Mailman 3 January 2010 - Mailman-Users

Mailman on multiple web and mail servers
by Guy 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

Hi, I've been going through the archives and I've picked up bits and pieces of the information I need, but in most cases NFS is discussed. I've got 5 Ubuntu servers, 2 postfix mail gateways (MXs for all our domains) and 3 apache web servers. All of those have access to an ISCSI SAN with OCFS2 partitions. Ideally I'd like to have the mail section running on both gateways (potentially more than just the 2 in the near future) and the web interface available from any of the web servers. This is more for availability than performance. Should separate installations of the web section on each web server be fine or is there shared information needed there? And since I'm using a clustered fs, would I still need to slice up the qfiles directory structure for the mail section? Or would having the entire mailman installation on shared storage and individual apache/postfix configs per machine be the way to go? Any other suggestions or advice about this would be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks Guy -- Don't just do something...sit there!

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Help?
by Lark Burger 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

I've done something stupid, and I don't know how to get out of it. I'm a moderator for the Knittingbeyondthehebrides group and I've accidentally banned a member. I was half-awake and accidentally clicked on the "permanent ban" button instead of approving her. Now I can't figure out how to get around that and approve the poor woman. Can you help? Is it possible to remove the ban from your end so that I may approve the membership? Lark Burger

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Adding users with cron - permission problems
by Phil Ewels 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

Hi all, I have a registration form where users, amongst other things, choose a number of mailing lists to sign up to. I don't want users to have to go and individually sign up to each list, so I'm trying to automate the signup process. After doing a bit of reading around, the closest I've got is to generate a plaintext file of email addresses for each newsletter and then use a cron command to sign these up, using the add_users program. To test, I've been running this cron command: echo test(a)testing.co.uk | /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/add_members -r - info Where info is the listname (info(a)nanotp.org) I get the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/add_members", line 258, in ? main() File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/add_members", line 211, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(listname) File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 128, in __init__ self.Lock() File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 161, in Lock self.__lock.lock(timeout) File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 243, in lock self.__write() File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 422, in __write fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/locks/info.lock.hephaestus.safeukdns.net.24247.0' I tried check_perms -f and get the same error: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/check_perms -f Warning: Private archive directory is other-executable (o+x). This could allow other users on your system to read private archives. If you're on a shared multiuser system, you should consult the installation manual on how to fix this. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/check_perms", line 399, in ? checkarchivedbs() File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/check_perms", line 258, in checkarchivedbs for dir in os.listdir(mm_cfg.PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_FILE_DIR): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/archives/private' Can anyone suggest a way to get around this problem? Or an alternative method of automating signups (they can be totally silent). I have tried a similar method using the PHP exec() command to hit the same program but had similar permission problems. Cheers, Phil

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman moderator email links variable
by Tim Van Dyne 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Okay well I changed the emails successfully to the moderator email addresses and removed the mailto: because these are announce-only lists, and having real emails would defeat the purpose of the obscuring. The last thing I'm trying to figure out with this section is how to take away the italics tag on just the email addresses. Basically "[/i]%(ownertext)s[i]" ...take it off then put it back on for emphasis of that text. The reverse is even acceptable, un-italicize everything, and then add [i]emails[/i] to make them stand out the inverse way. Any help with this is welcome. I'm not seeing where this text formatting is occurring. The code as I have it now: class HTMLFormatter: 40 def GetMailmanFooter(self): 41 ownertext = COMMASPACE.join([Utils.ObscureEmail(a, 1) 42 for a in self.moderator]) #changed to moderator from 'owner' 43 # Remove the .Format() when htmlformat conversion is done. 44 realname = self.real_name 45 hostname = self.host_name 46 listinfo_link = Link(self.GetScriptURL('listinfo'), realname).Format() 47 # owner_link = Link('mailto:' + self.GetOwnerEmail(), ownertext).Format() 48 # innertext = _('%(listinfo_link)s list run by %(owner_link)s') 49 innertext = _('%(listinfo_link)s list run by %(ownertext)s') 50 return Container( 51 '<hr>', 52 Address( 53 Container( 54 innertext, 55 ' ', 56 Link(self.GetScriptURL('admin'), 57 _('%(realname)s administrative interface')), 58 _(' (requires authorization)'), 59 ' ', 60 Link(Utils.ScriptURL('listinfo'), 61 _('Overview of all %(hostname)s mailing lists')), 62 '', MailmanLogo()))).Format() -----Original Message----- From: Tim Van Dyne Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:06 AM To: 'mailman-users(a)python.org' Subject: Mailman moderator email links variable After wading through the configs & google for a few hours I figure I'd just ask. Is there a variable that I can use to display moderator email address links. The same way owner_link is defined in HTMLFormatter.py: owner_link = Link('mailto:' + self.GetOwnerEmail(), ownertext).Format() The goal is to change the line in HTMLFormatter.py that displays the site owner email in the footer: innertext = _('%(listinfo_link)s list run by %(owner_link)s') To show moderator emails instead... -Tim-

