Mailman 3 December 2016 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Find a smtp server to send out emails
by Leon Dec. 8, 2016

Dec. 8, 2016

Thanks, Adam. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Adam Goldberg <adam(a)agp-llc.com> wrote: > I use SES with Mailman. Just turn "munge from addresses" on, works fine. > The only address/domain you have to have verified is the -bounce address > > Adam Goldberg > 202-507-9900 <(202)%20507-9900> > > > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:07 PM -0500, "Leon" <best.sum(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, This problem is not caused by mailman, but I still want to give it a > shot here. I'm hosting a mailing list on top of mailman. Emails are > supposed to be sent out by AWS ses. However, ses requires that sender > address must be verified, which leads to a problem that emails sent by > subscribers to mailing list cannot be sent to other subcirbers, since their > addresses are not verified. And it is impossible to verified every > subscriber. Are there smtp service providers allowing unverified email > address to send out emails, or do I have other solutions? > > Thanks. > > > Leon > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ > adam%40agp-llc.com > -- Best wishes, Libin Feng

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Check subscribers' infornation
by Leon Dec. 6, 2016

Dec. 6, 2016

Hey. It only shows subscribers' email addresses on the subscriber list. Is there a page that shows theirs full information? -- Best wishes, Leon

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe Spam solution
by Mark Sapiro Dec. 6, 2016

Dec. 6, 2016

On 12/05/2016 06:12 PM, vince(a)vheuser.com wrote: > Nope. Clueless. -- Pure gambling. > So how do I block "subscribe spam". > Currently I am being inundated-- one every 4 minutes.. > Any suggestions appreciated. First, back out any changes you made from https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082746. Then put SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET = "some secret unique to your site" (replacing "some secret unique to your site" with your own secret string) in mm_cfg.py. This may or may not help much. The bots that have been attacking the python.org lists from time to time have figured out to GET the form first and delay before submitting it. The best we can do is use the GLOBAL_BAN_LIST feature implemented in 2.1.21, and without that put patterns in every list's ban_list. The latest one only lasted for a few days. the last few were blocked with patterns like '^.*k\.*e\.*m\.*o\.*m\.*a\.*r\.*t.*(a)gmail\.com', '^.*k\.*e\.*z\.*u\.*k\.*a\.*y\.*a.*(a)gmail\.com', '^.*s\.*u\.*n\.*i\.*b\.*e\.*e\.*s\.*t\.*a\.*r\.*s.*(a)gmail\.com', They tend to be a constant user name at gmail.com with all combinations of interspersed dots (which gmail ignores). There is a script at <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/add_banned.py> that can be used to add a pattern to all list's ban_list and a script at <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/erase> that can be used to remove all the pending subs, etc. for a pattern. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Subscribe Spam solution
by vince＠vheuser.com Dec. 6, 2016

Dec. 6, 2016

Trying to stop subscribe spam following Mark's instructions here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082746 When activated, I get this html on the listinfo page: "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs." And this is in the error log: admin(31878): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 117, in run_main admin(31878): main() admin(31878): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 65, in main admin(31878): list_listinfo(mlist, language) admin(31878): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 198, in list_listinfo admin(31878): mlist.internal_name() + admin(31878): TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'bool' and 'str' admin(31878): [----- Python Information -----] admin(31878): sys.version = 2.7.9 (default, Mar 1 2015, 18:22:53) [GCC 4.9.2] admin(31878): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(31878): sys.prefix = /usr admin(31878): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(31878): sys.path = ['/var/lib/mailman/pythonlib', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/mailman/scripts', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/python2.7/', '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-i386-linux-gnu', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages'] admin(31878): sys.platform = linux2 admin(31878): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(31878): HTTP_REFERER: http://lists.[redacted].com/ admin(31878): CONTEXT_DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo admin(31878): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) admin(31878): CONTEXT_PREFIX: /listinfo admin(31878): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) Server at lists.[redacted].com Port 80</address> admin(31878): admin(31878): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(31878): PATH_INFO: /action-list admin(31878): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(31878): QUERY_STRING: admin(31878): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 admin(31878): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(31878): SERVER_NAME: lists.[redacted].com admin(31878): REMOTE_ADDR: [redacted] admin(31878): PATH_TRANSLATED: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfoaction-list admin(31878): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(31878): SERVER_ADDR: [redacted] admin(31878): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/[redacted]/www/lists admin(31878): PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman admin(31878): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo admin(31878): SERVER_ADMIN: [no address given] admin(31878): HTTP_DNT: 1 admin(31878): HTTP_HOST: lists.[redacted].com admin(31878): SCRIPT_NAME: /listinfo admin(31878): HTTP_UPGRADE_INSECURE_REQUESTS: 1 admin(31878): HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: max-age=0 admin(31878): REQUEST_URI: /listinfo/action-list admin(31878): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(31878): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(31878): REMOTE_PORT: 1515 admin(31878): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-US,en;q=0.5 admin(31878): REQUEST_SCHEME: http admin(31878): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate I am new to Python I don't know how to verify whether the config change "mlist.hash_subscribe = True" actually happened. Is there a hash code in the listinfo page? Where is that? Anyone know what is wrong? Thanks! Vince H.

