Mailman 3 February 2018 - Mailman-Users

messages getting auto discarded
by Jim Dory 17 Feb '18

17 Feb '18

I've gotten a ton of spam directed at our mailing list so I set up some auto discard filters. Unfortunately I don't know regular expressions so may have misconfigured - result is some seemingly valid messages getting discarded (could be different reason than my filters). A couple yesterday were from un-subscribed users. but usually I get a bounce saying it is held for moderation.. though not in this case. I don't always check the auto discard messages because of the number of them, but a registered user sent an email that never showed up as a bounce (held for moderation) or as accepted, so I assume it was auto discarded as well. Here's my filter config for subject: ^Subject: .*Phentermine ^Subject: .*F\*ckbuddy ^Subject: .*H00kup ^Subject: .*InstaF\*ck ^Subject: .*Instacheat ^Subject: .*$dating$* ^Subject: .*Larisa ^Subject: .*Viagra ^Subject: .*on line* ^Subject: .*pills ^Subject: .*Cialis ^Subject: .*Yulia ^Subject: .*rewarded ^Subject: .*viagra ^Subject: .*Orgasm ^Subject: .*Russia ^Subject: .*my gentle sun* ^Subject: .*Good day to you* ^Subject: .*Do.not.write.me* ^Subject: .*Casino ^Subject: .*Your invoice* ^Subject: .*Re\:Hey* ^Subject: .*Ukraine ^Subject: .*Re\:You ^Subject: .*Wives ^Subject: .*PowerPack ^Subject: .*our.communication* ^Subject: .*easy.money* ^Subject: .*Live.Chat* ^Subject: .*Games.and.profits* ^Subject: .*new.message* ^Subject: .*\?\?\?\?* ^Subject: .*SuperDiscount ^Subject: .*Easily.Earn* ^Subject: .*help.you.earn* ^Subject: .*let\'s.chat* ^Subject: .*I.am.on\-line* ^Subject: .*Making.\$* ^Subject: .*$on\-line.now$ ^Subject: .*Xenical ^Subject: .*cure.yourself ^Subject: .*celexa ^Subject: .*binary.options ^Subject: .*Re\:.don\'t ^Subject: .*effective.tabs ^Subject: .*ED\! ^Subject: .*lexapro ^Subject: .*big.deal\! ^Subject: .*your.vigor ^Subject: .*boner ^Subject: .*medications ^Subject: .*buy.meds ^Subject: .*lasting.erection ^Subject: .*RE\:.Pure ^Subject: .*pure.joy ^Subject: .*hey\! ^Subject: .*online.trade ^Subject: .*ED.remedy ^Subject: .*answer\! ^Subject: .*best.meds ^Subject: .*powerful.meds ^Subject: .*start.trading ^Subject: .*RE\:.Now ^Subject: .*RE\:.loan ^Subject: .*sex ^Subject: .*fantasies ^Subject: .*make.money ^Subject: .*your.depression ^Subject: .*antidepressant ^Subject: .*impotence ^Subject: .*anti.depression ^Subject: .*our.portal ^Subject: .*without.depression ^Subject: .*bright.life ^Subject: .*amorous and legacy: # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: friend(a)public.com message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: list(a)listme.com from: .