Mailman 3 July 2001 - Mailman-Users

request?
by Alex Lau July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

how do mailman notice the request had come it? does it read the qmil Mailbox or what? Thanks Alex

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Possible Security Issue with Mailman v1.1 and 2.0.5
by isaac dawson July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hello, My name is Isaac Dawson and I work for a security auditing company. When working on a client who uses your mailman program, I noticed any un-authenticated user can spill the environment variables of the host. Case and Point: http://mailman.list.org/mailman/edithtml This may not seem like much, but it will give an attacker much more information about what is installed, the path, and the OS. I will be submitting this bug to securityfocus.com but only after I notify you. Please respond ASAP! Thank you, Isaac Dawson Security Engineer Athena Group, Inc p:781.641.1310 x 205

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Digest separator help
by Bradford Shaw July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hello, If I change the MIME_SEPARATOR = '__--__--' in the ToDigest.py file, will that change the separator in the digests or is it just an identifier for processing? If it is just an identifier, where is the separator setting so that I can change the digest separator? Best wishes, Bradford "Biff" Shaw List Administrator PerilPoint Communications Inc. http://www.perilpoint.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Erasing administrative requests
by J C Lawrence July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:31:05 -0600 Fernando Barajas <fbarajas(a)sistec.com.mx> wrote: > How can I delete all the pending adminitrative requests from a > list, without using the Web interface? For held messages: $ rm ~/data/held-<listname>-* -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Optimisation
by J C Lawrence July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:34:36 +0200 Enriko Groen <enriko.groen(a)netivity.nl> wrote: > The system sorts the same domains together and delivers these > messages in several larger batches (the same messages with several > recipients). > Now I am wondering is this optimising done by Mailman or is it the > MTA (postfix) that does this job? A mixture of both. IIRC current versions of Mailman will do domain sorting of addresses before handing them off to the MTA (which is what Majordomo's bulk_mailer does). Further, an intelligent MTA ala Postfix does intelligent queue handling and so will do things like parallel deliveries to responsive MX'es, cross-spool fallbacks on slow MXes, multiple parallel queue runners working on deliveries, etc. -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Re: [Mailman-Users] locks...........cjk
by J C Lawrence July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:09:02 +0300 Constantine Koulis <kouliscon(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello all. Sometimes if i do a change in my WEB administration > menu of Mailman and i try to access again the same Web interface > it doesnt let me unless i DELETE the files in the locks directory > of my MAilman. Anybody knows why? Older versions of Mailman had inconsistent and occasionally broken lock handling patterns. These are considerably improved in the current release to the point of rarely being a problem, and if so a short lived on (I suspect you're running an older version). Lock handling is considerably improved in the current beta. -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list on FreeBSD
by J C Lawrence July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:52:24 +0200 Enriko Groen <enriko.groen(a)netivity.nl> wrote: > I suppose this list is an announcement list. Mailman was built as > an mailinglist manager, so it is aimed at discussion lists rather > than announcement lists. Keep that in mind. While true, it takes little work to make it quite happy for announcement lists. > I'm still contemplating if Mailman is the way to go for > announcement lists. The webinterface is really aimed towards > small quantities of users. Mailman will also run happily without the web interface being enabled. The main problems with current versions of Mailman and large user bases surround load times for config.db (which gets large). The 2.5 beta which Barry just dropped allows exporting of the user base into external forms (eg SQL), which should radically alter and possibly entirely fix this space. > And for an announcement list it would still accept messages from > people trying to abuse the list for spam (they reply). Install a rule-set in your MTA or a leading procmail recipe which filter/drops all inbound messages not coming from a designated list of addresses. Yes, Mailman should handle this area better, and does in 2.5. There's still quite a bit to do. > Mailman will put these on hold, but you would still have to > discard these messages. With 5000 members I had about 20 people > trying to abuse the list so with 110000 that would be 500 messages > to discard. No fun! Nuking the held-<listname>-.* files from ~/data works just as well and is considerably faster/easier. <<This written as one who hand edits held messages in ~/data, via XEmacs, par, and other tools, into conformance with posting requirements for one of his lists>> -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Digest Cleanup help needed
by Bradford Shaw July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Hello, We've been getting complaints about the way the digests are formatted. Everything seems to be squished together and we would like to make them cleaner looking by adding blank lines and dashs between the index and messages as well as between the messages themselves. While we are at it, we would like to remove the full headers from printing in each and every message in the digest (seems redundant and over-burdensome with all of that display). Now, how do I accomplish that? I can't find the file in the distribution. Maybe it is in the scripts somewhere? I would appreciate help with this. TIA Best wishes, Bradford "Biff" Shaw List Administrator PerilPoint Communications Inc. http://www.perilpoint.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] strange SMTP problems after Postfix conversion
by Dave Klingler July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

Good morning, Devdas. Thanks for your time and your reply. > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Dave Klingler spewed into the ether: > <snip> > > which I have to admit is not nearly as informative as what I used to get > > with Sendmail. Sending from another machine returns > Turn on logging in master.cf Thank you, but I prefer to keep it enabled. I like to know when I have strange problems like these! > <snip> > > So anyway, here I am. The mail queue is getting flushed, and the mail > > is going somewhere, although I don't believe it's going into any spools, > > and disappearing. Anyone have any ideas? > Did you recompile mailman? Yes, I did, just in case. The Default.py file has always contained the correct hostname, and grepping through the rest of the Mailman directories for the word "irtual" did not yield any clues. Mailman was installed after the machine name was changed. > See in ~mailman/Mailman/Default.py for the old hostname Thanks again for any ideas anyone might have! Dave Klingler

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Erasing administrative requests
by Fernando Barajas July 26, 2001

July 26, 2001

How can I delete all the pending adminitrative requests from a list, without using the Web interface? Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Fernando Barajas Díaz Lozano SISTEMAS Y TECNOLOGÍA DE MEXICO-Soluciones en Redes e Internet http://www.sistec.com.mx

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