do.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] patch to add date to each meassge in mail archiveIndex
by Andrew Smith Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

I was looking for a solution to put the date available in the archives. I have completed the patch as described and get an error when I rebuild my archives - - - File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1005, in write_index_entry datestr = self.get_header("datestr", article) File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1027, in get_header return getattr(article, field) AttributeError: Article instance has no attribute 'datestr' - - - Anyone able to help me with this? --- Andrew Smith Web Developer Tyndale University College & Seminary 416-226-6620 (2714) -- asmith(a)tyndale.ca http://www.tyndale.ca http://www.tyndale.ca/it http://www.tyndale.ca/~asmith -- 25 Ballyconnor Court Toronto, Ontario. M2M 4B3 -- Tyndale's Mission is "to educate and equip Christians to serve the world with passion for Jesus Christ." --- >>> Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> 9/12/2005 2:06:52 PM >>> Matt Ryanczak wrote: >I was asked to make the date for each message in a mailman archive be >visible in the index for that month. This required that I modify >HyperArch.py and the template file archidxentry.html. I thought others >might find this useful so here are the relevant patches for the >mailman-2.1.6 source tree. > >I apologize if this is a duplication of someone else efforts, I searched >around and could not find a way to do this in mailman as it was or a >patch to do the same. Thanks for developing this patch. It would help for tracking and possible adoption into the base if you would submit it to the Mailman patch tracker at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=300103 You might also add a note to the RFE at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=843141&group_id=10… -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/asmith%40tyndale.ca Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp

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Mail List Password
by Phil Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

I have forgotten the password to one of my mail lists. For the life of me I can't seem to find a way to reset the password. Any help? The control panel would be Plesk 7

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Complaints about MM 2.1.6b4
by Darren G Pifer Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

Hello, We had a few complaints from one of our list admins about the new version of mailman 2.1.6b4 we upgraded to in June. The previous version of mailman was version 2.0.13. I can not imagine that any features were removed between versions, however, they may have been moved. I am still getting familiar with the new mailman but do not know everything the new version has. If someone has come across these of these issues, please reply. Here are the issues the list admin raised: Our list serves are moderated - so the faculty cannot send something to the list without our approval. The lists are for "us" to notify about classroom issues. The old system had a box to enter addresses for all people who can post to the list without administrator approval. We were able to "copy and paste" the same list into each list serve. The "box" does not exist in the new system. The new system has a "check-box". For each person in our "copy and paste" list we have to "uncheck" the MOD box. You can make the MOD box default to checked or not-checked. So we either have to "check" each faculty member or "uncheck" all of us. In the new system there is a box that allows you to grant "non-moderated" access to email addresses who are NOT members of the list. So to try and FIX the problem, we entered Classroom(a)odu.edu as a "non-member" to this box - in EVERY List Serve, so we could post to the list serves from this address - and not have to manually go to every list serve and uncheck the box for everyone who can post to the list without administrator approval. The newest problem is: Because Classroom is a shared email account, it shows the "real sender" - who is a member of the list with a check-mark in the MOD box, so it holds the email and waits for administrator approval. So - we'll make one more pass through 50+ listserves and remove the check box for 8-10 members. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= end of list admin issues Darren Old Dominion University

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Fwd: GMAIL
by Bryan Carbonnell Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

Whoops, should have sentthis to the list as well. Bryan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb(a)gmail.com> Date: 09-Sep-2005 14:00 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] GMAIL To: scot condry <scotcondry(a)hotmail.com> On 09/09/05, scot condry <scotcondry(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Sorry if this is a repeat I havent been able to find a definitive answer on > this through Google so I just joined this list. Does Mailman have issues > with GMAIL? I am hosting two lists and when I send an email to the list > from GMAIL it makes it to the archives on the list's web interface but never > mails out to everyone. Emails from hotmail or other accounts seem to work > fine. I run about 20 list with mailman and use my GMAIL account all the time with them. I can send to the lists and receive from the lists with my GMail account. This is coming from my GMail account too. What you might be seeing is Google doesn't show you the incoming e-mail that you send from GMail to the mailman list, but it is going out to the rest. I *won't* see this e-mail coming back from the list in my GMail, but I *will* see it with my home e-mail address. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb(a)gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb(a)gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!"

