Mailman 3 December 2014 - Mailman-Users

Mailman handler to run sync_members
by Jon 1234 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

Would it be possible to implement a custom Mailman handler for this? If email is from a particular email address & to a particular list: - Create flat file from MySQL query - Run sync_members using that file - Email the email address detailing the changes made Before I try to reinvent the wheel - is there a script for this already out there? I've seen FAQ 4.67 but any other tips would be welcome. Thank you very much Jon

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive merge and search
by Hal 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

On 07/11/2014 19:42, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/07/2014 03:52 AM, Hal wrote: >> For not allowing text/html [snip] >> But does the above apply to *all* archived postings, or does it only >> filter anything that comes in from now on? > > > It applies to all posts that arrive after you make those settings, buth > in the archive and in the messages delivered to the list. It won't > affect messages already archived or in the mylist.mbox file, even if you > rebuild the archive. That's fine, but good to know for later. So for any new messages from now on I want my list to work this way: 1) HTML formatted postings should be converted to plain text before reaching other members. 2) HTML formatted postings can retain their formatting for the archive (I believe the archive is in the HTML format anyway?), but if it only archives whatever is sent to list members I don't mind. The important thing is that members receive plain text messages. 3) Since many people have their email programs set by default to send in HTML these days I just want Mailman to do its filtering, then continue by sending the posting as plain text without any moderator request or alerting the sender. 4) I'd like to block all attachements (list members should only receive plain text files). 40kb is already set for Max_message_size (in "General options" within the list administration web interface) which seems to have worked fine (as far as I know). Furthermore I understand that Filter_filename_extensions (in the "Content filtering" section) in addition removes any attachements based on specific filename *extensions* regardless of their file size? I see exe, bat, cmd and a bunch of other filetypes I've never heard of (geared towards Windows/DOS users I suppose -I'm a Mac user) are listed, but I suppose I could block .zip and those pesky .vcf/.vcard and "winmail.dat" files the same way. When such extensions are encountered, are they just removed from the messages while the message posting itself is passed on to list members, or is the whole posting stopped for approval first? I'm thinking out loud here, so feel free to chime in for better ideas, but I'm thinking there are two kind of attachement groups which need different actions to be taken: Deliberate attachements: zip files, gif/jpg images etc. which a poster wants to share. The message/attachement should be stopped from reaching the list and an email sent to the poster with a "your message has been blocked. Please resend your message, this time without an attachement" type of message. Accidental attachements: winmail.dat, .vcf or .vcard an so on. Many users don't know (as with HTML postings) that their email program is set up to send this stuff. IMHO those attachements don't have anything to do with the actual content of their postings, so Mailman should just remove the attachement(s), then pass on the rest of the message to the list. Having said that, have I understood things correctly by setting up my "Content filtering" options as follows? (based on what you've said and what I've read here: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030684): Edit_filter_content: YES Filter_mime_types: (left blank) Pass_mime_types: multipart message/rfc822 text/plain text/html filter_filename_ext.: exe bat cmd com pif scr vbs cpl zip dat vcf vcard pass_filename_ext.: (left blank) Collapse_alternatives: YES conv_html_to_plaintext: YES Filter_action: DISCARD >>> A different obfuscation for email addresses would require source code >>> modification. I.e., there's no 'plugin' for it. >> >> Is this a feature that could be suggested for the upcoming Mailman 3? >> Perhaps an optional user-configuration through the web admin interface? > > > Mailman 3 uses different and 'pluggable' archiving. The archiver that is > bundled with MM 3 is called Hyperkitty. I'm not sure what address > obfuscation it does. Thanks. I'll look into it. >> Failing that, is there a way I could have the (currently private) >> archive have a filter before HTTP access? > > You could create your own CGI or other web process to access the > archives and present them any way you want. Being ignorant on the subject, what kind of pre-written CGI script should I try to find (i.e. "search engine to web archive gateway" or something like that?). You previously suggested htdig (http://www.htdig.org/) with your patches for allowing my visitors to search through both the Mailman archives and my website. Assuming this is a more ready-to-use solution than the other search engines out there, are there features I will be missing out on (e.g. the ability to use CSS and Ajax for making its search results appear more in line with the rest of my website) and is it still secure? I've read that malicious code can sometimes be entered as search phrases and damage the database if the search engine isn't using "parametrized queries". I've found other search engines (Nutch, Lucene, Solr, Tipue search, Xapian and Ajax live search) but I have no idea if they're suitable for my use and how well they work or how difficult they are to set up. Opinions from anyone are highly appreciated. Thanks. Hal

