Mailman 3 April 2009 - Mailman-Users

disable bounce processing not working
by Ricardo Kleemann April 25, 2009

April 25, 2009

Hi, I have a list and I set the option to disable bounce processing, the list admin wants to take care of bounces and removals on his own. However he's still getting addresses removed from the list automatically by mailman. Is there something else I need to set to make sure mailman doesn't do any automatic removals? Thanks Ricardo

2 1

How to insert google-analytics.com in mailman archives
by audit April 25, 2009

April 25, 2009

I'm trying to inset google-analytics.com in mailman archives and when I use the normal new coding to insert in the templates, it gives me strange script errors when I view the pages after running bin/arch listname If I run the old code then it works fine but I was just reading that the old code may not show the correct stats. Is there a way to insert the code into a html file and then call it from the templates? I have my phpads showing just fine with the script code so I don't understand why the google code won't work when I add that. Thanks

3 10

Problems after CentOS upgrade....
by Charles Gregory April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

Hallo! This may not specifically be a mailman problem, but I'm noticing strange behaviour in mailmain, as well as in general on my mail server. Background: My CentOS 4 system ran an automatic 'yum' update two days ago, and it updated many system files. I'm not an expert, but it looks like the 'kernel' and many 'lib' files were updated. The system did not 'reboot', but during this process everal daemons were automatically restarted, and my 'Mail Avenger' daemon just failed (which caused temporary delay of incoming mail). I had to restart 'asmtpd' and for good measure, restarted postfix. Mailman seemed to 'lock up', and queued all outgoing messages until I did a restart mid-yesterday. I got another complaint today, did another restart, and once again the list messages are going out. But I have no guarantee that it won't keep repeating this behaviour. Has anyone heard or seen any explanation for behaviour like this? It may be a postfix issue, even though postfix was *not* among the updated programs. I'm noticing that I'm seeing multiple copies of *some* messages from this list. They have the Received Lines showing they were sent multiple times by the list serve, almost as if they had 4xx errors the first time? Very strange..... I don't really want to reboot the whole system, especially where the stability of it is in doubt. Any advice welcome (anyone know a good, active CentOS mailing list that might have an angle on this?). Thanks! - Charles

2 5

Problem with hotmail
by Jesús Rivas April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

Hi everyone, i have a problem delivering email to hotmail, i'm attaching the log: ============================================================= Apr 24 12:29:11 evangelizacionactiva postfix/smtp[2260]: ABE81CC8621: to=<gabrie lavillafue(a)hotmail.com>, relay=mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25, delay=5, delays =4.5/0/0.4/0.1, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136] sa id: 550 OU-002 Mail rejected by Windows Live Hotmail for policy reasons. Reasons for rejection may be related to content with spam-like characteristics or IP/do main reputation problems. If you are not an email/network admin please contact y our E-mail/Internet Service Provider for help. Email/network admins, please visi t http://postmaster.live.com for email delivery information and support (in repl y to MAIL FROM command)) ============================================================= i connect telnet with hotmail port 25 correctly, even i requested to join to junk mail program of microsot hotmail additional info: we have a dedicated IP and our domain is evangelizacionactiva.org.mx with RDNS and SPF record correctly, well we think is correct, this issues started 2 week ago. thank and Best regards Saludos!!! Jesus Alonso Rivas Sistemas _____________________________________ Evangelización Activa Comunicación Digital al Servicio del Evangelio www.evangelizacion.org.mx

2 1

Problem with hotmail
by Jesús Rivas April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

Hi everyone, i have a problem delivering email to hotmail, i'm attaching the log: ============================================================= Apr 24 12:29:11 evangelizacionactiva postfix/smtp[2260]: ABE81CC8621: to=<gabrie lavillafue(a)hotmail.com>, relay=mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25, delay=5, delays =4.5/0/0.4/0.1, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136] sa id: 550 OU-002 Mail rejected by Windows Live Hotmail for policy reasons. Reasons for rejection may be related to content with spam-like characteristics or IP/do main reputation problems. If you are not an email/network admin please contact y our E-mail/Internet Service Provider for help. Email/network admins, please visi t http://postmaster.live.com for email delivery information and support (in repl y to MAIL FROM command)) ============================================================= i connect telnet with hotmail port 25 correctly, even i requested to join to junk mail program of microsot hotmail additional info: we have a dedicated IP and our domain is evangelizacionactiva.org.mx with RDNS and SPF record correctly, well we think is correct, this issues started 2 week ago. thank and Best regards -- cualquier duda estoy a tus ordenes Dios te bendiga Saludos Soporte Evangelizacion Activa _____________________________________ Evangelización Activa Comunicación Digital al Servicio del Evangelio www.evangelizacion.org.mx -- Saludos!!! Jesus Alonso Rivas Sistemas _____________________________________ Evangelización Activa Comunicación Digital al Servicio del Evangelio www.evangelizacion.org.mx

1 0

mail to non-existing list
by Jeff Bernier April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

