Mailman-Users February 2018

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29 discussions

Stuck OutgoingRunner
by Sebastian Hagedorn 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

Hi, we've been running Mailman for many years and have never had stability issues, but about a month ago we moved the server from RHEL 5 to RHEL 6 and to the current version (2.1.25), and since then it has already happened twice that one of our four OutgoingRunners got "stuck" and stopped handling mail. When that happens a simple restart of the service does not work. These processes remained: mailman 1663 0.0 0.0 233860 2204 ? Ss Jan16 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 1677 0.1 0.9 295064 73284 ? S Jan16 35:35 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:3:4 -s root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ strace -p 1677 Process 1677 attached recvfrom(10, ^CProcess 1677 detached [root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ lsof -p 1677 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME python2.7 1677 mailman cwd DIR 253,0 4096 173998 /usr/lib/mailman python2.7 1677 mailman rtd DIR 253,0 4096 2 / ... python2.7 1677 mailman 10u IPv6 46441320 0t0 TCP mailman3.rrz.uni-koeln.de:55764->smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de:smtp (ESTABLISHED) In both instances the OutgoingRunner was stuck on an SMTP connection. I had to use "kill -9" to get rid of it. Any ideas what might be causing that? Cheers Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:.

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spam discard expressions
by Jim Dory 08 Mar '18

08 Mar '18

Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklists don't have any effect. So I've discovered the filters offered in Mailman after being completely buried by spammers trying to post to our subscriber only list. I've started putting these in Sender Filters: ^[^@]+@bcira\.com$ ^[^@]+@airablo\.com$ ^[^@]+@bfklaw\.com$ ^[^@]+@bettella\.com$ ^[^@]+@areallycool\.com$ ^[^@]+@aristo-tec\.com$ ^[^@]+@benallgood\.com$ ^[^@]+@al-meshkah\.com$ ^[^@]+@atoccs\.stream$ ^[^@]+@authors\.com$ ^[^@]+@aulson\.com$ ^[^@]+@atmyx\.bid$ ^[^@]+@airtecperforms\.com$ but what is the syntax for blocking domains ending in .loan .stream .trade etc, other than .com. I've been reading up on python expressions but at first reading it is a bit overwhelming - hoping for a simple example. I've also started adding in words under Spam filters such as: ^Subject: .*Phentermine ^Subject: .*F\*buddy ^Subject: .*H00kup ^Subject: .*InstaF\*ck ^Subject: .*Instacheat Wondering if anyone would care to share their lists of filters - or a good resource? thanks, Jim

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Issues w/ subscribe/reCAPTCHA v2 on Mailman 2.1.26
by Dave Pascoe 01 Mar '18

01 Mar '18

Just upgraded to Mailman 2.1.26 on a CentOS 5.11 system (yeah, I know....this is a legacy box and will be migrating to a newer OS soon). I'm trying to enable reCAPTCHA v2 support. I've defined: RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY = '...' RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY = '...' in mm_cfg.py. I keep getting the exception shown below when testing out the subscribe function. The only way to get subscribe working again is to comment out the reCAPTCHA code in subscribe.py and commenting out RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY and RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY in mm_cfg.py. Any ideas? TIA, Dave =============================================== admin(5122): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.26 -----] admin(5122): [----- Traceback ------] admin(5122): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(5122): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 102, in run_main admin(5122): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), [scriptname]) admin(5122): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 154 except urllib2.URLError as e: ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax admin(5122): [----- Python Information -----] admin(5122): sys.version = 2.4.3 (#1, Jan 9 2013, 06:49:54) [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-54)] admin(5122): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(5122): sys.prefix = /usr admin(5122): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(5122): sys.path = ['/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib', '/usr/local/mailman', '/usr/local/mailman/scripts', '/usr/local/mailman', '/usr/lib/python24.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.4/', '/usr/lib/python2.4/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.4/dist-packages'] admin(5122): sys.platform = linux2

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preserve html and allow attachements
by Tammy Mitchell 27 Feb '18

