Mailman 3 February 2018 - Mailman-Users

changing domains on Mailman implementation
by Keith Seyffarth Sept. 20, 2018

Sept. 20, 2018

Is there an efficient way to change the domain name that mailman is affiliated with? I have two mailing lists that were created for an organization before that organization had their own domain. At the time the organization was sure they did not want their own domain and would not be getting a domain. Since then, they have chosen to get a domain and set up a web site. I would like to move their mailing lists onto their domain. It looks like the process for this is: 1) get the list of subscribers 2) delete the mailing list from the one domain (losing the archives) 3) create the mailing list on the new domain 4) subscribe the list of subscribers This process doesn't seem too difficult, but I would prefer to keep the archives, if possible. Both domains are on the same server, running CentOS7 and PLESK 12.5, if that makes a difference. Thanks, Keith

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Spam Subscriptions
by David Andrews June 4, 2018

June 4, 2018

I have a mailman installation with over 300 lists. It is cPanel, but I am the administrator so have access to command line etc. I have just two lists that receive a bunch of spam subscribes each day -- hundreds of them, in fact. For some reason -- which is good, they are held, so don't go through, not quite sure why. Two questions -- first is there a file I can erase for each list that will get rid of all the held subscriptions, without breaking anything else. I tried once, and my installation broke -- don't know if it is related, but don't want to try again unless I do it right. Secondly, there is some commonality in the subscribe addresses, are there strings I can use to discard the subscribes so I never have to see them. Below are examples, there is a common word, or a common word, a period ., and another common word, then a plus sign + then a 4 5 or 6 character word, all alpha, and @gmail.com Here are examples: dragonommz+ jwmidnight+ nommz.naidoo+ If I could knock these out, it would be helpful. This has happened several times previously, but has always stopped after a few weeks. This time it has been a couple months. Finally, I know it is probably too late in the Mailman2 cycle to get a new feature, but in the web UI, it would be nice if you could delete all deferred subscriptions. You can do so with deferred messages, that are held, but not subscriptions. Thanks! Dave

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two problems with Mailman 2.1
by Dave Stevens March 26, 2018

March 26, 2018

I?m having a couple of problems with a Mailman 2.1 list. I want to add several addresses as new subscribers so as a first step I added one of them using the mass subscription facility in membership management. Mailman accepted the data but when I subsequently checked the subscriber list it wasn?t there. This has been the case for two days now. Today I checked manually that the recipient address was in fact working and decided to resubscribe using the same method. I enter the data in the text box (I?ve done this several times) then click on the "submit your changes" button below and get this message, ?Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check)? This happens without any special delay on my part, not more than a few minutes. Please advise. Dave -- "As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance." -- John Dewey

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Mailman 2 and read notifications
by Carlos R. Pasqualini March 18, 2018

March 18, 2018

Hi list I see a blank response from a list's email from a user ho say he did not sent any response. It seems like an automatic response to a read confirmation, but this response was sent to many lists on our server (triggering moderation alerts on the other lists, and my attention). Is it possible that the original sender set the 'confirmation request' on the MUA and that request propagated past mailman and got into receiver's MUA? If yes: Is there a way to intercept and delete these requests on the Mailman host? Using mailman from Debian 8: 2.1.18-2+deb8u2 Thanks!! -- Carlos Pasqualini Administración de Redes Facultad de Ciencias de la Alimentación Universidad Nacional de Entre Ríos http://www.fcal.uner.edu.ar/

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Stuck OutgoingRunner
by Sebastian Hagedorn March 16, 2018

March 16, 2018

Hi, we've been running Mailman for many years and have never had stability issues, but about a month ago we moved the server from RHEL 5 to RHEL 6 and to the current version (2.1.25), and since then it has already happened twice that one of our four OutgoingRunners got "stuck" and stopped handling mail. When that happens a simple restart of the service does not work. These processes remained: mailman 1663 0.0 0.0 233860 2204 ? Ss Jan16 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 1677 0.1 0.9 295064 73284 ? S Jan16 35:35 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:3:4 -s root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ strace -p 1677 Process 1677 attached recvfrom(10, ^CProcess 1677 detached [root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ lsof -p 1677 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME python2.7 1677 mailman cwd DIR 253,0 4096 173998 /usr/lib/mailman python2.7 1677 mailman rtd DIR 253,0 4096 2 / ... python2.7 1677 mailman 10u IPv6 46441320 0t0 TCP mailman3.rrz.uni-koeln.de:55764->smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de:smtp (ESTABLISHED) In both instances the OutgoingRunner was stuck on an SMTP connection. I had to use "kill -9" to get rid of it. Any ideas what might be causing that? Cheers Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:.

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spam discard expressions
by Jim Dory March 8, 2018

March 8, 2018

Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklists don't have any effect. So I've discovered the filters offered in Mailman after being completely buried by spammers trying to post to our subscriber only list. I've started putting these in Sender Filters: ^[^@]+@bcira\.com$ ^[^@]+@airablo\.com$ ^[^@]+@bfklaw\.com$ ^[^@]+@bettella\.com$ ^[^@]+@areallycool\.com$ ^[^@]+@aristo-tec\.com$ ^[^@]+@benallgood\.com$ ^[^@]+@al-meshkah\.com$ ^[^@]+@atoccs\.stream$ ^[^@]+@authors\.com$ ^[^@]+@aulson\.com$ ^[^@]+@atmyx\.bid$ ^[^@]+@airtecperforms\.com$ but what is the syntax for blocking domains ending in .loan .stream .trade etc, other than .com. I've been reading up on python expressions but at first reading it is a bit overwhelming - hoping for a simple example. I've also started adding in words under Spam filters such as: ^Subject: .*Phentermine ^Subject: .*F\*buddy ^Subject: .*H00kup ^Subject: .*InstaF\*ck ^Subject: .*Instacheat Wondering if anyone would care to share their lists of filters - or a good resource? thanks, Jim

