Mailman 3 September 2005 - Mailman-Users

Hiding footer message?
by Trevor Cullingsworth Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

Hi all, I am running mailman 2.1.4 on a SUSE linux Enterprsie 9.0 server and I can;t find any option to hide the footer message that is on each mailing list message. It looks like by default the footer is the list name, the list address, and the URL. Is there a way to hide this? I do not want any info showing up in the footer. I saw there was an option to make a custom footer for digest messages and this overrides the default. Does this option cover normal messages? I am not creating any digests. Thank you. Trevor Cullingsworth

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MS entourage smart quotes
by Sean Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

Hi, Has anyone using mailman 2.1.x experienced problems with MS smart quotes not rending correctly in list posts? I've got a list user using Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2418. Any apostrophes show up as a 1 like so: "the city that really ruled everything. Kel¹s company paid" Thanks, Sean

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Digest "flag" in membership list? ...
by Jason LaMar Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

A disclaimer: I realize our implementation is not at all what was intended for "typical" Mailman usage, but ... We have lists where: * the subscribers don't know their individual passwords for Web access * the subscribers don't have Web access to Mailman subscription features * we (the admins) manually control whether subscribers get to use digest mode, based on their e-mail requests The lists are set up this way because this is the main "campus-wide alert/announcement system" for e-mail, so we want to guarantee that everyone is SUPPOSED to get every message sent to these lists. OK, so here's the kicker. Based on a somewhat transient user population (we regularly lose and add a small fraction of students, and sometimes even employees), we've developed an external script to regularly cross-check the current subscriber list and then update it with subscriber additions and removals as necessary. Unfortunately, when the lists are "refreshed," all individual subscriber parameters (like digest mode) are wiped out to their defaults. So my question is: Is there some sort of flag associated with each subscriber entry that indicates digest usage, that we should be sure not to touch during the list refresh? Or, to put it more broadly, how would you suggest doing backend (non-subscriber) list maintenance that doesn't impact individual subscriber preferences? Thanks, Jason _________________________ Jason LaMar Interim Director of Information Services Libraries and Information Services Ohio Wesleyan University; Delaware, OH 43015 Tel: 740-368-3131, Fax: 740-368-3272, Web: http://www.owu.edu/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Users off list] New mailman user
by Andrew Steele Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

On 6 Sep 2005 at 18:49, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I think if you just remove the setgid bit from the wrappers in cgi-bin, > your web interface will work again. This will not solve the original > problem which I think is a Mailman/Exim integration issue. Hi Mark, I really appreciate your continued advice to a mailman novice. I ran chmod =rwx,g-s * in the mailman/cgi-bin directory then chmod 775 * but this made no difference to the web interface - still generating the error so presumably the suexec is still relevant. Interestingly if I run, for example, the admin wrapper from the shell all the HTML is displayed on the shell screen. Most frustrating! Andrew

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Mail debug question
by Elvis Fernandes Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

Hello, I am new to mailman, and having installed mailman on solaris I am testing it out now. Here is what I am doing: (1) Test a mail-list. I created a mail-list unix_sysadmin, and from my mail, I send out a test email to unix_sysadmin@hostname The hostname is the solaris host where I have setup mailman, and my email is the only account in the unux_sysadmin list now. I do not receive this test email. (2) Tested email from mailman host I send out a test email from root to my email, and I received that. So, what am I missing here? Is there a way to debug? Thanks Elvis Fernandes

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Sending in Batch
by Jim Null Sept. 6, 2005

Sept. 6, 2005

My host only allows 200 emails per hours and 50 emails in five minutes to go out. We have 97 members on one list that is growing. Does Mailman offer a timed-batch feature that I can set to send out emails over a period of time that won't violate my hosts policies? --------------------------------- Jim Null Telephone: 903.236.0547 Email: jim(a)jimnull.com or info(a)longviewnet.com Visit our web sites at: www.jimnull.com <http://www.jimnull.com/> or www.longviewnet.com <http://www.longviewnet.com/> Or, contact me on MSN Messenger as jim(a)jimnull.com La Vida de Esperanza... I Peter <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=67&chapter=1&verse=3&version=3 1&context=verse> 1:3

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Webinterface not changing values
by Andreas Rittershofer Sept. 6, 2005

Sept. 6, 2005

In Debian I made recently a dist-upgrade and got Mailman 2.1.5. Everything is running fine except the web interface: it shows all pages but I cannt change any value and cannot figure out the reason. Any help is aprreciated! mfg ar -- E-Learning in der Schule: http://www.dbg-metzingen.de/Menschen/Lehrer/Q-T/Rittershofer/E-Learning/

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New mailman user
by Andrew Steele Sept. 6, 2005

