Mailman 3 March 2010 - Mailman-Users

mailman sends to smarthost not to list
by Richard Gillman 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

I'm having difficulty getting mailman with sendmail to work on a RedHat 5 box. First, I check that sendmail's prog mailer is working. I add an alias test: "|/bin/logger -i -p local3.info test" to my aliases file, restart sendmail, and send test an email Mar 24 14:26:06 wwwtest sendmail[12555]: o2OEQ6Bi012555: from=root, size=48, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201003241426.o2OEQ6Bi012555(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, relay=root@localhost Mar 24 14:26:06 wwwtest sendmail[12556]: o2OEQ6AN012556: from=<root(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, size=358, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201003241426.o2OEQ6Bi012555(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]Mar 24 14:26:06 wwwtest sendmail[12555]: o2OEQ6Bi012555: to=test(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30048, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (o2OEQ6AN012556 Message accepted for delivery) Mar 24 14:26:06 wwwtest sendmail[12557]: o2OEQ6AN012556: to="|/bin/logger -i -p local3.info test", ctladdr=<test(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk> (51/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30599, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Syslog contains Mar 24 14:26:06 wwwtest logger[12558]: test So it worked. /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py contains DEFAULT_URL_HOST = "wwwtest.xxx.uk" DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "wwwtest.xxx.uk" DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' #add_virtualhost('wwwtest.xxx.uk') add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) [root@wwwtest mail]# I've a mailman list set up, with a few members, and the appropriate aliases are there. mail -s test mailman(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk /var/log/maillog contains Mar 24 14:27:13 wwwtest sendmail[12565]: o2OERDl0012565: from=root, size=51, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201003241427.o2OERDl0012565(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, relay=root@localhost Mar 24 14:27:13 wwwtest sendmail[12566]: o2OERDDM012566: from=<root(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, size=364, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201003241427.o2OERDl0012565(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]Mar 24 14:27:13 wwwtest sendmail[12565]: o2OERDl0012565: to=mailman(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30051, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (o2OERDDM012566 Message accepted for delivery) Mar 24 14:27:13 wwwtest sendmail[12567]: o2OERDDM012566: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman", ctladdr=<mailman(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk> (51/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30608, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Now things go wrong, mailman (or sendmail) forwards the mail to the site relay, mercury, which rejects it, user unknown. I _think_ it is mailman forwarding the mail because if it were sendmail, there would be a log entry of sendmail talking to the site relay. Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12569]: o2OEREo5012569: from=<mailman-bounces(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, size=1084, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<mailman.6.1269440833.27154.mailman(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12570]: o2OEREo5012569: to=<root(a)wwwtest.xxx.uk>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=139300, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12572]: o2OERET3012572: from=<mailman-bounces(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, size=2625, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<mailman.8.1269440833.27154.mailman(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12574]: o2OERET3012572: to=<mailman-owner(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=230625, relay=mercury.xxx.uk. [xxx.xxx.240.183], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12574]: o2OERET3012572: o2OERET3012574: DSN: User unknown Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12574]: o2OERET3012574: to=<mailman-bounces(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30000, relay=mercury.xxx.uk. [xxx.xxx.240.183], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12574]: o2OERET3012574: o2OERET4012574: return to sender: User unknown Mar 24 14:27:14 wwwtest sendmail[12574]: o2OERET4012574: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30000, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent This appears in the relay logs at the same time. Mar 24 14:27:14 mercury sendmail[19882]: o2OEREiM019882: <mailman-owner(a)mercury.xxx.uk>... User unknown Mar 24 14:27:14 mercury sendmail[19882]: o2OEREiM019882: from=<mailman-bounces(a)mercury.xxx.uk>, size=2851, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=wwwtest [xxx.xxx.240.139] Mar 24 14:27:14 mercury sendmail[19882]: o2OEREiO019882: <mailman-bounces(a)mercury.xxx.uk>... User unknown Mar 24 14:27:14 mercury sendmail[19882]: o2OEREiO019882: from=<>, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=wwwtest [xxx.xxx.240.139] the site relay is configured in sendmail.cf in the DS parameter (smart host). Anyone got an idea of what I'm doing wrong? tia, Dick -- Richard Gillman IST UNIX Systems Group, Maclean Building, Wallingford OX10 8BB Tel: 01491 - 692 339 Fax: 01491 - 692 424

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Wiki scheduled downtime
by Barry Warsaw 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Just a quick announcement to let you know that wiki.list.org is scheduled to be off-line for upgrades starting at 2200 UTC on Friday, March 19, 2010. Total downtime is not known, as they will be upgrading us to the latest version and it's a big upgrade. Cheers, -Barry

