Mailman 3 January 2012 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell 07 May '24

07 May '24

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli 26 Feb '24

26 Feb '24

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 16 Nov '23

16 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 16 Feb '21

16 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 09 Sep '20

09 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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slow "out" queue
by Anil Jangity 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

We just moved a very old mailman infrastructure mailman to Solaris and sendmail. It seems, when a message is posted, the "out" directory doesn't seem to clear out fast enough. 1K archive 1K bounces 1K commands 1K in 1K news 403K out 1K retry 1K shunt 1K virgin The size just stays like that forever and slowly decrements. When I look in /var/log/syslog (mail log of sendmail), I see deliveries going through. I do a 'truss' of the OutgoingRunner python process and I see: % truss -p 11997 recv(10, 0x00748454, 8192, 0) (sleeping...) ... % What is it waiting for?

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can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail) sender address?
by Stefan P. Wolf (NassRasur.com) 12 Feb '12

12 Feb '12

scenario: I run a discussion forum and we have a closed list where the members are the moderators of the forum. Forum users can write to all moderators through this list's address. Let's say the address is mods(a)myforum.mydomain.com Now I would like to be able to create also a *real* mail account with the same address, for SENDING (outgoing mail) only. Each moderator is then able to send mail though this mail account so that the sender of their mails is the (anonymous!) list address mods(a)myforum.mydomain.com -- incoming mail for this address should be ignored by our MTA (qmail) so that mailman correctly takes it. Is this possible and how must mailman and qmail be set up? We are using Plesk but we also have root access if Plesk is not capable of configuring this. Thanks for any help! Best regards, Stefan.

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Thoughts about migrating to Mailman instead of Sympa (from Majordomo)
by Geoff Mayes 10 Feb '12

10 Feb '12

Hello Mailman gurus, I hope a general question about Mailman's features and future direction (along with some Sympa comparisons) are appropriate for this list. The University of Oregon is migrating away from Majordomo. We decided on Sympa because Mailman sends passwords over email while Sympa provides centralized (e.g. Shibboleth, LDAP, etc) authentication. If Mailman provided a way around the passwords in the clear issue, I'm pretty sure we'd go with Mailman because: - Mailman is more thoroughly used and thus tested (one stat that gets at this is Alexa Traffic Rank: 165,692 vs 749,729 for Sympa) - Mailman is more mature (the max bug ID for mailman in its issue-tracking system is ~913,400; the max bug ID for Sympa is 8,117 and there is still no bug category for Sympa's latest version -- 6.1.7 -- even though it has been out for over 4 months) - Mailman has greater branch stability and code reliability (I noticed that Barry ran a pre-checkin acceptance suite for the Postgres patch for Mailman 3 before he checked it in) - Mailman has a bright and well-documented future (Mailman 3 and its bug tracker, source code, milestones, etc) - Mailman has a more active and supportive community, which is very important in resolving future issues (Mailman had 150 list postings in December and through mid-January while Sympa had 44; I've been impressed with Mark Sapiro's responsiveness on this list) Does anyone know a way around the emailed passwords issue in Mailman, clever hacks, certain plugins, or a timeline for Mailman 3's release? I've written a number of Django apps using my own LDAP module, so I was also wondering if folks think now is a mature-enough time to perhaps grab Mailman 3, its Django front-end, and hack together what I'm after? A final, random question: Mailman 3 is still in alpha, but is it stable given that it's almost been in alpha for 4 years? Many, many thinks for any help, pointers, or information, Geoff Mayes

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Hidden address list
by Pierre KUHN 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hello I want to change the configuration of the mailing list so that all messages are sent directly to the recipient, and the name of the mailing list does not appear anywhere in the heads. Is possible now? Sla dan because I find information FAQ from 2006 Cordially Pierre

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Mail sent to 2 different mailinglists under one domain fail..
by Nils Kolstein 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hello, As a list administrator for several mailinglists I encounter the following issue: I have two mailinglists under one domain. When sending an E-Mail to both mailinglists the message is only delivered to one mailinglist. I don't recieve a "recipient unknown" message or similar back so it seems the message is blackholed somewhere. This behaviour is seen when mailing from several different domains (gmail, hotmail etc.) The version of Mailman installed is 2.1.9 I checked the FAQ and list archives and was unable to find a similar issue. Does anyone know what's going on? Is there some setting I have to change? Many thanks in adavnce for your help. regards, Nils Kolstein

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