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Uncaught runner exception: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 1-4: invalid data
by Aliet Santiesteban Sifontes Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

Hi list, I'm running mailman for several lists on debian sarge, mailman-2.1.5-8, suddenly one of of the lists stops working, maybe by spam or dos attack using a bug in mailman, here the error, any ideas on how ti fix this??: Sep 11 13:34:35 2005 (12535) Uncaught runner exception: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 1-4: invalid data Sep 11 13:34:35 2005 (12535) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 265, in process url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 361, in save_attachment fnext = os.path.splitext(msg.get_filename(''))[1] File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py", line 731, in get_filename return unicode(newvalue[2], newvalue[0] or 'us-ascii') UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 1-4: invalid data Sep 11 13:34:35 2005 (12535) SHUNTING: 1126458561.9029009+2ca02ecc54d36f4e0a88a7ab17fc28736bd23635 ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Watch the Hurricane Katrina Shelter From The Storm concert http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/shelter

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Cron jobs on Tiger Server
by David Scribner Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

Somehow since the beginning of the month none of my Mailman cron jobs are running correctly. The mailpasswds cron job ran on the 1st of the month but since then none of the jobs like "senddigests" or the daily reminders of pending administrative notices have been running. I don't know what is causing this. I did not make any changes to the set-up of Mailman except for adding several new mailing lists. Digests have been sent at odd times, none of which have made any sense to me since they are not going out at the appointed time or because they have reached the set size to be sent. I have checked the permissions and as far as I can se they are all OK so I'm not sure where to look to find the problem. Below is a listing of the Mailman cron jobs showing the permissions if that might help any of you to help me figure this out. Thanks David Scribner BI Consulting ************************************************* lists2:/usr/share/mailman administrator$ ls Mailman cron messages templates bin icons pythonlib tests cgi-bin mail scripts lists2:/usr/share/mailman administrator$ cd cron lists2:/usr/share/mailman/cron administrator$ ls bumpdigests crontab.in gate_news nightly_gzip paths.pyc checkdbs disabled mailpasswds paths.py senddigests lists2:/usr/share/mailman/cron administrator$ ls -al total 144 drwxrwsr-x 12 root mailman 408 Jul 30 16:15 . drwxrwsr-x 13 root mailman 442 Mar 20 17:17 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 2374 Mar 20 17:17 bumpdigests -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 5930 Mar 20 17:17 checkdbs -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1261 Mar 20 17:17 crontab.in -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 8238 Mar 20 17:17 disabled -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 10170 Mar 20 17:17 gate_news -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 9065 Mar 20 17:17 mailpasswds -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 4376 Mar 20 17:17 nightly_gzip -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 2412 Mar 20 17:17 paths.py -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 653 Jul 30 16:15 paths.pyc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 2363 Mar 20 17:17 senddigests

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Hello & Question about compile error under OS X 10.4.2
by Jakko Westerbeke Sept. 12, 2005

Sept. 12, 2005

Hello, My first post to this list, so first up I want to say "Hi" to everyone here :) But: I wouldn't have joined this list if I didn't have a problem with Mailman that I can't figure out the solution to ... I'm trying to set up Mailman 2.1.6 on a Mac running OS X 10.4.2, with Apple's default installation of Python 2.3.5. The system is pretty much clean out of the box (literally) and has Apple's developer tools installed in order to get gcc. Anyway, the problem is that I get an error during the "make install" phase of installation, to be precise: Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 46, in ? import paths File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py", line 55, in ? import japanese ImportError: No module named japanese make: *** [update] Error 1 "./configure" and "make" both work without errors, but things stop at this point during "make install" every time. I've traced this back to the installation of the Japanese codecs that are supplied with Mailman, because these refuse to install as well -- both when trying to make Mailman itself, and when trying to install the codec separately using the instructions provided with it. Is there a quick fix that I can't see? FWIW, I couldn't care less about Japanese codecs due to the fact that I don't speak Japanese and seriously don't expect to ever run a Japanese-language list, which makes it annoying that I can't find a way to simply skip this whole step ... It also reminds me of one of the reasons why I stopped using Linux ;) Any solutions would be very much appreciated :) -- Jakko Westerbeke <jakko(a)xs4all.nl> http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/afv

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Your membership in the mailing list XYZ has been disabled due to excessive bounces
by James Sept. 11, 2005

Sept. 11, 2005

I got unsubscribed from my own list because of "Your membership in the mailing list XYZ has been disabled due to excessive bounces". I don't get it. I didn't send any emails to the list so how could there be any 'excessive bounces'. Two questions: 1) Why am I getting this message? 2) Is there any way to prevent and/or protect the list from this happening again? TIA.

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