Mailman 3 June 2005 - Mailman-Users

after check_perms -f -- cgis no longer work
by Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

Hi On a gentoo linux box with a from source made 2.1.5 (not from emerge), mailman was happily running, except some archives were not being updated. I ran a bin/check_perms -f and now the cgis (listinfo or any of them) are no longer working and the apache error log shows the (infamous) "Premature end of script headers: /web/xxxx.com/ mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo" error. Neither mailman or apache have been updated recently and before the check_perms it was working fine. If I go in as mailman and run the cgi listinfo at the command line, for example, it dumps the right html. I went back and looked at the config in the mailman source and it has good cgi_gid set for example. I am stumped. I have messed around with the permissions and ownership of the cgi and run check_perms -f a few times (says no problems) but the cgis won't run. Any hints or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad(a)shire.net

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Moderator Notifications Being Discarded
by Andrew Klein 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

I have a list where moderator notifications appear to be discarded. I have confirmed admin_immed_notify is turned on. I have tried it with different moderator addresses. I believe the 'vette' log is telling me that the message is being discarded. I have debugged the source code in Queue/IncomingRunner.py and can kind of see what is going on. The DiscardMessage exception is getting thrown somewhere but I cannot figure out why or where. Anyone have a clue on this or how to debug it? I am happy to mess with the source code to narrow it down.

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Send Mail delay
by smeg 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

I have recently set up mailman (2.1.5p2) and am very impressed with it. I have a question though, is it possible to have it delay the sending of the messages? If send to many emails in period x through my mail server it locks me out for about 1 hour. If i could specify a time delay between each message, this would fix the problem. What i find is my mail server will only allow about 100 emails /hour. My list has about 80 people on it, so if 2 messages are sent in in one hour i have a problem. Thanks for any help u can give on this issue. Cheers Chris

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception
by Salada, Duncan S. 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Thanks for the code snippet. It worked very well. I also appreciate the warning about the indentation. I work mostly in Perl, so I don't generally have to worry about indentation. I have a follow-up question. Is there a source for information about the contents of the qfiles and logs directories? Part of my time in dealing with this problem was spent trying to figure out how to follow the path of a message through mailman's different logs and qfile directories. Duncan ----------------------------------------------- Duncan Salada Titan Corporation 301-925-3222 x375 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:21 PM > To: Salada, Duncan S.; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception > > > Salada, Duncan S.wrote: > > >I have a problem with one of my lists. I have 4 lists, and > 3 seem to be working fine. The fourth one worked fine for > the first couple of weeks, but then started having problems. > No changes were made to the configuration during that time. > The problem is this: mail will not go out to any of the users. > > > >This list was configured to have only one recipient and > allow anyone to post to it (sort of a spam catcher). I've > checked everything in the most applicable FAQ > (http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03. > 014.htp). In the error log, I keep getting "Uncaught runner > exception: len() of unsized object" (the full log entry with > Traceback is at the bottom of the email). > > > >I am running Mailman 2.1.4 installed from source on Solaris > 6 with sendmail. > > > >Any help, information, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > >==== ERROR LOG ===== > >Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) Uncaught runner exception: > len() of unsized object > >Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", > line 110, in _oneloop > > self._onefile(msg, msgdata) > > File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", > line 160, in _onefile > > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > > File > "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", > line 130, in _dispose > > more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) > > File > "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", > line 153, in _dopipeline > > sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) > > File > "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line > 91, in process > > send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) > > File > "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line > 132, in send_digests > > send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) > > File > "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line > 306, in send_i18n_digests > > msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) > > File > "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line > 262, in process > > size = len(payload) > >TypeError: len() of unsized object > > > >Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) SHUNTING: > 1118084879.080544+37fc5a2467c00ef900e9933a77c481ec4aa67de3 > >==== END ERROR LOG ===== > > > The error is because of a badly formed mime multipart message. The > Mailman 2.1.6 version of Scrubber.py contains the following insert > before the ' size = len(payload)'. > > > # XXX Under email 2.5, it is possible that payload will be None. > # This can happen when you have a Content-Type: multipart/* with > # only one part and that part has two blank lines between the > # first boundary and the end boundary. In email 3.0 you end up > # with a string in the payload. I think in this case > it's safe to > # ignore the part. > if payload is None: > continue > size = len(payload) > > The reference to email 2.5 is the Python library email module. > > These errors put the message in the shunt queue (qfiles/shunt/). > Presumably the message or some residue of it is still elsewhere, > probably in lists/<listname>/digest.mbox, causing this error to occur > for each new message. > > You could install the above code in Scrubber.py. If so, be careful - > the above isn't indented the right amount and indentation counts. > > Otherwise, you could try to identify the bad message in the > shunt queue > and delete it and also edit digests.mbox to remove it from there too. > Then you can probably run bin/unshunt and be OK, or if you just want > to get things started again without worrying about lost messages, you > can just remove the digests.mbox and delete the messages from the > shunt queue. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan >

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Bounce-events pck files...
by Glenn Sieb 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

I run Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE, with Apache 2.0.54, and Postfix 2.2.3 I was just looking in my mailman/data directory and noticed that I have 155 of these bounce-events-#####.pck files taking up about 24 meg of space there. They date back as far as January 18th of this year. Are these garbage files? Unprocessed bounce messages? What does one do with these--I didn't see anything on the FAQ or FAQ-wizard... Thanks in advance! Best, --Glenn -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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Finding abandoned lists and most recent activity
by Mike Alberghini 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

I'm the admin of a Mailman system with several hundred lists. I'm trying to write some scripts that will scan the mailman directory tree and find lists that are abandoned, never used, etc. The main thing I'm trying to figure out is how to know when the last post to a list was. We have lists that archive (easy) lists that don't archive and lists that used to archive but no longer do. Is there a flag or a file with a last-modified date that will tell me when the last post to a list was? I'm looking for actual posts, not messages that were sent and rejected, deferred or held. I'm trying to find the following kinds of lists: 1. Lists that have been posted to in the past six months 2. Lists that have not been posted to in the past six months 3. Lists that have never been posted to. I'm having trouble figuring out the difference between a list that has had no activity and one that does not archive. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- Michael Alberghini Software Systems Engineer Georgia State University mike(a)gsu.edu

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Forwarding a Moderated Message/Content Type
by Hunter Hillegas 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

I want to ask something before I send out a message to a huge list. The message is an HTML message. I setup the list and subscribed three people, then sent the message as a test. It came through perfectly. I have now subscribed all my users and am ready to send the message to the list. Right now it is in the moderated queue. >From that Web page, I used the option: " Forward messages (individually) to:" The message I received from this forward DID NOT look correct. The content types of the two messages are different: Correct HTML: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Incorrect (Forward): Content-Type: message/rfc822 Looking at the headers for the forwarded message, it looks like it wraps the original content in a plain text message... If that is true, when I approve the message it should go through with the correct Content-Type, yes? Before I send out this massive mailing, I'd like to make sure I am doing this correctly. Thanks, Hunter

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Migration from Linux to MacOSX
by Carfield Yim 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

I need to do the migration from Linux to MacOSX, can anyone point me to some document of how to do this?

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Permitted IP Address?
by Bill Landry 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

We have a script that will send out automated service notification messages to different lists. Is there a way to configure Mailman to allow posts to any lists from a specific IP address, that of the script server? Bill

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mailman + groupware software
by Christian Schoepplein 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Hello, I wonder if there is a groupware software available, that has mailman integrated somehow. -- Gruss / Regards, Christian Schoepplein <chris at schoeppi.net> Linux for the blind: http://www.blinux.suse.de

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