Mailman 3 August 2004 - Mailman-Users

mailman and qmail
by David Cake 31 Aug '04

31 Aug '04

Anyone using mailman successfully with qmail and the qmail-to-mailman.py script? I seem to have it all set up, but it just doesn't quite work, I keep getting messages that suggest it gets two Delivered-To lines and gives up. Regards David From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)mail.readylist.com.au To: dave(a)difference.com.au Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.readylist.com.au. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <mailman(a)myserver.com.au>: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <dave(a)difference.com.au> Received: (qmail 8173 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2004 10:54:40 -0000 Delivered-To: mailman(a)myserver.com.au Received: (qmail 8138 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2004 10:29:40 -0000 Delivered-To: test(a)myserver.com.au Received: (qmail 8124 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 10:25:49 -0000 Received: from www.jmcs.net.au (HELO legba.difference.com.au) (202.0.185.54) by myserver.com.au with SMTP; 30 Aug 2004 10:25:49 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.34] (CPE-141-168-116-131.wa.bigpond.net.au [141.168.116.131]) by legba.difference.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Debian-5) with ESMTP id i7UA27Wr002037 for <test(a)myserver.com.au>; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:02:08 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a0611043bbd58abd3dcab(a)[192.168.0.34]> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:03:06 +0800 To: test(a)mail.readylist.com.au From: David Cake <dave(a)difference.com.au> Subject: log this test? 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" A TEST

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.5 subject line problem
by Rimgaudas Laucius 31 Aug '04

31 Aug '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fuzzy" <fuzzy(a)pooh.ASARian.org> To: "Rimgaudas Laucius" <rimga(a)ktl.mii.lt> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.5 subject line problem > > > I think you're missing what Mark and Brad are saying. > > By putting non-ascii characters, (things not in the US-ASCII > character set), in the subject, you're forcing your MUA to > translate them into the "gibberish" you've been talking about. > > If you do not put those characters in the subject, > the MUA does not have to convert them to be standards > compliant. > > Mailman has nothing to do with what characters you choose > to put in the subject field, (which are restricted by > standards). Exactly!!! Mailman has nothing to do with message. It gets correct coded message with only ASCII characters and it needs only forward it to mailing list participants, but it rejects. And problem is that it scans message subject and if finds ?windows goes madden. I want to note that many people uses windows coding and you could not force them all to switch to ISO.

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Rogue address in mailing list
by John Price 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 on Gentoo. My list had about 60K members. I have this rogue email address that is half subscribed and half not. When I try to list the address with list_members, I get an error (shown below), but if I try to remove the address with remove_members, it says the address is not a member of the list! This is also affecting posting to the list (the emails get put in the shunt dir and I've included the error from the error log file below). How can I use withlist or some other way to remove this member completely (I don't know much about Python, so please be explicit)? Also, is there a patch to fix this? Thx, John * error log file * Aug 26 16:56:55 2004 (7137) Uncaught runner exception: member-name(a)Productivity.com Aug 26 16:56:55 2004 (7137) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 74, in process recips = [mlist.getMemberCPAddress(m) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 139, in getDeliveryStatus self.__assertIsMember(member) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member NotAMemberError: member-name(a)Productivity.com * Running list_members * # /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members -n bybounce mylistname Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members", line 286, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members", line 262, in main if nomail and not whymatches(mlist, addr, why): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members", line 138, in whymatches status = mlist.getDeliveryStatus(addr) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 139, in getDeliveryStatus self.__assertIsMember(member) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: member-name(a)Productivity.com * Running remove_members * # /usr/local/mailman/bin/remove_members mylistname member-name(a)Productivity.com No such member: member-name(a)Productivity.com -- If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. Have a great day and don't forget to laugh! http://www.gcfl.net (The Good, Clean Funnies List): Good, clean daily funnies you can safely tell your mom!

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Master List
by Mike Phillips 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

I have two MailMan lists for my son's school's football teams -- Varsity and JV. I need to create a master list that has the two lists as its only members such that an email sent to master(a)domain.com is distributed to jv(a)domain.com and varsity(a)domain.com. Because of bouncing, relying to the list, and other such considerations, there may be more to it than just adding the two names to a list. What is the best way of setting it up?

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post to this list
by GLENDA NEWMAN-BUTLER 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

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Mystery with user_option URL
by Allan Trick 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

Help! I set some lists up a year ago and on most of them a note I append appears like this (it's entered into "msg_footer" on the Non-digest Options page): Changes to your subscription may be made by visiting http://www.prin.edu/mailman/options/2014/atrick%40prin.edu. If you are on more than one such Principia mailing list, click "Change globally" to apply any changes you may make to all of your subscribed lists. I set up a new list just now and the footer appears this way on this new list: Changes to your subscription may be made by visiting %(user_optionsurl)s. If you are on more than one such Principia mailing list, click "Change globally" to apply any changes you may make to all of your subscribed lists. (It doesn't translate the user_option to a URL.) Here's the instruction copied straight from the "msg_footer" field of the list where it IS working right: Changes to your subscription may be made by visiting %(user_optionsurl)s. If you are on more than one such Principia mailing list, click "Change globally" to apply any changes you may make to all of your subscribed lists. It looks just the same on the list where it's NOT working. What have I not done right to get that URL to show in the messages? Allan

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running newlist from a perl script
by K. Clair 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

Hello, I'm trying to run the newlist command from a perl script that is suid to root (real userid is 504 and effective userid is 0), and I'm getting the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/bin/newlist",line 219, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/bin/newlist", line 160, in main mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 454, in Create self._full_path = Site.get_listpath(name, create=1) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Site.py", line 65, in get_listpath _makedir(path) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Site.py", line 40, in _makedir os.makedirs(path, 02775) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/os.py", line 203, in makedirs mkdir(name, mode) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/lists/mmtest' The group mailman exists on the server where the cgi is running, and the user mailman is a member of that group. The permissions of the directory are: drwxrwsr-x 6 user mailman 4096 Aug 26 2004 /home/mailman/lists Has anyone tried to do anything like this and gotten it to work? I'm wondering if it is actually a problem with the perl script running in taint mode so then it's not running the newlist program as setgid. Thanks, Kristina

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help
by nderrff retrgrtg 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Hey. I have just started to use your mailing list program, but i am new to website making etc. I have set up a mailing list, but i do not understand certain things. Is there a way of allowing people to subscribe to it on my website without having to visit those pages? Also, if the email is News(a)penitentiary.co.uk and I want to send a newsletter, do I send an email to news(a)penitentiary.co.uk and then it will be distributed to everyone on the list? Is there a way allowing only me to send emails to people on the list? Hope you can help..i'm sure they are basic questions..just i am a bit confused..hehe thx ~Myles _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo

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Redirect reply's to list messages
by Fred Macondray 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Greetings All, I just set up Mailman as provided by my hosting service. I've currently got my list up and working so that the following are true: 1) The list is in "announce only mode" 2) A few authorized addresses can send email to the list 3) Unauthorized members and non-members get a rejection message when they send to the list address. What I would like to do is redirect all messages sent to the list by unauthorized addresses to a specific address or to the list owner. Is this possible? People have a tendency to reply with questions about the announcement. Thanks in advance, fredimac

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mailman 2.1.5 subject line problem
by Rimgaudas Laucius 28 Aug '04

28 Aug '04

Hello, i installed mailman 2.1.5 on Linux (rh9). The problem is with letters where are used national characters (8 bit [#128..#255] from baltic cp Windows 1257 or ISOxxxx-13) in subject line. Mailman does not pass such letters (discards them without any message). Earlier version (2.0.14) had not such problem.

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