27 Feb '18

Hi, I've been reading posts I find through google searches to try to solve this. I can't seem to find the correct settings. -I'm trying to allow html email, with attachments of photos and .pdfs. -I'd also like my archives to look like the email people get. Right now it looks like text with code. The html is staying raw, filled with the code, it is not rendering properly. My attachements are still all being scrubbed. -I guess I'd like the archive messages to show as rendered html, with a link to any attachments that were included in the mail. -I would like the default view of my archives to be set to Thread. I've gotten this far: I am allowing html email to go to my list and that is working well. Last week, I had it working so attachments would go with the email. That was working. It is not now, since I made the changes described below: Today I read instructions, on this page, and changed the settings as advised here. https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20preserve%20HTML%20formatting%20whi… Changed the settings as described in that link. I thought it would allow my archives to look like rendered html. (nope). - also now my attachments are not being sent with the email messages as they had been. I'm in a plesk environment so I don't have access to the mail Mailman files. I might be able to ask my administrator if he'd change some files if needed. My archives are at: http://lists.cotyrone.com/pipermail/ulsterancestry/ Do you suggest the easiest thing for me to do, would be to set my own list up at: https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=preserve+html+and+allow+attachements&… Also, should I be asking my server admin to upgrade me to Mailman 3.x at this time, since my list is new. How hard would that be for him to install, and keep up to date in the Plesk environment? I thank you in advance. Tammy Mitchell

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Mailman would not start after upgrade to 2.1.26
by Amardeo Sarma 25 Feb '18

25 Feb '18

Hi, After upgrading to Mailman 2.1.26 via ports in FreeBSD 11.1 and a reboot of the server, I just could not start Mailman at all. It would not indicate any error. The Mailman logs here: /usr/local/mailman/logs did not record anything. On second looks, I found that, after the upgrade, the write permissions for all logs under /usr/local/mailman/ logs had been removed. All log files had only read permissions for user and group. After adding write permissions (chmod 660 *) to all log files, I could restart Mailman again, and everything works again. I am not sure this has happened before but just wanted to send this note to the list for the record just in case it is a problem no one had before. And I am sorry if I am reporting a solution to a well-known problem. Does anyone have an idea what could have changed the write permissions for the logs during an upgrade? I use portmaster under FreeBSD. Cheers, Amardeo P.S.: I was subscribed before and have resubscribed now. -- Amardeo Sarma sarma(a)gwup.org @amardeo

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Debugging user unknown
by Alexander 22 Feb '18

22 Feb '18

G'day all, I am trying to setup mailman on my linux server running postfix and virtual host integration. So far I have updated main.cf to include: alias_database = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases virtual_alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman, pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman Ran genaliases to create /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases and /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman which seem to contain the correct settings However emails to mailmain@domain and list-staff@domain are bounced with unknown user: Feb 17 22:01:32 tinyturtle postfix/virtual[1404]: 5F4DE460402: to=<mailman(a)XXX.com>, relay=virtual, delay=0.12, delays=0.04/0/0/0.09, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "mailman(a)XXX.com") Feb 17 22:06:18 tinyturtle postfix/virtual[1731]: 3D12D460402: to=<list-staff(a)XXX.com>, relay=virtual, delay=0.08, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.04, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "list-staff(a)XXX.com") Since postfix/virtual is doing the bouncing I am suspected that the mapping (virtual-mailman) was picked up, and that i cannot find the mapping in aliases, but I could be wrong here. I have also run newaliases to ensure the local aliases are updated, but this did not resolve this issue. Any pointers on what else to do, to help me debug my configuration. Kind regards Alex

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Settings for dmarc_moderation_action
by Dang Tran 21 Feb '18

21 Feb '18

I'm looking for the settings location of dmarc_moderation_action. All my lists are currently set to Accept. I'd like to change to Munge From. Where can I find this settings and more importantly, how do I change this? thanks ------- Best Regards, Dang

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messages getting auto discarded
by Jim Dory 17 Feb '18