*(a)uplinkpro.com and email: ^[^@]+@bcira\.com$ ^[^@]+@airablo\.com$ ^[^@]+@bfklaw\.com$ ^[^@]+@bettella\.com$ ^[^@]+@areallycool\.com$ ^[^@]+@aristo-tec\.com$ ^[^@]+@benallgood\.com$ ^[^@]+@al-meshkah\.com$ ^[^@]+@atoccs\.stream$ ^[^@]+@authors\.com$ ^[^@]+@aulson\.com$ ^[^@]+@atmyx\.bid$ ^[^@]+@airtecperforms\.com$ vmservice(a)nomekennelclub.com ^[^@]+@.+\.loan$ ^[^@]+@.+\.stream$ ^[^@]+@.+\.trade$ ^[^@]+@.+\.bid$ ^[^@]+@.+\.cn$ ^[^@]+@postingmuscle\.com$ ^[^@]+@adirondack\.net$ ^[^@]+@bicycleexpertwitness\.com$ ^[^@]+@allpoetry\.com$ ^[^@]+@autecsafety\.com$ ^[^@]+@proshred\.com$ ^[^@]+@archangel-films\.com$ ^[^@]+@alansphotos\.com$ ^[^@]+@agoprofil\.com$ ^[^@]+@readytech\.com$ ^[^@]+@blakecarrington\.com$ ^[^@]+@bigcatcafe\.com$ ^[^@]+@biovectra\.com$ ^[^@]+@blueridgeknives\.com$ ^[^@]+@akarenga\.com$ ^[^@]+@appetez\.com$ ^[^@]+@angelaortiz\.com$ ^[^@]+@agridfencing\.com$ ^[^@]+@blumenstetter-bindesysteme\.com$ ^[^@]+@alienwebhost\.com$ ^[^@]+@barkingcafe\.com$ ^[^@]+@babynamegenie\.com$ ^[^@]+@bluechick\.com$ ^[^@]+@bienenstock\.com$ ^[^@]+@askwith\.com$ ^[^@]+@bespoke-fp\.com$ ^[^@]+@alcoa\.com$ ^[^@]+@fotolia\.com$ ^[^@]+@betsonenterprises\.com$ ^[^@]+@argentinosonline\.com$ ^[^@]+@adeptus\.com$ dgimmingan(a)gci.net ^[^@]+@andover-healthcare\.com$ ^[^@]+@bearablemoments\.com$ ^[^@]+@avexnet\.com$ ^[^@]+@avidnano\.com$ ^[^@]+@amcarco\.com$ ^[^@]+@biyougeka-kensakuya\.com$ ^[^@]+@albawardi\.com$ ^[^@]+@barrao\.com$ ^[^@]+@affordableweddinggown\.com$ ^[^@]+@barshield\.com$ ^[^@]+@autographink\.com$ ^[^@]+@blankethealthinsurance\.com$ ^[^@]+@alfredojunior\.com$ ^[^@]+@marketingautomationtools\.org$ ^[^@]+@wexonex\.com$ ^[^@]+@bargedirect\.com$ ^[^@]+@blacktoastintolerance\.com$ ^[^@]+@bada-bing\.com$ ^[^@]+@africanews\.com$ ^[^@]+@marketplace\.amazon\.co\.uk$ ^[^@]+@blazingworld\.com$ ^[^@]+@csu\.edu$ ^[^@]+@artecollezione\.com$ ^[^@]+@billupsdesign\.com$ ^[^@]+@art4sale\.com$ ^[^@]+@bdwt\.com$ ^[^@]+@architechies\.com$ ^[^@]+@banklife\.comfe\.com$ ^[^@]+@aveek\.com$ ^[^@]+@adweek\.com$ ^[^@]+@allendistribution\.com$ ^[^@]+@1800radiator\.com$ ^[^@]+@alarabiaco\.com$ ^[^@]+@boldconcepts\.com$ ^[^@]+@andersonvaluationgroup\.com$ ^[^@]+@armandbasi\.com$ ^[^@]+@arastra\.com$ ^[^@]+@arcticspassaskatoon\.com$ ^[^@]+@aubreynorris\.com$ ^[^@]+@bctc\-lb\.com$ ^[^@]+@alongtheway\.com$ ^[^@]+@espbs\.net$ ^[^@]+@allthingsdigital\.com$ ^[^@]+@adinfocenter\.com$ ^[^@]+@arabize\.com$ ^[^@]+@giesting\.com$ ^[^@]+@.+\.co\.nz$ ^[^@]+@morebusinesswithfacebook\.com$ ^[^@]+@.+\.de$ ^[^@]+@.+\.ru$ ^[^@]+@.+\.ca$ ^parsons(a)nome\.net$ The subject on one discarded msg was (from unsubscribed user - just used wrong email): MEDITATION! RURAL BUSINESS FINANCE! Register today. And another subject same situation: SPARC MEETING Message sources didn't give me any clues, but I could provide one if it would help. thx, JD

