Mailman 3 February 2008 - Mailman-Users

how to make use of Notebook
by ganesh gajre 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hello , Iwant to know that how i can make a notebook of classes from different file. Like, I have written two class as python Script Main.py and Start.py. Start is my first form and Main is second . How to add both in one class using Notebook widget of PYGTK so whent Next button is clicked it will open Main form. Kindly give me reply.

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(no subject)
by ganesh gajre 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

hello sir. I like to subsribe mailman.

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How to change to new hostname?
by lists.mailman-users＠duinheks.xs4all.nl 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hallo mailman-users, My system will get a different hostname soon. How can I tell mailman that it has a new hostname? Groeten, Hans. jdh punt beekhuizen bij duinheks punt xs4all punt nl --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5/080211 * Origin: The Wizard is using MBSE/Linux (2:280/1018)

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improper shutdown causes mailman not to start?
by Zbigniew Szalbot 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hello, I rebooted my machine today and mailman wouldn't start. Feb 27 06:46:56 2008 mailmanctl(692): The master qrunner lock could not be acquired. It appears as though there is a stale master qrunner lock. Try re-running mailmanctl with the -s flag. Now could the reason be that mailman startup script did not have the -s flag? mailman_start() { /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -q start } I removed it recently because I was having problem with two instances of mailman at startup. But I then realized I had two different scripts to start mailman so I removed one. I did not however change the main (and now only) startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ to have the -s flag included. Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot

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mailman postfix mysql
by Vytenis Tamakauskas 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hello, I have problem, In my mail server are postfix with mysql, witch handles many user accunts and few dommains. I need to make mailing list in that server, and i dont find any info about that how to set up postfix + mysql + mailman and make them work together, or some other way to create mailing list in this machine.. Please help! Pagarbiai, Vytenis Tamakauskas Lietuvos studentu sajungos Informaciniu technologiju projektu vadovas E-pastas: vytenis(a)lss.lt Skype: vytenis.t Mob.: +37062130121, +37067577393 ----------- Lietuvos studentu sajunga Gelezinio vilko g. 12, Vilnius, LT - 01112 tel.: 8 5 2685330, 2685331 faks.: 8 5 2611797 www.lss.lt

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Specify different SMTP server
by Andrew Hodgson 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hi, Reading previous emails seem to suggest I can make Mailman output to a different SMTP server by changing the options in the configuration files. I would quite like to do this, as currently Mailman is on a server which doesn't do much email, and the Exim on that machine outputs to the destination SMTP server in any case. My only question is: Is this a common deployment, and what happens if the destination SMTP server is down? Thanks. Andrew.

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Solved: smtp-failure: 'Addres family was not recognized or address length wasinvalid'
by Rameš Vladislav 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Thank you very much for your answer, it start working properly when I had defined SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py how you adviced (SMTPHOST='t2.pvt.cz', SMTPPORT='25'). Have a nice day. Vladislav Rames > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark@msapiro.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:04 PM > To: Rameš Vladislav > Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] smtp-failure: 'Addres family was > not recognized or address length wasinvalid' > > Ramea Vladislav wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I tried to run mailman 2.1.9 with postfix 2.0.16 on Alpha > TRU64 UNIX 5.1A. > > Unfortunately, when I tried to subscribe to my test > conference, I got this errors to smtp-failure file: > > > > ... > > Feb 12 16:57:08 2008 (250559) delivery to root[at]t2.pvt.cz failed > > with code -1: (5, 'Addres family was not recognized or > address length > > was invalid.') Feb 12 16:57:08 2008 (250559) Low level smtp > error: (5, > > 'Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid.'), > > msgid: <mailman.292.1202831704.250529.mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz> > > Feb 12 16:57:08 2008 (250559) delivery to root[at]t2.pvt.cz failed > > with code -1: (5, 'Addres family was not recognized or > address length > > was invalid.') Feb 12 17:00:02 2008 (250559) Low level smtp > error: (5, > > 'Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid.'), > > msgid: <mailman.293.1202832001.250529.mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz> > > ... > > > These errors are reported from the outgoing MTA to Mailman > when Mailman tries to send a message (in this case to > root[at]t2.pvt.cz). > > > > In Postfix maillog subscriptions looks like "send": > > > > ... > > t2.pvt.cz# tail mail.log > > Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/pickup[256660]: 5411D4DE: uid=0 > from=<root> Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/cleanup[256788]: > 5411D4DE: message-id=<20080213080500.5411D4DE[at]t2.pvt.cz> > > Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/qmgr[250778]: 5411D4DE: > from=<root[at]t2.pvt.cz>, size=346, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/local[256800]: warning: > dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled > Feb 13 09:05:01 t2 postfix/local[256800]: 5411D4DE: > to=<mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, > delay=1, status=sent ("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post > mailman") Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/pickup[256660]: > B1DA54DE: uid=0 from=<root> Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 > postfix/cleanup[256817]: B1DA54DE: > message-id=<20080213081000.B1DA54DE[at]t2.pvt.cz> > > Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/qmgr[250778]: B1DA54DE: > from=<root[at]t2.pvt.cz>, size=346, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/local[256815]: warning: > dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled > Feb 13 09:10:01 t2 postfix/local[256815]: B1DA54DE: > to=<mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, > delay=1, status=sent ("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post > mailman") ... > > > These log entries are the delivery of posts to Mailman and represent > sucessfull deliveries despite the warnings. > > > > When I tried mailman with sendmail, result was the same > (the same error messages in smtp-failure file). > > > Which indicates that the outgoing MTA Mailman is talking to > is neither > sendmail nor Postfix. > > > > Sending and receiving e-mails to/from users on this server > (t2.pvt.cz) works properly. > > > > I tried to find in conferences error message "Addres family > was not recognized or address length was invalid." with > "mailman", but withouth usable result. > > It is not a Mailman message. It comes from the MTA. > > Have you redefined SMTPHOST and/or SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py. If not, > Mailman is trying to send via SMTP to 'localhost' port 25. > What happens > if you 'telnet localhost 25'? What MTA answers? > > Also see > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04. 073.htp>. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Delete message in large mbox
by Barry Finkel 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

