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Starting: Tue Nov 1 00:25:59 CEST 2005
Ending: Wed Nov 30 19:52:29 CEST 2005
Messages: 308

• [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
  • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
• [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
  • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
    • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] setuptools: Missing unmanaged module warning; Failed SVN cleanup; Wrong version in .egg name   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] ez_setup 0.6a7 crashes on Python2.3, AMD64, Debian linux   Andrew Straw
• [Distutils] Fwd: [TurboGears] Error installing cElementTree !   Kevin Dangoor
• [Distutils] setuptools-0.6a7   Ian Bicking
  • [Distutils] setuptools-0.6a7   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] setuptools-0.6a7   Oleg Broytmann
• [Distutils] ez_setup 0.6a7 crashes on Python2.3, AMD64, Debian linux   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] setuptools: Bug in requirement loading   Ian Bicking
  • [Distutils] setuptools: Bug in requirement loading   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Fwd: [TurboGears] Error installing cElementTree !   Phillip J. Eby
  • [Distutils] Fwd: [TurboGears] Error installing cElementTree !   Kevin Dangoor
    • [Distutils] Fwd: [TurboGears] Error installing cElementTree !   Basem Narmok
• [Distutils] Fwd: [TurboGears] Error installing cElementTree !   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] New setuptools in subversion   Phillip J. Eby
  • [Distutils] New setuptools in subversion   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] -O3 brings the compiler to it's knees   Simon Burton
  • [Distutils] -O3 brings the compiler to it's knees   Simon Burton
• [Distutils] find_package_data in setuptools   Ian Bicking
• [Distutils] (no subject)   Dethe Elza
  • [Distutils] (no subject)   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] (no subject)   Dethe Elza
    • [Distutils] (no subject)   Patrick K. O'Brien
    • [Distutils] (no subject)   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] Compiling VPython   Dethe Elza
• [Distutils] setuptools: .egg-info/ and PKG-INFO   Ian Bicking
  • [Distutils] setuptools: .egg-info/ and PKG-INFO   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] setuptools: .egg-info/ and PKG-INFO   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] setuptools: .egg-info/ and PKG-INFO   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] pysqlite egg problem   Robin Becker
  • [Distutils] pysqlite egg problem   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] setuptools 0.6a8dev using non-existing shutil._build_cmdtuple function   David Handy
  • [Distutils] setuptools 0.6a8dev using non-existing shutil._build_cmdtuple function   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] eggs end up at end of sys.path   David Handy
  • [Distutils] eggs end up at end of sys.path   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] eggs end up at end of sys.path   David Handy
      • [Distutils] eggs end up at end of sys.path   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] eggs end up at end of sys.path   David Handy
• [Distutils] finding my own version with setuptools   Ashley Walsh
  • [Distutils] finding my own version with setuptools   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] finding my own version with setuptools   Ashley Walsh
    • [Distutils] finding my own version with setuptools   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] finding my own version with setuptools   Ashley Walsh
• [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ben Bangert
  • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ben Bangert
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] Distutils has no module named util, or is it a package problem?   Ian Bicking
• [Distutils] setuptools using -D on package requirements?   Ben Bangert
  • [Distutils] setuptools using -D on package requirements?   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] setuptools using -D on package requirements?   Ben Bangert
• [Distutils] __init__.py files missing from my eggs   Richard Cooper
• [Distutils] __init__.py files missing from my eggs   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] __init__.py files missing from my eggs   Richard Cooper
• [Distutils] __init__.py files missing from my eggs   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] (b)dist-dir questions   daishi at egcrc.net
  • [Distutils] (b)dist-dir questions   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] (b)dist-dir questions   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] EntryPoint.require() when dist=None   Ashley Walsh
  • [Distutils] EntryPoint.require() when dist=None   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Phillip J. Eby
  • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   M.-A. Lemburg
    • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   M.-A. Lemburg
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Patrick K. O'Brien
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Christopher Lenz
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   M.-A. Lemburg
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] MANIFEST destiny :)   Patrick K. O'Brien
• [Distutils] [TurboGears] hardcoded paths in tg-admin.exe and easy_install.exe?   Ian Bicking
  • [Distutils] [TurboGears] hardcoded paths in tg-admin.exe and easy_install.exe?   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] [TurboGears] hardcoded paths in tg-admin.exe and easy_install.exe?   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] subway setup.py failure   Robin Becker
  • [Distutils] subway setup.py failure   Ian Bicking
    • [Distutils] subway setup.py failure   Phillip J. Eby
  • [Distutils] subway setup.py failure   Kevin Dangoor
  • [Distutils] subway setup.py failure   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Setuptools 0.6a8 update to fix SourceForge problems   Phillip J. Eby
  • [Distutils] easy_install -U setuptools fails on Windows (workaround)   Brad Clements
    • [Distutils] easy_install -U setuptools fails on Windows (workaround)   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] easy_install -U setuptools fails on Windows (workaround)   Brad Clements
      • [Distutils] easy_install -U setuptools fails on Windows (workaround)   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Recent upgrade uses security restrictions?   Ben Bangert
  • [Distutils] Recent upgrade uses security restrictions?   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Question about usage of pje's setuptools   Luc Stepniewski