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages
by Lindsay Haisley 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 09:36 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 12/8/2014 9:11 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > > For an announcement list, I would think this would be a problem only if > > he was posting _from_ an address that advertises a DMARC policy. > > you'd think so, but the sender is on well.com; all of the yahoo/hotmail/etc > addresses bounced and all the others were delivered. Circumstances being > what they are, it's not worth my time to figure this out, only need it for a > couple more weeks and a few more messages. Well, this is a matter of concern beyond your list, Carl, so I'm replying to the Mailman-users list in case someone else has knows something about this. well.com doesn't advertise a DMARC policy, so why would this be? Are we looking at something new here? A lot of us run announcement lists, or do so for our customers. Can we expect rejections from these ESPs too? Is well.com blacklisted in some other way? Or do yahoo/hotmail/etc filter in some other way that might bite even a legit CC or BCC list? Is there no safe harbor in this storm of misbegotten paranoia???? -- Lindsay Haisley | "The only unchanging certainty FMP Computer Services | is the certainty of change" 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com | - Ancient wisdom, all cultures

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Archive Viewing
by rex＠rexgoode.com 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

How soon after setting archive to yes should I see messages in the archive? I've had it set to yes for a couple of days but the archive is still empty.

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OS X Question --- yes I know <sigh>
by David Dodell 10 Dec '14

10 Dec '14

Hi, I know from past experience that the OS X version of Mailman is met with some contempt because of what Apple did with it .. but I have it working well for several years on a 10.7.5 Lion Server, and it has been very stable. However, I want to explore hosting some of the virtual domains I have setup on my server. Hosting multiple virtual domains without any issues, however want to start using mailman with some of those virtual domains. I saw this support article at: Mac OS X Server v10.6: Configuring the Mail service so Mailman can support virtual domains - Apple Support <http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT3878> but this is for 10.6 ... looks like it "might" work for 10.7 ... Paths look the same ... anyone have any ideas? If it does work, will mail from that mailing list show originated from the virtual, versus "real" domain? Thanks David

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Outgoing Runner won't start
by David Whitehurst 09 Dec '14

09 Dec '14

I’m having trouble getting outgoing runner to start. Basically, all the emails that I created for the list on Postfix and the actual list works fine, but the members aren’t getting email. The end of qrunner in <mailman>/logs/ shows that all runners started except outgoing runner. It tried 10 times and gave up. Can someone point me to where I can troubleshoot this or get it to run. SMTP internal is working and port is open from inside -> out. I don’t what to do next. Thanks, David David Whitehurst dlwhitehurst(a)me.com David L. Whitehurst about.me/dlwhitehurst <http://about.me/dlwhitehurst?promo=email_sig>

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Converting Subscribers from Digest to Nodigest
by Drew Tenenholz 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

Hi All -- I have just realized that a one list I manage has had the digest option when it should not have had this option enabled. Now, I have 873 (+15 private members) of over 9,000 total subscribers which apparently have selected the digest option. Is there a relatively simple way to convert these members over to 'nodigest'? Thanks, Drew Tenenholz P.S. There is a good reason for not allowing the digest option here. The list is announce-only, and this particular distribution list receives a one-weekly email which lists only the subject lines of all of the messages posted in the last week. Essentially, it is already a digest, and reducing the number of messages sent isn't really appropriate.

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unable to turn off send_reminders for one list
by Stan Reeves 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

I have one list configured not to send password reminders. I have verified the configuration by looking at the config.pck file, which shows: 'send_reminders': 0, However, this list is included in the reminders sent out, and I can't figure out what's wrong. Any suggestions? Stan

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Hot to eliminate Untitled Attachments?
by Brook Powers 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

Greetings, I have configured a listserv to support our non-profit. The Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 listserv is maintained by Hostgator.com, where we have our domain hosted. When sending to the list, I receive the email in Outlook 2013, with an attachment “Untitled attachment 00240.txt (342 B)” The attachment contains; “_______________________________________________ tech-comm mailing list tech-comm(a)listserv.domain.org http://listserv.domain.org/mailman/listinfo/tech-comm_listserv.domain.org” I understand this may be caused by sending the message in html (Outlooks native format), instead of sending it in plain text. Is there any way I can configure my hosted listserv to strip these unnecessary, “untitled attachments” if users send to the list in html? TIA

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Advantages
by rex＠rexgoode.com 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

I have been a long-time user of mailman and have been on many mailing lists. I am also part of a professional association of social workers that operate in my area. They have been using a list of addresses in a Cc field to manage their mailing list. I can't imagine anything more fraught with problems than that, but I can't convince these people to let me host a mailman mailing list for them. I can think of a lot of advantages myself, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen a good list somewhere. I'm a strange combination of software engineer and social worker, so I understand both worlds. My social worker colleagues tend to think of something like a mailing list as complicating things rather than simplifying them. I'm not necessarily asking for a discussion here, but I'd like some feedback on this. Viva Mailman! Rex Goode

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