Mailman 3 February 2010 - Mailman-Users

Moving a list from one domain to another
by Geoff Shang 03 Feb '10

03 Feb '10

Hello, I realise this is probably a FAQ, but I couldn't find anything specificly about this in the FAQ. I need to move a list from one domain to another. The domains are both hosted on the same machine so there's no need to *physically* move anything. I figure I don't need to worry about the multiple domain restrictions, as I don't expect there to be name clashes (I admin all the lists and the server). I figure I have to change the host in the list configuration, and also add the new domain to mm_cfg.py. Apart from running bin/fix_url.py, do I need to do anything else? Can I run gen_aliases to fix the aliases (using Postfix) or is it better to change them by hand? Cheers, Geoff.

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Possible Bug in 2.1.13 sync_members
by b19141＠anl.gov 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

I think I may have uncovered a bug in Mailman 2.1.13. I have not completed my research. I have a script that refreshes the subscriber list via: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/sync_members -w=no -g=no -d=no -a=no \ -f /etc/mailman/generated_lists/LISTNAME LISTNAME where /etc/mailman/generated_lists/LISTNAME is a file that contains a possibly updated mailing list. In that file there is a line: ssmith(a)example.com (XYZ, 012345, Smith, S.A. (Sam)) and after I run the sync_members, every line below this one is ignored; the e-mail addresses in those lines are unsubscribed from the list. This has happened with two lists since I installed Mailman 2.1.13 (replacing 2.1.11 - I never installed 2.1.12 in production). The third list that contains this e-mail address has a different format: ssmith(a)example.com (Smith, S.A. (Sam) :012345) and that list has no problems. I have not yet checked for changes in the sync_members source from 2.1.11 to 2.1.12 to 2.1.13. I am running on Ubuntu dapper with packages I built from the SourceForge source. The only patches are 1) one from Ubuntu to place files in the proper directories 2) one from Mark Sapiro to allow multiple owner addresses on /usr/sbin/newlist ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Mailman 3.0 wishlist: imap protocol support
by Karl O. Pinc 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Hello, As long as I'm requesting features, it'd be nice if the mailman archive was able to support access via the imap protocol. I would think it would make more sense to structure the archive in such a way that any old imap server could be used rather than build imap protocol support into mailman itself, but that's not for me to say. Regards, Karl <kop(a)meme.com> Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein

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Help, I keep getting notices from a nonexisting group via mailman
by RhondaRR 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

The following is the message I keep getting. When I go to unsubscribe, it says that it is nonexistant. Can you help? How do I stop receiving this message? Mailing list membership??? However, I can't find a way to unsubscribe. Betterwaypress is no longer in existance. Can you help? From: listserver2-owner(a)betterwaypress.com Subject: betterwaypress.com mailing list memberships reminder my emails to the above keep bouncing back as "mail delivery failure" Thank you. rmiga(a)rochester.rr.com This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your betterwaypress.com mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of the list (for example, listserver2-request(a)betterwaypress.com) containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to you with instructions. If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to listserver2-owner(a)betterwaypress.com. Thanks! Passwords for rmiga(a)rochester.rr.com: List Password // URL ---- -------- listserver2(a)betterwaypress.com tirakaib http://betterwaypress.com/mailman/options/listserver2_betterwaypress.com/rm… Rhonda Miga Something Great Is Going To Happen Today, I Can't Wait To See What It Is. ~Brook Noel Make Today Matter www.maketodaymatter.net

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wrapper issue
by Hicks, Robert CTR 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

I changed mailman to use an aliases file (/etc/mail/mailman-aliases) which is owned by root:mailman. I get the following, which I didn't get when the aliases where being managed by Exim itself. ==== Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "exim". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=exim'. ==== So I have two options. The tweak, and the re-configure. What is the tweak? Or is it better to do the re-configure and if I do that does that "wipe" out anything in my current system? Alternatively, I can turn the Exim support back on but I was getting this error from one of my groups: ==== Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Test message only Sent: 2/1/2010 9:40 AM The following recipient(s) cannot be reached: email@address on 2/1/2010 9:42 AM The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. <smtp-host #5.1.1 smtp;> ==== The email was changed but the address is valid. Bob

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Bug: couldn't subscribe to dev list by simply replying
by Geoff Shang 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

Hi, Figured this would be the best place to report this. I just tried again to subscribe to the developers list and discovered that you couldn't confirm your subscription just by replying. The message text implies that the confirmation key should be in the subject, but the confirmation key was in the From address of the confirmation message (see below). Replying simply send me a message telling me that the subject line was being ignored. It seems the confirm code was also ignored. Not sure how it's meant to work but it's the first time I've had to resort to clicking on the URL. Oh and I notice that this is Mailman 2.1.12. :) Geoff. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:04:18 +0100 From: mailman-developers-confirm+519716b18b6d4ddef39fd87d0e5abdf8c5ced755(a)python.o rg To: geoff(a)quitelikely.com Subject: Your confirmation is required to join the Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for mailing list Mailman-Developers We have received a request from geoff(a)quitelikely.com for subscription of your email address, "geoff(a)quitelikely.com", to the mailman-developers(a)python.org mailing list. To confirm that you want to be added to this mailing list, simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact. Or visit this web page: http://mail.python.org/mailman/confirm/mailman-developers/519716b18b6d4ddef… Or include the following line -- and only the following line -- in a message to mailman-developers-request(a)python.org: confirm 519716b18b6d4ddef39fd87d0e5abdf8c5ced755 Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from most mail readers, since that usually leaves the Subject: line in the right form (additional "Re:" text in the Subject: is okay). If you do not wish to be subscribed to this list, please simply disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously subscribed to the list, or have any other questions, send them to mailman-developers-owner(a)python.org.