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Mailman and Gmane ?
by John Fitzsimons 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

I am hoping that someone here has an account with Gmane. This is what I did. Doing beta testing. I posted to my newsgroup from an address that is NOT on my mailing list. I then got the Gmane "Authorization required " email which starts.. This is a non-public mailing list, which means that you have to subscribe to the list to post to it...... Knowing I wasn't subscribed with that address I "replied". To see what would happen. Then I got the next Gmane email... "You are now authorized to post to the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx newsgroup." etc. I shouldn't have got that second email, or had my newsgroup post forwarded to the newsgroup. Can anyone here suggest where the problem may be please ? As well as to suggest a way to fix it please ? The list was originally setup as a "confirm" subscription list but is now a "Require approval" list. This is what the subscription page says... Subscribe to xxxxxxxxx by filling out the following form. This is a closed list, which means your subscription will be held for approval. You will be notified of the list moderator's decision by email. So it "appears" to be setup correctly. Can anyone here help me with this please ? Regards, John.

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Really obscuring sender addresses
by David Newman 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

I've set up a read-only announcement mailing list following these guidelines: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030685 I am looking to obscure any reference to the sender's address from list postings. Per the guidelines, this includes (all done via the Web UI): anonymous_list: Yes first_strip_reply_to: Yes reply_goes_to_list: Explicit address reply_to_address: info(a)example.com include_rfc2369_headers: Yes include_list_post_header: No However, test messages I've sent to the list still include my address in the message headers: Received: from host.example.com (host.example.com [10.0.0.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman(a)networktest.com) by mail.example.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D354958A2 for <announce-list(a)lists.example.com>; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:24:09 -0800 (PST) Is it possible to scrub that "Authenticated sender" line? thanks dn

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Mailman moderator email links variable
by Tim Van Dyne 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

After wading through the configs & google for a few hours I figure I'd just ask. Is there a variable that I can use to display moderator email address links. The same way owner_link is defined in HTMLFormatter.py: owner_link = Link('mailto:' + self.GetOwnerEmail(), ownertext).Format() The goal is to change the line in HTMLFormatter.py that displays the site owner email in the footer: innertext = _('%(listinfo_link)s list run by %(owner_link)s') To show moderator emails instead... -Tim-

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access to our mailing list
by Peter.HOPKINS＠ec.europa.eu 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Hello, We have been using mailman for a number of years for our local group of Amnesty International. We access the mailing list through the link http://mailman.amnestygroup81.be/cgi-bin/admin/ai-members However, lately, we get an error 404 when trying to open the link. We can still send emails successfully, but since we can't access the administrator page we can't add or delete members, nor approve messages sent by members that are not administrators (though we still get the mails from mailman asking us to log on to approve them) Can you help? Many thanks Peter Hopkins

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Export mailing list addresses
by webmaster＠churchonthecape.org 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

How do I export the mailing list addresses? Bill Lord

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: [#ZPK-731315]: Mailing list constantly rejecting a member email - please assist
by Geoff Shang 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

Hi, Putting this back on the list. On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, John Grivas (wotsnext) wrote: > Hi Geoff > > The following is the error message received: > > -------- > This email has been automatically rejected because you are not a > member of the redfurina-owner(a)shnc.org.au mailing list. This looks very odd to me, though others may see some logical reason why the -owner bit is at the end of the list name. > If you would like to post a message to this mailing list, please > forward your original email to tim(a)shnc.org.au > > From: "John Grivas (wotsnext)" <john(a)wotsnext.com.au> > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:47:20 +1100 > To: <redfurina(a)shnc.org.au> > Subject: Testting 27.1 > -------- > > > But I have since 'deleted' the list redfurina(a)shnc.org.au and when I send > the email, I still get a bounce. So it must be hitting an old configuration > of the list. Maybe a stupid question. Did you say you've got two hosts involved in your domain? If so, which one is handling the mail? If it's the one that used to have the lists, did you properly clean out the lists from where they used to be? Geoff.

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