> I tried to use vim, but it's a too long file to manage (I don't know how > to do, too). I have not had as chance to read this entire thread from the weekend, so maybe what I have to say has already been said. I once had to processs a 1+Gb mbox file where there had been a mail loop, which caused the mbox file to grow in size. The owner wanted to save all of the non-looping mail in the mbox. I ended up using head, tail, grep, and a few other Unix utilities to find the wanted mail and extract it into a new mbox file. It would have been easier to use vi or vim, but the file was too large. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Introduction, and another archive question
by Jan Cohen 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Thanks for that info, Mark. Any idea of how close (or far away) the 3.0 release is? Jan C. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: Jan Cohen <najnehoc(a)yahoo.com>; mailman-users(a)python.org Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Introduction, and another archive question In the current Mailman archiving system and architecture, it's just not possible for the mail delivery process to know the id of the message in the archive. There will be improvement in the Mailman 3.0 time frame.

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Introduction, and another archive question
by Jan Cohen 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hi folks, I'm a "well-versed in perl/php but doesn't know squat about python" information architect/sr. tech writer who's volunteered his time to help the Interaction Design Association (IxDA) straighten out a few quirks with their Mailman-based mailing list. The question: is there any way (e.g., custom handlers) to add a link to the footers of smtp-generated messages that would allow readers to navigate to a specific thread in the IxDA's web-based archive? We've been able to set up the indexing for mail generated via the IxDA's web-based app satisfactorily, but we haven't been able to find an answer to the indexing question for mail that's sent to the list via an email app. A more detailed description of our setup follows: Here's how our current system works. Everything starts with the Mailman listserv. All member messages addressed to discuss(a)ixda.org go through Mailman. It mails them back out to the entire membership and at the same time creates an HTML archive of the message. That archive is here: http://tinyurl.com/3b9zm8 ( http://tinyurl.com/33ek3s is the link what's actually presented on the web) When Mailman creates the individual HTML page for a particular message, it assigns a sequential unique id and embeds it in the filename for the created page. About a year ago we started scraping those HTML archives and putting the contents of messages in a database and using them to drive the website at ixda.org. The unique ids we use for our posts are based on the unique ids Mailman generates. The problem is, the unique ids don't exist until after Mailman sends out the e-mail to the list, so it's not clear how to embed them in the e-mail beforehand. On the web we have an advantage. We don't need to embed the actual post id, which is unknowable in advance; we only have to embed the id of the initial post in the thread, which we already know at the time of composition. We append that link onto the body of the message before we send the e-mail from the website to Mailman. Members who send e-mail directly to discuss@ get their e-mails redistributed through Mailman directly without an opportunity to add any link to the e-mail. Even if we had a way to know the post id to embed, it's not clear whether it's possible to create a dynamic footer of any kind in Mailman. Any idea for other ways to structure the system? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Jan Cohen

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