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Private archive nightmare with vhosts
by UGSD 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

Hello, I work for a large university and was recently put in charge of consolidating a bunch of mailman lists from multiple domains onto 1 server. First problem that I encountered was the single namespace issue with virtual domains, so i removed the stock Mailman 2.1.12 that came with Ubuntu, downloaded Mailman 2.1.7 and patched it with mailman-2.1.7-release-to-vhost.patch from http://ndim.fedorapeople.org/stuff/mailman-vhost/. That went pretty smooth, compiled and installed without any major issues. put these in mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.dept.university.edu' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.dept.university.edu' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('lists.domain1.net', 'lists.domain1.net') add_virtualhost('lists.domain2.net', 'lists.domain2.net') POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.domain1.net', 'lists.domain2.net'] After that I setup Postfix, added a new list "test-list" which was automatically created in the right place - /path/to/mailman/lists/lists.domain1.net/test-list/ So no problem here. I subscribed to the list, confirmed the subscription and sent couple of test messages. Everything worked great. Next i went to browse the archives and encountered another problem. The URLs for the Public archives were not right, but I got around it with a simple Apache rewrite: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/pipermail/([a-z]+)\.(.*)?$ [NC] RewriteRule ^/pipermail/(.*)$ /pipermail/%{SERVER_NAME}/$1 [R=301,L] Basically all it does is insert "lists.domainX.net" between /pipermail/ and /test-list/. Public archives are now working with http://lists.domain1.net/pipermail/lists.domain1.net/test-list/ Next I tried to test Private archives and this is where I hit the wall and need some help with. The listinfo page for my test-list showed that the URL for the private archives was http://lists.domain1.net/private/test-list, so i figured i would be able to fix it with the same rewrite rule that i used for the Public archives. However, because private CGI wrapper expects the list name right after /private/, this URL http://lists.domain1.net/private/lists.domain1.com/test-list/ did not work, and all i got was the error message saying that "list lists.domain1.net does not exist" Next, I changed my rewrite rule to redirect me to http://lists.domain1.com/private/test-list@lists.domain1.com instead RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/private/(.*)(a)(.*)?$ [NC] RewriteRule ^/private/(.*)/$ /private/$1@%{SERVER_NAME} [R=301,L] This redirected me to the login page and seemed to work great, until I tried to login and got hit with the message that "test-list" does not exist. After a little digging, I traced the problem to the incorrect html from action, private.py and private.html template file. With my very limited [read "non-existing"] Python knowledge I managed to pass some arguments to the private.html and change the form action from http://lists.domain1.com/private/test-list/ to http://lists.domain1.com/private/test-list@lists.domain1.com and was able to login, but now i got another error - "Private archive file not found". I looked at the log file and saw the following error message: Jan 26 09:31:18 2010 (21196) Private archive file not found: /path/to/mailman/archives/private/test-list(a)lists.domain1.net Just for the hell of it I decided to create a symbolic link and see if it will work ln -s /path/to/mailman/archives/private/lists.domain1.net/test-list /path/to/mailman/archives/private/test-list(a)lists.domain1.net This seemed to work and i was able to pull up the Private archive page, however all the links were missing "/private/test-list(a)lists.domain1.net" and looked like "http://lists.domain1.com/2010-January/" [this part is not really important right now. i guess i will deal with this problem later.] Now it looks like the "path" variable in private.py (line 70 or very close) is causing the issue: path = os.environ.get('PATH_INFO') According to the debug log my PATH_INFO is test-list(a)lists.domain1.net, so I figured I should be able to fix it like so: path = os.path.join(os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME'), <LIST NAME HERE>) [ end result has to be "lists.domain1.net/test-list ] But i could not figure out how to pass the list name to os.path.join() and no matter what I did i either ended up with undeclared variable or some other related error. I really hope someone would be able to help me out here or point me in the right direction. Thank you in advance, - Igor

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MTA='Manual'
by Hicks, Robert CTR 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

I know that Exim and Mailman play nicely. Is there any problem with my setting the MTA value to manual, doing a genaliases and adding the to my aliases file to handle the aliases? Sounds silly but I would like to see the aliases and not have that be automagically hidden behind the scenes. -- Bob

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Password // URL in Notification Emails
by Carlos Williams 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

Every month I get an email from MailMan list's I am currently subscribed to & in this email there is a field that shows as follows: List Password // URL ---- -------- staff(a)mydomain.tld vipidimi https://mail.mydomain.tld/mailman/options/ctia/carlos%40mydomain.tld Can someone tell me if there is a way to disable the plain text email of passwords via the MailMan system? I don't think those passwords are for 'Administrative' login sessions of lists so I really don't understand their purpose. Can anyone tell me what they are used for and how can I disable them from the reminder email? Thanks for any help!

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List "Locked Up"...kind of
by Wayne Cook 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

I have mailman on OSX 10.4.11 server and I set up a mailing list with 4 or 5 addresses in it to test stuff out. All seemed to work fine with adding, deleteing, sending mail and such so I imported about 50 addresses into the list from a different mail programs (via a csv file). Everything still seemed to work fine so I imported about 30,000 emails and stuff got flakey. The email lists won't send mail any more, and they won't show up in the OSX Server Admin but they do show up using the web interface. When I go to Server Admin and click the mail tab, the enable mailing lists check box is unchecked and in the bottom left of the window (to the left of the "overview | logs | connections | maintenance | settings" menu, I have the spinnie wheel that something is happening and that's been going on for about 12 hours. Can anyone give me ideas on how to get things so I can see them again? The activity monitor says servermgrd is using between 98 to 100% of the cpu. I kill this process or restart the machine and everything stays the same. Thanks Wayne

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