Hello all, If someone posts a message to a list that does not exist in my Mailman system, the message goes to the pending moderator requests queue, and the sender gets a notice indicating their message is being held for moderator approval with the reason: "Message has implicit destination" My questions are... Why is it being held if the list does not exist? Can I alter the behavior of Mailman to discard the message instead? Thanks, Jeff

2 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail to non-existing list - Part two
by Jeff Bernier April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

I have tested this by just making up names on-the-fly like nolist, or xyzlist, and get this result every time. >>> Donna Dierker <donna(a)brainvis.wustl.edu> 4/24/2009 10:29 AM >>> To get a message like that, the list must exist one *some* system -- perhaps not the one you think. I would go to the mail server (e.g., if the list is mylist(a)myserver.edu, then ssh onto myserver.edu) and check the contents of /etc/aliases. See who mylist(a)myserver.edu is aliased to. On 04/24/2009 09:26 AM, Jeff Bernier wrote: > Sorry... I just wish to clarify... the message gets put in the moderator request queue in my "Mailman" list. > > Hello all, > > If someone posts a message to a list that does not exist in my Mailman system, the message goes to the pending moderator requests queue, and the sender gets a notice indicating their message is being held for moderator approval with the reason: "Message has implicit destination" > > My questions are... Why is it being held if the list does not exist? Can I alter the behavior of Mailman to discard the message instead? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail ( http://www.mail/ ) ( http://www.mail/ )-archive.com/mailman-users(a)python.org/ > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jbernier@risd.edu > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail ( http://www.mail/ )-archive.com/mailman-users(a)python.org/ > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/donna@brainvis.wustl.e… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >

3 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail to non-existing list - Part two
by Mark Sapiro April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

Jeff Bernier wrote: >I have an instance of Postfix-(2.4.3) running on my Mailman-(2.1.9) host-(Mac OSX 10.5.6). > >I am relatively new to both Mailman and Postfix, so I'm not sure where to look. Is there something in Postfix that may be causing this? Normally, but not always, Postfix delivers to Mailman via aliases that look like: mailman: "|/path/to/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/path/to/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/path/to/mail/mailman bounces mailman" etc. for the mailman (site) list, and LISTNAME: "|/path/to/mail/mailman post LISTNAME" LISTNAME-admin: "|/path/to/mail/mailman admin LISTNAME" LISTNAME-bounces: "|/path/to/mail/mailman bounces LISTNAME" etc. for a list named LISTNAME, with a set for each list. With Postfix, these aliases can be automatically maintained by Mailman, but they may not be. In your case, delivery is not (totally) via aliases, because if it were, and you mailed to NOLIST(a)example.com, the NOLIST address would be undeliverable because there would be no alias for it. So I'm guessing you have some other delivery process involving a dedicated domain, e.g. lists.example.com, and mail to a non-existent NOLIST(a)lists.example.com address is delivered to mailman(a)lists.example.com instead of being rejected during SMTP. The first step would be to find the entries for mail to NOLIST(a)lists.example.com in Postfix's log (the system maillog?) and see how they are being delivered. This is probably a complex process involving Postfix's master.cf and main.cf and other components. Is this an Apple OS X server preinstalled Mailman? If so, this is an Apple issue. We will try to help, but may not be able to. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 0

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail to non-existing list - Part two
by Jeff Bernier April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

I have an instance of Postfix-(2.4.3) running on my Mailman-(2.1.9) host-(Mac OSX 10.5.6). I am relatively new to both Mailman and Postfix, so I'm not sure where to look. Is there something in Postfix that may be causing this? >>> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> 4/24/2009 10:52 AM >>> Jeff Bernier wrote: >If I Telnet directly to Mailman with a bogus list name, I get the same result. I don't doubt that. The question is why? What (non-standard?) delivery method actually gets the mail from the MTA to Mailman? >>>> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> 4/24/2009 10:32 AM >>> >Jeff Bernier wrote: > >>Sorry... I just wish to clarify... the message gets put in the moderator request queue in my "Mailman" list. > > >So your MTA or other Mailman delivery process is delivering mail to >NONEXISTENTLIST(a)example.com as if it were addressed to >mailman(a)example.com. > >You have to examine this process to see why. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 0

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail to non-existing list - Part two
by Mark Sapiro April 24, 2009

April 24, 2009

Jeff Bernier wrote: >If I Telnet directly to Mailman with a bogus list name, I get the same result. I don't doubt that. The question is why? What (non-standard?) delivery method actually gets the mail from the MTA to Mailman? >>>> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> 4/24/2009 10:32 AM >>> >Jeff Bernier wrote: > >>Sorry... I just wish to clarify... the message gets put in the moderator request queue in my "Mailman" list. > > >So your MTA or other Mailman delivery process is delivering mail to >NONEXISTENTLIST(a)example.com as if it were addressed to >mailman(a)example.com. > >You have to examine this process to see why. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

1 0