Mailman 3 December 2014 - Mailman-Users

Robots.txt
by Greg Sims Dec. 27, 2014

Dec. 27, 2014

Hi Everyone, I hope you had a good Christmas with friends and family. We developed custom subscription pages for the mailing lists supported by our website. Although these pages show on our SERP listings, so do the Info Pages provided by Mailman. Please try the following search query on Google and you will see what I mean: site:raystedman.org email This is confusing for our users so I would like to hide all the pages containing "mailman" and "pipermail" from the SERP listings. I read the archives of this list and found a couple of entries. The answer seems to be including "Disallows" in our robots.txt file. I did this as you can see here -- towards the bottom of the file: http://www.raystedman.org/robots.txt This has been in place for four weeks so I do not believe it is working. I believe this problem is there needs to be a robots.txt file for each subdomain. In this case, mailman lives in the lists.raystedman.org subdomain. Is there a way to have a robots.txt file for the lists.raystedman.org subdomain? Thanks in advance for your assistance! Greg

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Yahoo spam detection
by Steven D'Aprano Dec. 25, 2014

Dec. 25, 2014

Some of my Yahoo subscribers are reporting that emails from my mailing list are being flagged as spam. As far as I can tell, I'm not using spammy words, and the emails are plain text not HTML. I have SPF set up. One of the Yahoo subscribers kindly forwarded me the full headers and I can see these which appear relevant: X-YahooFilteredBulk: 150.101.137.129 Received-SPF: pass (domain of pearwood.info designates 150.101.137.129 as permitted sender) X-Originating-IP: [150.101.137.129] Authentication-Results: mta1310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com from=pearwood.info; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=pearwood.info; dkim=neutral (no sig) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqD1AA1PlVR20UxqPGdsb2JhbABBGoNYWIMEs1KFGUqBUIYAhFwBgQKCMQMgdBc BAQEBAQYBAQEBODuEDgYZAQgREgMFAgYYCgQDAQIGAiQCBRYHCAIBBgMCAQIBDx AICgQeBQYCAgEUAQIBAgKHdwMQCTy6DYFwhGOJUQ2Fa4EhgWqGfwGCOYJMCgQDA QKEfgWDfTAGhB8rgjCDBYJSSYF/gUGCDXQwgjOCBgwhgzaCH4IZgmyCfoFzKjEB AQkBdwkXgSABAQE X-IronPort-SPAM: SPAM Googling suggests that nobody except Cisco can decipher the X-IronPort-Anti-Spam header, and they refuse to tell even their customers what it means, let alone people like me. Can anyone suggest something I can do to convince Yahoo I'm not sending spam? Thanks, -- Steve

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Understanding patterns of unsubscribe
by Steven D'Aprano Dec. 25, 2014

Dec. 25, 2014

Hi all, Back in September, I migrated an announcement-only mailing list from Yahoo to mailman, with approximately 1800 email addresses. An unknown number of these were dead. The mailing list I am running sends out one, maybe two, emails a month, at around the same time of the month. It's not a discussion list, so there are no replies from subscribers. I expected that the first month, there would be a lot of automatic unsubscriptions, as the dead addresses were noted and removed, and then in subsequent months there might only be a trickle of automatic removals. To my surprise though, there has been a steady pattern of mass unsubscriptions each month, around 100-200 each month following the posted announcement. I'm not sure whether this is normal (if it is, unless the number of unsubscriptions begins to fall soon, I'll soon be left with no subscribers) or whether I'm doing something wrong. Here are my bounce processing settings: bounce_processing = Yes bounce_score_threshold = 4.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 65 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 10 Remembering that I only send out 1 or 2 emails every 30 days (give or take a couple of days in either direction), does this seem reasonable? Or is my bounce processing too strict? Thanks in advance, -- Steve

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digest setting
by Xie, Wei Dec. 19, 2014

Dec. 19, 2014

Mark, I have a question about two our digest settings - how do the two settings work. 1) How big in Kb should a digest be before it gets sent out? 0 implies no maximum size.(Edit digest_size_threshhold) 1000 My understanding when total size of posted messages reaches 1000KB, the digest volume will be sent out to all digest users; when the size does not reach 1000KB, the digest volume will not be sent. Maybe within one day, digest users can receive multiply issues with same volume number; maybe within one day, digest uses do not receive any digest email. 2) Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold isn't reached?(Edit digest_send_periodic) Yes The setting lets me confusing. When above size threshold 1000KB isn't reached within one day, will all digest users receive a digest or not? I do the tests - when size threshold is not reached, I can't receive digest volume every day. When size threshold is reached, I can receive multiply volumes within one day if I send enough many tests; or I can receive one digest volume with one day if I send emails over 1000KB; or I can receive one new digest volume within several days (How often should a new digest volume be started? Daily) if I send some small emails every day. One of customers wants to receive daily digest volume every day. How do we set the above two settings? Thanks, Carl

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Digest indexes
by Andrew Hodgson Dec. 19, 2014

Dec. 19, 2014

Hi, I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and a link be presented in the table of contents to go to each message. Can this be done in Mailman by working with the digest templates? Thanks. Andrew.

