Mailman 3 July 2001 - Mailman-Users

strange SMTP problems after Postfix conversion
by Dave Klingler July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hi folks. I'm stumped. I'm getting the following messages on my console after bringing up a new OpenBSD 2.9 machine with Postfix to replace a virtual host setup that used Sendmail (I'm pleased so far with the ease of Postfix configuration, by the way). I had initially configured the machine as virtual.spaceandrobotics.org, but I reconfigured it as mail.spaceandrobotics .org with a 'www' cname. The name "virtual" does not exist on my DNS at all. Basically no mail at all is going out, and I'm getting this: Jul 26 08:50:23 mail postfix/smtpd[15521]: warning: 208.248.173.65: hostname virtual.spaceandrobotics.org verification failed: Host not found Jul 26 08:50:23 mail postfix/smtp[19369]: warning: host mail.spaceandrobotics.org[208.248.173.65] greeted me with my own hostname mail.spaceandrobotics.org Jul 26 08:50:23 mail postfix/smtp[19369]: warning: host mail.spaceandrobotics.org[208.248.173.65] replied to HELO/EHLO with my own hostname mail.spaceandrobotics.org The first message totally stumps me because I've grepped through several directories for the word "virtual" with no sign of where that hostname is coming from. Typing "uname -a" returns bash# uname -a OpenBSD mail 2.9 GENERIC#653 i386 and Postfix does seem to be picking up the correct hostname, as evidenced by the second message. There's no sign of the "virtual" hostname in either the /etc/postfix or various mailman directories (unless I've bungled and missed it somehow). Somehow when mailman connects, though, the old "virtual" hostname is being generated somewhere. Sending email to myself via mail -v from the same machine returns bash# mail -v test(a)spaceandrobotics.org Subject: test tra la la EOT postdrop: open maildrop/C23862A009 postdrop: print string: C23862A009 send-mail: mail_scan_any: read string: C23862A009 postdrop: print int: 0 send-mail: mail_scan_any: read integer: 0 which I have to admit is not nearly as informative as what I used to get with Sendmail. Sending from another machine returns [davek@mail davek]$ mail -v test(a)spaceandrobotics.org Subject: test from a different machine fa la la Cc: test(a)spaceandrobotics.org... Connecting to mail.spaceandrobotics.org. via esmtp... 220 mail.spaceandrobotics.org ESMTP Postfix >>> EHLO mail.commercedata.com 250-mail.spaceandrobotics.org 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 10240000 250-ETRN 250 8BITMIME >>> MAIL From:<davek(a)mail.commercedata.com> SIZE=79 250 Ok >>> RCPT To:<test(a)mail.spaceandrobotics.org> 250 Ok >>> DATA 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF> >>> . 250 Ok: queued as 68F7E2A009 test(a)spaceandrobotics.org... Sent (Ok: queued as 68F7E2A009) Closing connection to mail.spaceandrobotics.org. >>> QUIT 221 Bye So anyway, here I am. The mail queue is getting flushed, and the mail is going somewhere, although I don't believe it's going into any spools, and disappearing. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help! Dave Klingler

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public
by Eli Therese July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

hello where is the setup/config who determines wether a list is public or not? thanks, therese :)

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Optimisation
by Enriko Groen July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hi! I have a FreeBSD 4.2 based mailsystem with Postfix as MTA. As mentioned earlier today I abuse Mailman 2.0.5 as a "bulkmailer" (bulk is pretty relative with 6000 addresses). Before my company use an NT server with Exchange to do the job (lack of Unix knowledge). I noticed a dramatic increase of peformance which is due to optimising of addresses. The system sorts the same domains together and delivers these messages in several larger batches (the same messages with several recipients). Now I am wondering is this optimising done by Mailman or is it the MTA (postfix) that does this job? -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager -------------------------------------------------------- netivity bv www.netivity.nl enriko.groen(a)netivity.nl 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle --------------------------------------------------------

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locks...........cjk
by Constantine Koulis July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hello all. Sometimes if i do a change in my WEB administration menu of Mailman and i try to access again the same Web interface it doesnt let me unless i DELETE the files in the locks directory of my MAilman. Anybody knows why? Tks & Best Regards Koulis Constantine. Bucharest Romania Business Phone :+4-093979131 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Umbrella lists and approvals
by matthew.malthouse＠guardian.co.uk July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Have a number of lists of lists. Set to require mderators approval and all behave as expected. A another list to which all the others are subscribed. That also set to require approval and behaves as expected. However I don't want to have to approve all the messages in each subsidiary list so I've tried putting the list-of-lists name into the let through bit under privacy options thus: Must posts be approved by an administrator?: Yes Restrict posting privilege to list members?: No Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list without implicit approval requirement: listofallmylists(a)roundhere.co.uk However all the posts are stopped awaiting moderator approval and I don't know why! Secondary question: In general options there's "Suffix for use when this list is an umbrella for other lists, according to setting of previous "umbrella_list" setting." only I don't see any "umbrella_list" setting anywhere. The install is a 1.xx - I don't knwo quite which as it was done long before I inherited the machine and whatever sources there might have bee seem to have been deleted. Doh! It's running on a Linux 2.2.14-12 #2 SMP kernal (RedHat 6.0 distro). Matthew