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Issues w/ subscribe/reCAPTCHA v2 on Mailman 2.1.26
by Dave Pascoe March 1, 2018

March 1, 2018

Just upgraded to Mailman 2.1.26 on a CentOS 5.11 system (yeah, I know....this is a legacy box and will be migrating to a newer OS soon). I'm trying to enable reCAPTCHA v2 support. I've defined: RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY = '...' RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY = '...' in mm_cfg.py. I keep getting the exception shown below when testing out the subscribe function. The only way to get subscribe working again is to comment out the reCAPTCHA code in subscribe.py and commenting out RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY and RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY in mm_cfg.py. Any ideas? TIA, Dave =============================================== admin(5122): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.26 -----] admin(5122): [----- Traceback ------] admin(5122): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(5122): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 102, in run_main admin(5122): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), [scriptname]) admin(5122): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 154 except urllib2.URLError as e: ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax admin(5122): [----- Python Information -----] admin(5122): sys.version = 2.4.3 (#1, Jan 9 2013, 06:49:54) [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-54)] admin(5122): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(5122): sys.prefix = /usr admin(5122): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(5122): sys.path = ['/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib', '/usr/local/mailman', '/usr/local/mailman/scripts', '/usr/local/mailman', '/usr/lib/python24.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.4/', '/usr/lib/python2.4/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.4/dist-packages'] admin(5122): sys.platform = linux2

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preserve html and allow attachements
by Tammy Mitchell Feb. 27, 2018

Feb. 27, 2018

Hi, I've been reading posts I find through google searches to try to solve this. I can't seem to find the correct settings. -I'm trying to allow html email, with attachments of photos and .pdfs. -I'd also like my archives to look like the email people get. Right now it looks like text with code. The html is staying raw, filled with the code, it is not rendering properly. My attachements are still all being scrubbed. -I guess I'd like the archive messages to show as rendered html, with a link to any attachments that were included in the mail. -I would like the default view of my archives to be set to Thread. I've gotten this far: I am allowing html email to go to my list and that is working well. Last week, I had it working so attachments would go with the email. That was working. It is not now, since I made the changes described below: Today I read instructions, on this page, and changed the settings as advised here. https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20preserve%20HTML%20formatting%20whi… Changed the settings as described in that link. I thought it would allow my archives to look like rendered html. (nope). - also now my attachments are not being sent with the email messages as they had been. I'm in a plesk environment so I don't have access to the mail Mailman files. I might be able to ask my administrator if he'd change some files if needed. My archives are at: http://lists.cotyrone.com/pipermail/ulsterancestry/ Do you suggest the easiest thing for me to do, would be to set my own list up at: https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=preserve+html+and+allow+attachements&… Also, should I be asking my server admin to upgrade me to Mailman 3.x at this time, since my list is new. How hard would that be for him to install, and keep up to date in the Plesk environment? I thank you in advance. Tammy Mitchell

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Mailman would not start after upgrade to 2.1.26
by Amardeo Sarma Feb. 25, 2018

Feb. 25, 2018

Hi, After upgrading to Mailman 2.1.26 via ports in FreeBSD 11.1 and a reboot of the server, I just could not start Mailman at all. It would not indicate any error. The Mailman logs here: /usr/local/mailman/logs did not record anything. On second looks, I found that, after the upgrade, the write permissions for all logs under /usr/local/mailman/ logs had been removed. All log files had only read permissions for user and group. After adding write permissions (chmod 660 *) to all log files, I could restart Mailman again, and everything works again. I am not sure this has happened before but just wanted to send this note to the list for the record just in case it is a problem no one had before. And I am sorry if I am reporting a solution to a well-known problem. Does anyone have an idea what could have changed the write permissions for the logs during an upgrade? I use portmaster under FreeBSD. Cheers, Amardeo P.S.: I was subscribed before and have resubscribed now. -- Amardeo Sarma sarma(a)gwup.org @amardeo

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Debugging user unknown
by Alexander Feb. 22, 2018

Feb. 22, 2018

G'day all, I am trying to setup mailman on my linux server running postfix and virtual host integration. So far I have updated main.cf to include: alias_database = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases virtual_alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman, pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman Ran genaliases to create /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases and /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman which seem to contain the correct settings However emails to mailmain@domain and list-staff@domain are bounced with unknown user: Feb 17 22:01:32 tinyturtle postfix/virtual[1404]: 5F4DE460402: to=<mailman(a)XXX.com>, relay=virtual, delay=0.12, delays=0.04/0/0/0.09, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "mailman(a)XXX.com") Feb 17 22:06:18 tinyturtle postfix/virtual[1731]: 3D12D460402: to=<list-staff(a)XXX.com>, relay=virtual, delay=0.08, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.04, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "list-staff(a)XXX.com") Since postfix/virtual is doing the bouncing I am suspected that the mapping (virtual-mailman) was picked up, and that i cannot find the mapping in aliases, but I could be wrong here. I have also run newaliases to ensure the local aliases are updated, but this did not resolve this issue. Any pointers on what else to do, to help me debug my configuration. Kind regards Alex

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