17 Feb '18

I've gotten a ton of spam directed at our mailing list so I set up some auto discard filters. Unfortunately I don't know regular expressions so may have misconfigured - result is some seemingly valid messages getting discarded (could be different reason than my filters). A couple yesterday were from un-subscribed users. but usually I get a bounce saying it is held for moderation.. though not in this case. I don't always check the auto discard messages because of the number of them, but a registered user sent an email that never showed up as a bounce (held for moderation) or as accepted, so I assume it was auto discarded as well. Here's my filter config for subject: ^Subject: .*Phentermine ^Subject: .*F\*ckbuddy ^Subject: .*H00kup ^Subject: .*InstaF\*ck ^Subject: .*Instacheat ^Subject: .*$dating$* ^Subject: .*Larisa ^Subject: .*Viagra ^Subject: .*on line* ^Subject: .*pills ^Subject: .*Cialis ^Subject: .*Yulia ^Subject: .*rewarded ^Subject: .*viagra ^Subject: .*Orgasm ^Subject: .*Russia ^Subject: .*my gentle sun* ^Subject: .*Good day to you* ^Subject: .*Do.not.write.me* ^Subject: .*Casino ^Subject: .*Your invoice* ^Subject: .*Re\:Hey* ^Subject: .*Ukraine ^Subject: .*Re\:You ^Subject: .*Wives ^Subject: .*PowerPack ^Subject: .*our.communication* ^Subject: .*easy.money* ^Subject: .*Live.Chat* ^Subject: .*Games.and.profits* ^Subject: .*new.message* ^Subject: .*\?\?\?\?* ^Subject: .*SuperDiscount ^Subject: .*Easily.Earn* ^Subject: .*help.you.earn* ^Subject: .*let\'s.chat* ^Subject: .*I.am.on\-line* ^Subject: .*Making.\$* ^Subject: .*$on\-line.now$ ^Subject: .*Xenical ^Subject: .*cure.yourself ^Subject: .*celexa ^Subject: .*binary.options ^Subject: .*Re\:.don\'t ^Subject: .*effective.tabs ^Subject: .*ED\! ^Subject: .*lexapro ^Subject: .*big.deal\! ^Subject: .*your.vigor ^Subject: .*boner ^Subject: .*medications ^Subject: .*buy.meds ^Subject: .*lasting.erection ^Subject: .*RE\:.Pure ^Subject: .*pure.joy ^Subject: .*hey\! ^Subject: .*online.trade ^Subject: .*ED.remedy ^Subject: .*answer\! ^Subject: .*best.meds ^Subject: .*powerful.meds ^Subject: .*start.trading ^Subject: .*RE\:.Now ^Subject: .*RE\:.loan ^Subject: .*sex ^Subject: .*fantasies ^Subject: .*make.money ^Subject: .*your.depression ^Subject: .*antidepressant ^Subject: .*impotence ^Subject: .*anti.depression ^Subject: .*our.portal ^Subject: .*without.depression ^Subject: .*bright.life ^Subject: .*amorous and legacy: # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: friend(a)public.com message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: list(a)listme.com from: .*(a)uplinkpro.com and email: ^[^@]+@bcira\.com$ ^[^@]+@airablo\.com$ ^[^@]+@bfklaw\.com$ ^[^@]+@bettella\.com$ ^[^@]+@areallycool\.com$ ^[^@]+@aristo-tec\.com$ ^[^@]+@benallgood\.com$ ^[^@]+@al-meshkah\.com$ ^[^@]+@atoccs\.stream$ ^[^@]+@authors\.com$ ^[^@]+@aulson\.com$ ^[^@]+@atmyx\.bid$ ^[^@]+@airtecperforms\.com$ vmservice(a)nomekennelclub.com ^[^@]+@.+\.loan$ ^[^@]+@.+\.stream$ ^[^@]+@.+\.trade$ ^[^@]+@.+\.bid$ ^[^@]+@.