Sept. 6, 2005

I'm a new Mailman user. I've just had my ISP install Mailman for me. They created a test list and this appears to work just fine. I've now created the first list for myself using the web browser interface. On sending a test message I receive a copy of the message - I am the list owner AND also subscribed to the list. The other addresses which are subscribed are not receiving the test messages. Each of the subscribed addresses did receive a welcome message. Also, in the list set-up I left the setting for RFC 2369 List-* headers to YES but they do not appear in the message header I receive neither is the Subject line prefix appearing in the received message. The mailer at the ISP is Exim 4.43. If anyone could suggest a route for finding out what I've done wrong or what settings need to be changed that would be really helpful. Thanks in advance - especially if I'm asking a dumb question... Thanks Andrew Steele

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation
by lkolchin＠univ.haifa.ac.il Sept. 4, 2005

Sept. 4, 2005

Hi, In case your MTA is Postfix do as follows: After installing mailman via YaST or with .rpm package (with all the dependencies) we go to - CONFIGURING MAILMAN: 1) To check if the permissions on mailman files are right, run /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f 2) a) In the Apache: vi /etc/apache2/default-server.conf (add these lines): ################## ## ## mailman ## ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/" <Directory "/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ "/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/" <Directory "/var/lib/mailman/archives/public"> AddDefaultCharset Off Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> # Redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page (recommended) RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://myserver.haifa.ac.il/mailman/listinfo ## ## end mailman ## ################## b) cp /usr/lib/mailman/icons/* /usr/share/apache2/icons/ c) vi /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (make sure this line is like this): IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/' 3) vi /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (add this line if not already there, it is sitewide list): MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman' 4) a) vi /etc/postfix/main.cf (make sure this line looks like this): alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases Note: you may also add thes lines to main.cf (I've added): # Mailman stuff # owner_request_special = no recipient_delimiter = + # End of Mailman stuff b)Initialize aliases file: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases c) chown mailman:mailman /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases* 6) install python-xml to solve cgi-script "low level failure" (this is SuSE specific problem): Note: What seems to be common here is the occurance on SUSE. In my search for a solution I found that this occurs with on auto-update on Suse - patch 10 for mailman 2.1.4 to be exact. See: http://www.novell.com/linux/download/updates/91_i386.html What's interesting is that this patch can be installed without a dependency: python-xml. So, if you are encoutering this problem, the likely problem is that you are missing a dependency, and the solution is drop-dead easy: Just install python-xml 5) Now create widesite list # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist mailman admin(a)comp.ac.il 6) Configure widesite list: # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -i /var/lib/mailman/data/sitelist.cfg mailman 7) Set up cron: # /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab -u mailman crontab.in 8) Now start it and go to the web interface to check it: # insserv mailman # /etc/init.d/mailman start 9) # vi /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (Edit the following line to correspond with your mail domain, if it is OK skip this step and step number 10): DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'myserver.haifa.ac.il' 10) To fix the URL of any existing list run (for example for mailman list): # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url mailman 11) Create 'site password': # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepass secret 12) Create 'list creator' password: # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepass -c secret2 13) Create your first mailing list, and enjoy. Best Regards, Leon Kolchinsky -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+lkolchin=univ.haifa.ac.il(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+lkolchin=univ.haifa.ac.il@python.org] On Behalf Of Mohammad Moghimi Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:33 PM To: Mailman-Users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation Hi I'm using SuSE Linux Professional 9.3. Is there any howto or documetation for installing mailman in SuSE.? As you know MailMan is in default packages of SuSE 9.3. -- Mohammad do you Python?!! ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lkolchin%40univ.haifa.… Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp

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Just getting started....
by Seeney, Tim Sept. 4, 2005

Sept. 4, 2005

I could use a little help here..so anything would be appreciated. The ISP for a client I am doing some web work for told me they use Mailman. I downloaded the install file locally onto my machine. When I go to the clients' "lists" admin site (as told to by the ISP Help Desk), it states there are no email lists created - this stands to reason as no one has ever created a list for this user yet. After I downloaded the install files for mailman locally, I am unsure what to do next - do I upload all the files from the local folder to the website and start that way or do I create the lists from the files on my local machine? Also, I've been reading many of the install info..and it appears I have to create a local group and user for customizing the lists, etc...is this true? Finally, I see people are referring to the "web interface" to create the email lists - what file under which folder do you launch to do this, and do you do this locally or after you upload the files to the website? Obviously, I'm a little confused so a little help would be greatly appreciated - even a point in the right direction would be appreciated..as a step by step guide I find the guide provided by the makers a little..lacking. Maybe I'm reading the wrong document though. Thanks, Tim

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