Mailman 3 June 2010 - Mailman-Users

Changing mailing list URLs
by Eli Barzilay 05 Jun '10

05 Jun '10

Is there a way to change mailing list URLs from ...something.../<verb>/<list> to ...something.../<list>/<verb> ? Hopefully also with making `listinfo' be the default verb so that ...something.../<list> is just that page. (I can obviously do that in the apache configuration, but the generated urls are still what mailman wants and in addition it seems that it messes up the authentication somehow.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life!

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Bounce notification question
by Ian Prietz 05 Jun '10

05 Jun '10

Hi all, I was researching some things on Mailman. I am a new user. We have it available via a control panel through our host, so I do not have access to logs or anything of that nature. I have a similar question that many have asked. How do you get Mailman to send all bounce notices to the list owner? I found a perfect response to my question in the link below. I am just looking for some more clarification on what would happen if I went with option 2 (re: aliases) http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg53750.html 1. How would I go about doing this? 2. Will that change the way that Mailman functions as a whole...what exactly does it do? 3. I also received the same advice from the help desk at my host/provider, re: changing the bounce score threshhold, that way I am definitely made aware when something happens, and for the sake of simplicity, that may be the way that I go. 4. Any other advice? Thanks, Ian

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Mailman Administrator sending a list from Hotmail
by Robyn & Bill Kemp 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

Dear Mailman Users I am new to Mailman and set up a list of users to email information to members of my Rugby League Football Club. I set up the list from C-Panel and I am not able to access the command line. The version of Mailman being used is 2.1.12.cp3. My problem is that I have set myself as an administrator and have sent emails to the list via Outlook Express and all was OK. However, I added another user to the Admin Group and he sent an email via Hotmail to the list but was refused access to the list. Can anyone advise me were to look for a solution to this problem. Regards Bill Kemp Engadine, Australia

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Release of e-mails
by Jasper - HRSA 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

Is there a setting in mailman where one can release 300 e-mails every hour. My host only allow me to send 300 e-mails every hour. huskyrescue-sig Jasper van Jaarsveld Cell: 083 231 2290 Fax: 086 586 0288 Husky Rescue - Representative <mailto:jasper@huskyrescue.co.za> jasper(a)huskyrescue.co.za <http://www.huskyrescue.co.za> www.huskyrescue.co.za

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qrunner is generating mail - how to stop?
by Ralf Hildebrandt 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

One of my list admins let a mail of 5MB through to a VERPified list of more then 7000 member. Mailman is generating the mails at about one message per second. This takes quite a while, during that time no other mails are getting through. How can I stop mailman's processing of that perticular mail? (mailman-2.1.13) -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de | http://www.charite.de

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Uncaught runner exception: regular_exclude_lists
by Adam Nielsen 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

Hi all, I've followed the FAQ to move some lists across to a new server, but now on the new machine any message posted to a list gets passed to Mailman and then disappears. The Mailman error log says this: Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: regular_exclude_lists Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in _oneloop File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in _onefile File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 99, in process File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 157, in do_exclude File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 146, in __getattr__ AttributeError: regular_exclude_lists Sep 24 10:34:18 2009 (5311) SHUNTING: 1253752458.0181279+c9484331c59781f0d3cf0af775ece9b9c88a6b43 I can't find any reference to this exception, so I'm a bit stuck where to look next. Any ideas? The new server is running a fresh install of Mailman (it didn't have any lists before I moved these ones across) and the move went from Slackware to Gentoo so many of the paths have changed, just in case these are saved in the list data. (I have run the fixurl script as per the FAQ, and the lists do appear in the Mailman web UI.) Many thanks, Adam.

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Googlemail -> Gmail: A three step approach...
by Adam McGreggor 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

Hi, I thought other listadmins might be having fun with gmail now being available in the UK (rather than "googlemail", as it has been for a while (despite 'gmail' originally being available, back in the days of invitation only)), and thought I'd share my hackish way around this, so listfolks can post from their gmail.com addresses. It's not pretty, but works for me -- pre-requisite, Mark's very useful "non-members" script: http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members 1 find who you need to work with: mkdir ~/tmp/gmail /var/lib/mailman/bin$ list_lists -b | while read L; \ do \ list_members ${L} | grep googlemail > ~/tmp/gmail/${L}; \ done 2 Zap annoucement lists from the files, remove empty files, too. 3 Let them post! /var/lib/mailman/bin$ ls -1 ~/tmp/gmail | while read L; do \ sed 's/@googlemail.com/@gmail.com/' ~/tmp/gmail/${L} | \ while read X; do \ ./non_members --list=${L} --filter=accept --add ${X} --verbose; \ done; \ done (nb: the path (/var/lib/mailman/bin) is from a Debian machine -- Mailman installed via packages -- and in my case /var/lib/mailman/bin being in my ${PATH} -- so replace those as appropriate in your cases.) Which seems to have done the trick: in both cases, I just used long-lines, but I think I've \'d in the right places, above YMMV. Hope that helps others. -- The University of California Department of Statistics... where mean is normal, and deviation standard