  • [Distutils] Question about usage of pje's setuptools   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Mac OS 10.4   Robin Becker
  • [Distutils] Mac OS 10.4   Bob Ippolito
    • [Distutils] Mac OS 10.4   Robin Becker
      • [Distutils] Mac OS 10.4   Bob Ippolito
• [Distutils] extra_compile/link_args : split string before exec   Simon Burton
• [Distutils] C++, swig, and distutils   Vishnu Bob
• [Distutils] setuptools, eager_resources, and DLLs   Gerhard Häring
  • [Distutils] setuptools, eager_resources, and DLLs   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Bob Tanner
  • [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Bob Tanner
      • [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] Overiding the site-packages/<module> directory name?   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Finding only activated eggs in Environment()   Rob Cakebread
  • [Distutils] Finding only activated eggs in Environment()   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] Finding only activated eggs in Environment()   Rob Cakebread
    • [Distutils] Finding only activated eggs in Environment()   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] Finding only activated eggs in Environment()   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Bob Tanner
  • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   M.-A. Lemburg
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   M.-A. Lemburg
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Bob Tanner
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   M.-A. Lemburg
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   David Arnold
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   David Arnold
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Robert Kern
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Robert Kern
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   David Arnold
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   David Arnold
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   David Arnold
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   David Arnold
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Matthias Urlichs
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Donovan Baarda
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Donovan Baarda
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Janusz A. Urbanowicz
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Donovan Baarda
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Janusz A. Urbanowicz
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Janusz A. Urbanowicz
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Donovan Baarda
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Christopher Lenz
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Christopher Lenz
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Matthias Urlichs
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Donovan Baarda
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Ian Bicking
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Chad Walstrom
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Sanghyeon Seo
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Janusz A. Urbanowicz
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   M.-A. Lemburg
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Bob Tanner
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Bob Ippolito
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Andrew Bennetts
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Paul Moore
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Matthias Urlichs
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Matthias Urlichs
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   "Martin v. Löwis"
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Donovan Baarda
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Josselin Mouette
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   John J Lee
      • [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
  • [Distutils] .egg in Debian summary?   Bob Tanner
    • [Distutils] .egg in Debian summary?   Vincenzo Di Massa
      • [Distutils] .egg in Debian summary?   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] [Bulk] Re: .egg in Debian summary?   Vincenzo Di Massa
    • [Distutils] .egg in Debian summary?   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] HTTP auth in svn repositories   Ben Bangert
  • [Distutils] HTTP auth in svn repositories   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Version numbers with a letter at the end   Ben Bangert
  • [Distutils] Version numbers with a letter at the end   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] Setuptools now in FreeBSD Ports Collection   Wolfgang Langner
• [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Kurt Schwehr
• [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] setuptools doc patch   John J Lee
  • [Distutils] setuptools doc patch   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] setuptools doc patch   John J Lee
• [Distutils] Including package_data in a source distribution   Noel O'Boyle
  • [Distutils] Including package_data in a source distribution   M.-A. Lemburg
  • [Distutils] Including package_data in a source distribution   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] Including package_data in a source distribution   Noel O'Boyle
• [Distutils] problems installing elementTree   Sharky On PTNet
  • [Distutils] problems installing elementTree   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] specify zip method (ZIP_STORED, ZIP_DEFLATED)   Wolfgang Langner
• [Distutils] Problems instaling Kid template   Sharky On PTNet
  • [Distutils] Problems instaling Kid template   Phillip J. Eby
• [Distutils] [DistUtils] - Problem with versions...   Sharky On PTNet
  • [Distutils] [DistUtils] - Problem with versions...   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] [DistUtils] - Problem with versions...   Sharky On PTNet
• [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   skip at pobox.com
  • [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   Ian Bicking
    • [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   Phillip J. Eby
      • [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   skip at pobox.com
      • [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   Phillip J. Eby
    • [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   skip at pobox.com
• [Distutils] Trouble installing Myghty with --prefix   Phillip J. Eby

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