+\.cn$ ^[^@]+@postingmuscle\.com$ ^[^@]+@adirondack\.net$ ^[^@]+@bicycleexpertwitness\.com$ ^[^@]+@allpoetry\.com$ ^[^@]+@autecsafety\.com$ ^[^@]+@proshred\.com$ ^[^@]+@archangel-films\.com$ ^[^@]+@alansphotos\.com$ ^[^@]+@agoprofil\.com$ ^[^@]+@readytech\.com$ ^[^@]+@blakecarrington\.com$ ^[^@]+@bigcatcafe\.com$ ^[^@]+@biovectra\.com$ ^[^@]+@blueridgeknives\.com$ ^[^@]+@akarenga\.com$ ^[^@]+@appetez\.com$ ^[^@]+@angelaortiz\.com$ ^[^@]+@agridfencing\.com$ ^[^@]+@blumenstetter-bindesysteme\.com$ ^[^@]+@alienwebhost\.com$ ^[^@]+@barkingcafe\.com$ ^[^@]+@babynamegenie\.com$ ^[^@]+@bluechick\.com$ ^[^@]+@bienenstock\.com$ ^[^@]+@askwith\.com$ ^[^@]+@bespoke-fp\.com$ ^[^@]+@alcoa\.com$ ^[^@]+@fotolia\.com$ ^[^@]+@betsonenterprises\.com$ ^[^@]+@argentinosonline\.com$ ^[^@]+@adeptus\.com$ dgimmingan(a)gci.net ^[^@]+@andover-healthcare\.com$ ^[^@]+@bearablemoments\.com$ ^[^@]+@avexnet\.com$ ^[^@]+@avidnano\.com$ ^[^@]+@amcarco\.com$ ^[^@]+@biyougeka-kensakuya\.com$ ^[^@]+@albawardi\.com$ ^[^@]+@barrao\.com$ ^[^@]+@affordableweddinggown\.com$ ^[^@]+@barshield\.com$ ^[^@]+@autographink\.com$ ^[^@]+@blankethealthinsurance\.com$ ^[^@]+@alfredojunior\.com$ ^[^@]+@marketingautomationtools\.org$ ^[^@]+@wexonex\.com$ ^[^@]+@bargedirect\.com$ ^[^@]+@blacktoastintolerance\.com$ ^[^@]+@bada-bing\.com$ ^[^@]+@africanews\.com$ ^[^@]+@marketplace\.amazon\.co\.uk$ ^[^@]+@blazingworld\.com$ ^[^@]+@csu\.edu$ ^[^@]+@artecollezione\.com$ ^[^@]+@billupsdesign\.com$ ^[^@]+@art4sale\.com$ ^[^@]+@bdwt\.com$ ^[^@]+@architechies\.com$ ^[^@]+@banklife\.comfe\.com$ ^[^@]+@aveek\.com$ ^[^@]+@adweek\.com$ ^[^@]+@allendistribution\.com$ ^[^@]+@1800radiator\.com$ ^[^@]+@alarabiaco\.com$ ^[^@]+@boldconcepts\.com$ ^[^@]+@andersonvaluationgroup\.com$ ^[^@]+@armandbasi\.com$ ^[^@]+@arastra\.com$ ^[^@]+@arcticspassaskatoon\.com$ ^[^@]+@aubreynorris\.com$ ^[^@]+@bctc\-lb\.com$ ^[^@]+@alongtheway\.com$ ^[^@]+@espbs\.net$ ^[^@]+@allthingsdigital\.com$ ^[^@]+@adinfocenter\.com$ ^[^@]+@arabize\.com$ ^[^@]+@giesting\.com$ ^[^@]+@.+\.co\.nz$ ^[^@]+@morebusinesswithfacebook\.com$ ^[^@]+@.+\.de$ ^[^@]+@.+\.ru$ ^[^@]+@.+\.ca$ ^parsons(a)nome\.net$ The subject on one discarded msg was (from unsubscribed user - just used wrong email): MEDITATION! RURAL BUSINESS FINANCE! Register today. And another subject same situation: SPARC MEETING Message sources didn't give me any clues, but I could provide one if it would help. thx, JD

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a silly question :-)
by Dr. Alberto Barengols 15 Feb '18

15 Feb '18

A very silly question: In the configuration web page, where is the variable to configure the automatic reminder of the subscription to a list? Thanks in advance,-A //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Is there an option to allow open Unsubscriptions
by Montanez, Victor 13 Feb '18

13 Feb '18

Is there a way to allow users to unsubscribe themselves without having to respond to the unsubscribe confirmation email?

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