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I'm new to this list
by Jim Hopkins Dec. 3, 2016

Dec. 3, 2016

I’m in Education and recently moved mailman to a linux box. Now when I send a message to the list serve, I don’t receive the email and don’t know that it was sent. Is this correctable? I would appreciate any help on this issue. Thanks. Jim Hopkins

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Temporarily Disable a List
by Anilkumar Padmaraju Dec. 2, 2016

Dec. 2, 2016

What is the best way to temporarily disable a list in mailman. Later if needed want to enable back. Thank you, Anil.

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How to make forms use https, not http
by Brett Delmage Dec. 2, 2016

Dec. 2, 2016

I cannot find where to change admin pages to use https on submission instead of http. My config: Mailman version 2.1.20 on Ubuntu 16.04 /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py was changed to DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/' A config_list dump for the list doesn't show any relevant http that should be changed to https, unless I am missing this. I switched the list to https after being created IIRC (after I got the SSL certs installed and working) The admin pages display correctly in https, but FORM action still submits to a "http" list URL according to the page html source. What am I missing? Thanks! Brett

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munging the To: line?
by Joe Pfeiffer Dec. 1, 2016

Dec. 1, 2016

I've searched the archives and the FAQs; if I've missed something please point me to it. I've got From: munging turned on, so posts to a list I administer come "from" addresses like John Smith via mylist <mylist(a)example.com> Frequently, list users will post to the list by replying to a previous message, and I'll end up getting a message with a To: header like To: John Smith via mylist <mylist(a)example.com> and it goes out to the list with that To: header. Since this can be confusing, I'd like to munge the To: line as it comes through so it ends up saying To: My List <mylist(a)example.com> Is there a way to do this through standard configuration options (and how?), or do I need to write a handler? -- Joe Pfeiffer 575.525.2764 (H) 1440 Tierra del Sol Dr 575.496.3501 (C) Las Cruces, NM 88007-5548

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subscribers being unsubscribed at wrong time based on bounce settings.
by Christopher Adams Dec. 1, 2016

Dec. 1, 2016

Hello, I have done some fairly extensive examination of logs and list settings for one of the lists hosted here, and I can't come up with a sensible explanation to tell a customer. The list is set to not send messages when a person unsubscribes. The bounce settings are set so that 2 warning messages are sent after the address is disabled and those messages should be 7 days apart. A message was sent to the list on 11/1. I see in the logs that a substantial number of addresses reached the bounce limit and were disabled. So, based on the bounce settings, many of these should have been unsubscribed 14 days later. They were not. However, on 11/24, there was a mass unsubscribe of addresses that had been disabled. Additionally, many (including some that turned out to have valid addresses) received unsubscribe notices. I tend to think that these are not related, but are two issues that I have not been able to explain. Many thanks, Christopher Adams

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Time needed to deliver list messages
by Christian F Buser Dec. 1, 2016

Dec. 1, 2016

Hi all Our lists run on a cPanel installation of Mailman (cPanel version 60.0.25, Mailman version 2.1.23). Messages sent to the list take some long time to be delivered to the subscribers - in the best case it is about 10 minutes, but it can take up to over 40 minutes. We asked our provider about it, and he tried to finetune some settings on the server - so far without success. He said he also contacted cPanel support and their response was "this is normal - there is nothing they can do about it", he said. My question to all who run Mailman on cPanel: Is it true? Are you also experiencing delivery delays? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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