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Mailman + Postfix + Virtual Maps = initial mailman list works but new lists don't
by Aaron Couch 01 Jun '10

01 Jun '10

*in short: *i can get mailman to work with the 'mailman' list but not with subsequently added lists. * disclaimer:* I've searched long and hard for an answer to this, including the archives of this mailing list. There were similar threads but none of the solutions solved this problem including: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg55226.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg55226.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg54930.html *versions:* ubuntu 9.04 mailman 2.1.12 postfix 2.5.5 *what works:* postfix virtual domains with mysql work fine. mailman with apache works fine. i'm able to create new lists and the alias and virtual-mailman files are updated. I receive the proper "you've been added" emails. the initial mailman(a)mydomain.org list and email works. i am able to send and receive email and add new users. *what doesn't work:* any lists added after the inital 'mailman' list fails. it is added through the web interface and added to the alias and virtual mailman files. the new users get the "you've been added email". however any emails sent to that list, let's call it pleasework(a)mydomain.org, fail. *the logs:* here is what the mail.log file says for emails that fail to pleasework(a)mydomain.org: May 29 20:13:44 servername postfix/virtual[12598]: 4936C5CB9F: to=< pleasework(a)mydomain.org>, relay=virtual, delay=888, delays=888/0.05/0/0.01, dsn=4.1.1, status=SOFTBOUNCE (unknown user: "pleasework(a)mydomain.org") here is a successful log message to mailmain(a)mydomain.org: May 30 16:15:15 servername postfix/pipe[31452]: 51F265CBCB: to=< mailman(a)lists.mydomain.org>, orig_to=<mailman(a)mydomain.org>, relay=mailman, delay=0.66, delays=0.25/0.01/0/0.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailman service) *uninformed analysis:* it seems like the mailman-virtual map isn't working. i've tried changing the permissions in the mailmain-virtual file in case that was an issue but to no avail. again the 'pleasework' list does show up in it and the alias file as well: # LOOP ADDRESSES START mailman-loop(a)mydomain.org mailman-loop # LOOP ADDRESSES END # STANZA START: awesome # CREATED: Sun May 30 17:25:53 2010 pleasework(a)mydomain.org pleasework I have had a hickup when trying to regenerate the alias files. The bin/genaliases file had the following errors: Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/genaliases", line 116, in <module> main() File "bin/genaliases", line 83, in main modulename = 'Mailman.MTA.' + mm_cfg.MTA TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects In my mm_cfg I had MTA=None which is recommended when using the '/usr/share/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py'. I tried changing it to MTA="" but still got an error. It succeeded when I just removed the MTA variable. It says to add the list info to the /etc/aliases file and use the newaliases command but in my main.cf file I have the mailman aliases file added to the alias_maps variable (see below) so I would think that shouldn't be an issue. *my setup:* mm_cfg.py file: MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/cgi-bin/mailman/private' IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/mailman/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.org' DEB_LISTMASTER = 'listmaster(a)mydomain.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.mydomain.org' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('lists.mediamobilizingproject.org', ' lists.mediamobilizingproject.org') DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en' USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0 DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0 postconf -n : alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases append_dot_mydomain = no biff = no broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes config_directory = /etc/postfix delay_warning_time = 4h disable_vrfy_command = yes inet_interfaces = all mailbox_size_limit = 0 masquerade_domains = mail.mydomain.org masquerade_exceptions = root mydestination = mediamoblizing.org, localhost.mydomain.org, , localhost myhostname = servername.mydomain.org mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128 myorigin = mydomain.org readme_directory = no recipient_delimiter = + relay_domains = lists.mydomain.org, lists.mediamobilizingproject.org relay_recipient_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman relayhost = smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache smtp_use_tls = yes smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_invalid_hostname, permit smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname smtpd_sasl_path = private/dovecot-auth smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_unknown_sender_domain smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-mail.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-mail.key smtpd_tls_mandatory_ciphers = medium, high smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache smtpd_use_tls = yes soft_bounce = yes tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport unknown_address_reject_code = 554 unknown_client_reject_code = 554 unknown_hostname_reject_code = 554 virtual_alias_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/my_alias_maps.cf, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman virtual_gid_maps = static:8 virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail virtual_mailbox_domains = mydomain.org virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/my_mailbox_maps.cf virtual_minimum_uid = 150 virtual_transport = virtual virtual_uid_maps = static:150 Thanks for any assistance you can offer! best, -Aaron

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