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Emergency moderation of all list traffic is set to 'Yes'
by Xie, Wei Dec. 18, 2014

Dec. 18, 2014

Mark, When Emergency moderation of all list traffic is set to 'Yes', all posted messages should be held for moderation. Should moderation notices be sent to all owners for moderation? We have one customer to set " Emergency moderation of all list traffic" to 'Yes', all posted messages are really held, but owners do not receive moderation notices. Is this normal? Our mailman version is 2.18rc3. Thanks, Carl Xie

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1-click subscription confirmation?
by Danil Smirnov Dec. 16, 2014

Dec. 16, 2014

Hi! Are there a way to let subscribers be subscribed to the list right after clicking on the link in address confirmation e-mail without second step - pushing button on subscription page? (I'm afraid some of them will not push this button thinking the're already subscribed...) Danil

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Too many Received-SPF headers
by Ian Dec. 16, 2014

Dec. 16, 2014

Hi, First time posting to this list. I have an interesting situation that I don't see anyone mention in the list archives, so I'm hoping someone can help me out. I maintain a server with a few domains. The server runs Plesk and Mailman. There are about 50 mailing lists with number of subscribers ranging from a couple people to a few hundred people. All work fine. There is an additional list with around 2500 subscribers. Messages sent to this list are being received with nearly 500 identical "Received-SPF: pass" lines. Besides seeming odd, it's particularly problematic as some domains are bouncing the emails because the header is too large. The SPF lines look like this > Received-SPF: pass (SERVER-HOSTNAME-HERE: localhost is always allowed.) > client-ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=BOUNCE-LIST-ADDRESS-HERE; > helo=SERVER-HOSTNAME-HERE; Where SERVER-HOSTNAME-HERE is our hostname and BOUNCE-LIST-ADDRESS-HERE is the list's bounce address. For what it's worth the server hostname and the domain of the list do not match. This issue seems to be tied to the number of subscribers. We made a new list with a few subscribers and messages looked fine. We added the 2500 subscribers to the list and we saw the plentiful Received-SPF: pass entries. Any ideas?? Thank you, Ian

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All AOL unsubscribed
by joseph cook Dec. 13, 2014

Dec. 13, 2014

This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were automatically unsubscribed from my list. Why today? I thought all the DMARC issues had been resolved in the latest mailman version, and it's been 8 months now since the changes at AOL. --Any suggestions? Joe C

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed
by Brian Carpenter Dec. 13, 2014

Dec. 13, 2014

Hi Joe: Are you using a hosted solution? If yes, then contact your host and ask them if they see any delivery problems to those AOL addresses in their SMTP logs. It is possible the server's IP address may be blocked by AOL or is suffering from a poor IP reputation. You might want to review your bounce settings within your list administration interface as the list is only handling bounces according to your settings. One final note, if mailman is part of a cPanel server then you can use the email trace tool within cPanel to see what is going on with those AOL addresses without the need of your host. Brian Carpenter Owner Providing Cloud and Mailman hosting Services T: 336.755.0685 E: brian(a)emwd.com www.emwd.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- > bounces+brian=emwd.com(a)python.org] On Behalf Of joseph cook > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:19 AM > To: Carl Zwanzig > Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [Mailman-Users] All AOL unsubscribed > > Yes, it is all aol.com addresses on my list and no others. > > 13 addresses in total. > > the "bounce log" (file: bounce) just says: > Date (10938) pac59: <address>@aol.com current bounce score: 5.0 > > The bounce count has been increasing since October is seems. > But I still don't know why. > > There are other messages in the log after the bounce count is exceeded > "Notifying disabled member <address>@aol.com for list: pac59 > > How do you get more information about *why* something bounced? What > message aol returned? Any other ideas? > > Joe Cook > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Carl Zwanzig <cpz(a)tuunq.com> wrote: > > > > On 12/12/2014 6:32 AM, joseph cook wrote: > > > >> This morning all of my subscribers with aol addresses were automatically > >> unsubscribed from my list. > >> > > > > Did you check the bounce log? The scores might have been creeping > upwards > > for weeks and just hit the threshold. > > > > z! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ > > joecook%40gmail.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman- > users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- > users/brian%40emwd.com

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