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a silly question :-)
by Dr. Alberto Barengols 15 Feb '18

15 Feb '18

A very silly question: In the configuration web page, where is the variable to configure the automatic reminder of the subscription to a list? Thanks in advance,-A //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Is there an option to allow open Unsubscriptions
by Montanez, Victor 13 Feb '18

13 Feb '18

Is there a way to allow users to unsubscribe themselves without having to respond to the unsubscribe confirmation email?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Retention policy for archives
by Dang Tran 12 Feb '18

12 Feb '18

Hi Mark – prior to running this prune script, do I need to stop postfix first? On 01/15/2018 11:44 AM, Dang Tran wrote: > Hi – I’d like to setup a retention policy to delete all archives older than > 1yr. please help me to setup this. thanks See the script at <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/prune_arch> (mirrored at <https://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/prune_arch>). You could run this periodically via cron to do what you want. The down side of this is each time you run it, the messages in the archive will be renumbered and prior saved URLs to archived messages will no longer work. -- Mark Sapiro <m...(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org ------- Best Regards, Dang

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MM3 book in the works
by Tom Browder 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

I would love to see a new book on MM3. Anyone know of such a project proposed or in the works? FWIW, the new Perl 6 world (see https://perl6.org) has produced several books in the last year and some were started via various “fund me” websites. Best regards, -Tom

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MM3 book
by Ert Retre 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

I would love to see a new book on MM3. Anyone know of such a project proposed or in the works? FWIW, the new Perl 6 world (see https://perl6.org) has produced several books in the last year and some were started via various “fund me” websites. Best regards, -- Alexander Garcia https://www.drillanddriver.com

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Capability to export archive messages to Office 365 groups
by Dang Tran 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

Hi – I’d like to know if at all possible to export archive message to an O365 group. thanks ------- Best Regards, Dang

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Reply-to options not working
by Hal 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

I'm a little confused about the "reply-to" setting as I was pretty sure I had set my list up so that all replies by default go back to the list, but for some reason a reply goes directly to the sender. I had "reply_goes_to_list" set to "this list" along with the list's posting address set for the "reply_to_adress". Since this didn't work and I tried to read the details/help for the Mailman web-interface but can't seem to figure this out. I did change the "reply_goes_to_list" setting to "Explicit address" but that didn't appear to change anything. I'm on Mailman 2.1.12. Hal

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
by Grant Taylor 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

On 01/24/2018 10:40 AM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 1/24/2018 12:50 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> I think there's an obvious algorithm for "smart single reply": >> >> 1. If there is a Reply-To, address the message to Reply-To. >> 2. Else if there is a List-Post, address the message to List-Post. >> 3. Else address the message to From. (If there's no From, the >> message violates the most basic RFCs so all bets are off.) >> >> Assuming that no lists munge Reply-To, I think you'll agree that this >> is what you want 90% of the time (conservative estimate). There are >> some issues with this algorithm in practice: > > If a message had only List-Post and From, that wouldn't get the result > that I would want. I would want Reply to go to the author. As a list > member, I consider it an absolute requirement that Reply go to the > author and only to the author; I boycott any list that directs Reply to > the list. (I've dropped off the "staff" list for an event I was > participating in for this reason.) I think that the difference of Reply vs Reply-List applies to your statement. You are entitled to your opinion of how a mailing list should operate and free to configure any mailing lists you manage accordingly. I prefer that discussion mailing lists direct replies to the mailing list so that other subscribers are aware of and can participate in the discussions. > I want "Reply" to go to the author, and "Reply All" to go to the author, > the list, and any other To or CC destinations. I simply can't > understand any other answer. I don't understand why anybody feels a > need for "Reply List". Lack of understanding does not mean that other ways are invalid. See my comment above for why I want replies to my message to /discussion/ lists to go to the list. In fact, I really dislike receiving the CC when messages are going to the list that I'm subscribed to. > How that translates into headers that the mailing list software > generates, shrug. Yes, the mailing list software could always force in > a Reply-To: <author> to get the semantics that I want, but why should it > add that noise? Or the mailing list software could omit List-Post, > which I suppose would be fine too (since I don't understand why you > would want it). I thought the List-Post: header was more informational about how to post messages to the mailing list. - I thought MUAs started offering an option to use the List-Post header to purposefully send replies to the list instead of the author (From:|Reply-To:). > Before DMARC munging, I could have (mis)configured my MUA to ignore > Reply-To and mostly gotten the right semantics even on an evil > Reply-To:<list> list. With DMARC munging that's no longer an option; I > need Reply-To: <author> on DMARC-munged lists. How can you tell the difference between me setting the Reply-To: to be the Mailman Users mailing list (which I have done for this email) and the mailing list manager doing it? What do you do in these cases? Not sending the reply to the list is contrary to my desires (evident by me setting the Reply-To:) or the mailing list owners desires if they choose to munge the reply. And yes, the mailing list is going to munge the From for DMARC reasons. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
by Stephen J. Turnbull 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Jordan Brown writes: > I want "Reply" to go to the author, and "Reply All" to go to the author, > the list, and any other To or CC destinations. I simply can't > understand any other answer. I don't understand why anybody feels a > need for "Reply List". Your preference is noted, but you are definitely in a minority of those whose opinions I've seen over the decades. Even those who use Reply and Reply All as you do (I do on this list, for example), usually have considered it suboptimal. The preferences of list owners also should be respected, to the extent that replying users don't care. The prevalence of reply-to-munging says that they (or perhaps a majority of their subscribers) want replies to automatically go to the list.

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