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Upgrading Python...
by Phydeaux July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

I'm currently running Mailman 2.0.3 with Python 2.0 on Solaris 7. I'm looking to upgrade to Python 2.1.1 -- will this cause my existing mailing lists any problems? reb

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postfix alias mailman 2.1a2
by Armin Haaf July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hello, I installed mailman 2.1a2 on suse 7.2 with postfix as MTA. It works fine until I set postfix as MTA in mm_cfg.py. After that a list creation gives the following message: Bug in Mailman version 2.1a2 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/app/mailman//scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "../Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 54, in main process_request(doc, cgidata) File "../Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 178, in process_request sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) File "../Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 122, in create db = dbhash.open(DBFILE, 'c') File "/var/tmp/python-root//usr/lib/python2.0/dbhash.py", line 8, in open return bsddb.hashopen(file, flag, mode) error: (22, 'Invalid argument') Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.0 (#1, May 16 2001, 00:02:45) [GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (SuSE)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 Environment variables: Variable Value DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/mailman/htdocs/ SERVER_ADDR 10.1.2.100 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip CONTENT_LENGTH 116 CONTENT_TYPE application/x-www-form-urlencoded REMOTE_ADDR 10.1.1.101 SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) (SuSE/Linux) ApacheJServ/1.1.2 mod_fastcgi/2.2.2 mod_ssl/2.8.3 OpenSSL/0.9.6a PHP/4.0.4pl1 mod_perl/1.25 mod_python/2.7.2 Python/2.0 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 UNIQUE_ID O1-dsAoBAmQAAALjBbE HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE de, en REMOTE_PORT 33216 SERVER_PORT 443 HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.4-4GB i686) HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* REQUEST_URI /cgi-bin/create QUERY_STRING SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.0 HTTPS on HTTP_HOST mailman.dmz.mercatis.de REQUEST_METHOD POST SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.19 Server at mailman.dmz.mercatis.de Port 443 SCRIPT_NAME /cgi-bin/create SERVER_ADMIN haaf(a)mercatis.de SCRIPT_FILENAME /home/mailman/app/mailman/cgi-bin/create PYTHONPATH /home/mailman/app/mailman/ HTTP_REFERER https://mailman.dmz.mercatis.de/cgi-bin/create SERVER_NAME mailman.dmz.mercatis.de the alias file exists and is rw for user, group and others Do I need a newer python version, or is this a bug in mailman?? Thanx Armin -- Armin Haaf, mercatis information systems GmbH Marlene-Dietrich-Str. 5 Fon +49 (0) 731 98588 - 615 89231 Neu-Ulm, Germany Fax +49 (0) 731 98588 - 511 http://www.mercatis.de mailto:haaf@mercatis.de

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Large list on FreeBSD
by Enriko Groen July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

> -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Lattanzi [mailto:robert@icarus.usanetworks.com] > Is anyone out there using Mailman on FreeBSD for > managing a list with in excess of 110,000 subscribers? I have > general "how well does it work? issues?" type questions. Most > of what I've seen in the archives refers to "big" lists as > greater than 10,000. I guess this one is really really big. I suppose this list is an announcement list. Mailman was built as an mailinglist manager, so it is aimed at discussion lists rather than announcement lists. Keep that in mind. I run it on FreeBSD too, with Postfix as MTA. I too misuse it for announcement lists too; but the biggest list at this moment is 6000 subscribers. I remember unsubscribing all mambers last time (to clean up) which took about 15 minutes. I'm still contemplating if Mailman is the way to go for announcement lists. The webinterface is really aimed towards small quantities of users. And for an announcement list it would still accept messages from people trying to abuse the list for spam (they reply). Mailman will put these on hold, but you would still have to discard these messages. With 5000 members I had about 20 people trying to abuse the list so with 110000 that would be 500 messages to discard. No fun! -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager -------------------------------------------------------- netivity bv www.netivity.nl enriko.groen(a)netivity.nl 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle --------------------------------------------------------

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remote?
by Alex Lau July 25, 2001

July 25, 2001

localhost will work but external address get the following... why? Jul 26 10:31:02 2001 (4051) -1 clau(a)cs.unt.edu (ignore)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Potential customer w/ question
by Ken Freed July 25, 2001

July 25, 2001

Hi Mailman Users -- I'm in my final decision-making process about which webhost to use. I'm interested in using Mailman over Majordomo because of the web- based interface for fast, intuitive subscribe/unsubscribe by users. But I'm still hoping to get a look at the web-based administrative interface for Mailman. Can you give me a site with a demo of the admin tools? Also, and this is critical, I also must know if all the software is installed in my site directory, or if anything has to be in the server's root directory. If all of Mailman works from my site directory only, I may be in business. Thanks in advance for your speedy and useful reply. -- ken Ken Freed, Publisher Media Visions Journal http://www.media-visions.com "Deep literacy makes global sense."

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