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Problem sending one email to multiple lists
by Heather Masterson 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Hi, I have a customer that uses Mailman on their VPS (Virtual Private Server) running the Plesk Control Panel. After a recent upgrade of Plesk, they can no longer send a single email to multiple lists. Supposedly, this worked prior to the upgrade. For example, if they send a message to list1(a)domain.com and 'CC' list2(a)domain.com, only list1 recipients receive the email. I was able to reproduce this behavior on a test VPS we have available here at our office. I'm able to send to each test list individually but when I send to one list and 'CC' the other, I only receive emails from the first list. The mail server logs show the initial email going out to both list addresses so I'm not sure why one is being "dropped" after reaching mailman. I experimented with the Mailman Privacy Options | Recipient Filters and set "Must posts have list named in destination (to, cc) field (or be among the acceptable alias names, specified below)? " to No for both of my test lists, but this didn't help resolve the issue. <http://lists.geekchk.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/test2-list/?VARHELP=privacy/…> I'd really appreciate any suggestions! -- Heather Masterson Modwest Support Team support(a)modwest.com http://modwest.com/help/

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suggestion?
by Rick.French 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Good Afternoon Your software was recommended as a solution for my requirements. I am a Realtor and I would like to be able to send out mass emails to the folks that have asked to be kept up-to-date. I have tried to send to my list once but apparently it was viewed as spam and most of the mail came back to me. Your software was suggested as a package that would assist the handling of the task. I did download it but it will not work with the windows s/w that I use as my op system. Do you have any recommendations that might assist?? REALLY appreciate!! Kind Regards Rick French

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Forward to Facebook page and/or RSS feed?
by Thomas Gramstad 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

I have an announcement list where I would like to forward all postings to a Facebook fan page. Is that possible? Facebook fan pages have the possibility to incorporate RSS feeds, so a more general question is, is is possible to feed a Mailman mailing list into/as an RSS feed? If that's not possible, is there another way to automatically forward messages from a Mailman list to a Facebook fan page? Thomas Gramstad thomas(a)ifi.uio.no

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PDFs in .mht file
by Mark Bishop 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

We send pdfs as attachments to a mailman listserv and our PDFs get scrubbed and saved as .mht attachments. However, we have tried opening the .mht and all we see in the MIME email is the ASCII dump of the pdf attachments and the correct Content-Type: application/pdf. I've tried the unmht extension in Firefox, as well as IE7 but we cannot recover the PDFs. Am I mangling the scrubber config or doing something incorrectly?

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put a list user into automated bounce processing from the command line?
by Anne LaVin 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Hey, mailman gang - longtime listener, first-time caller, here. I run a whole bunch of mailman lists (several hundred; and they're on a private server on which I have full root access as needed, yay) and have automatic bounce processing turned on for pretty much all the lists. And, mostly, it works beautifully. But every now and then I get a list member whose deliveries start (and keep) bouncing, but whose mail host sends unrecognizable bounces. I would very much like to find a way (command-line is fine) to start those list members' accounts off into the automated bounce processing system somehow; in other words, I want to change their status to "nomail-because-of-bounces" and I want the rest of the automated system to know that that account is now starting down the path to account removal and act accordingly, without requiring further action from me, just as it would have if the bounces had been processed by the system in the first place. (If I change the user's status via the web interface as admin, they get "nomail-because-of-admin" status and then they just sit around on the lists forever, or I have to remember sometime later to remove them, and that's just annoying. So please don't suggest that route, I can always do that if nothing else works!) I think I can figure out enough Python (Python newbie, would prefer to stay that way, thank you, I have enough stuff cluttering up my brain already) to do something using "withlist" to change an account to the "nomail-because-of-bounces" state, but I don't know where to look or what to do to get the automated bounce thingy to notice them. (I am assuming that there must be more state associated with the user than just their nomail status, as there's the whole date-related logic of how many times they've been contacted, did a response fail to come back to the system's messages, etc. I just don't know where all of that state lives, and/or whether I can get at it from the outside, somehow.) I tried to find stuff in the list archives about this, but so far have failed (I have lousy search karma.) Surely someone else has this problem and has come up with a way to do something like this? Thanks for any pointers, Anne

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MailMan product question
by David Scarborough 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Hi, We have an organization with a need for a mailing list manager. Their desire is to have something that allows them to enter a contact name and a contact email address. Most systems we have reviewed only show email addresses so deciphering who is actually on the list is impossible. I realize that users can subscribe/unsubscribe by email but this is not what they need. Does Mailman manage lists with contact name AND email address? I could not tell easily from the product information. Thanks! All the best, David David Scarborough Net Friends, Inc * SciMed Solutions, Inc * 327 W Main St * Durham, NC 27701 Ph 919-680-3763 * Fax 919-680-3377 * eFax 866-329-0644 www.netfriends.com <http://www.netfriends.com/> www.scimedsolutions.com <http://www.scimedsolutions.com/>

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Temporary wiki.list.org outage
by Barry Warsaw 22 Mar '10

22 Mar '10

Hi folks, wiki.list.org may experience some short-term outages as the fine folks at Contegix attempt to upgrade our instance. They originally tried to do it over the weekend, but had some troubles and now want to attempt it again during weekday hours. Thanks, -Barry

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need help
by Rajeeth S 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

Hey I created a mailing list. The list automaticaly sent a welcome message to my clients. (i didn't want this) this is the default setting. I think this should be changed in the future versions of mailman. Is there a way to cancel these welcome messages before my clients see them.? Thank You Raj. _________________________________________________________________ Take your contacts everywhere http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712959

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