Mailman 3 June 2005 - Mailman-Users

Disappearing email
by Paul Key 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Mailman 2.1.3 Sun Sparc Solaris 9 I have a one-way announcements list with about 2300 subscribers and a post to this list has completely disappeared. The reply-to address of the sent email is changed to the email address of the person who has asked for the email to be sent out and this causes the mail to need approval even though the account used to send the email has been added to "List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted.". This is intermittent too - sometimes the email will go through without approval with a changed reply-to address - sometimes not. However this email asked for approval - here are the entries from vette: Jun 21 10:27:13 2005 (2762) Sgul-students post from lj005748(a)sgul.ac.uk held, message-id=<42B7DE91.7060502(a)sgul.ac.uk>: Post to moderated list Jun 21 10:29:09 2005 (2902) held message approved, message-id: <42B7DE91.7060502(a)sgul.ac.uk> Jun 21 10:55:22 2005 (3013) Sgul-students post from lj005748(a)sgul.ac.uk held, message-id=<42B7E52A.7000904(a)sgul.ac.uk>: Post to moderated list Jun 21 10:57:04 2005 (3077) sgul-students: Discarded posting: From: messages(a)sgul.ac.uk Subject: Extension of Awards Deadline Reason: No reason given The first time it was sent it was approved but nobody received it and it didn't show in the POST log so it was sent again. Again it was approved but then discarded - why? The email appears in the list archive but using exim and eximon it was never sent out (doesn't show on the queue) but has disappeared without trace. Does anyone know how I can find out what has happened to it? or how to get the mail sent? Thanks Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Black hole
by Dennis Putnam 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

I am having trouble with my distribution lists (well, only one is currently under test). I can see from the mail.log file that an incoming message was processed and sent to 'mailman'. However, no one on the list received anything and I cannot see anything in the log where it was distributed. The message seems to have gone into a black hole without a trace. The logs have not been updated in a couple of weeks. Did I inadvertently turn off logging somewhere? How do I figure out what is wrong? Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments.

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Restrict Posting to individual users
by Eric Howell 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

I have several lists available on a Mac OS X Server (Mailman 2.1.4) I can¹t figure out how to set the software (using the GUI) to ensure that only a single user is permitted to post a message for delivery. There are several hundred members on the list, but I want every message to be held for approval. I think I¹ve set it as such, but messages from members still get delivered. Thanks.

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Exim + Mailman + Secondary MX
by GamCo - Gawie Marais 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Hi, We have a server doing Secondary MX for a stack of domains as well as relay for a stack of ip addresses. We installed and configured Mailman as per the installation instructions and all works great but we get a Relay Access Denied error when we try and send mail to recipients on domains not listed in the domainlist relay_to_domains entry in Exim. We use the following entries on Exim to allow the sending of mail to the domains we do secondary MX hosting for as well as the hosts we allow relaying from through our server :- domainlist relay_to_domains = /usr/local/etc/exim/relay_domains hostlist relay_from_hosts = /usr/local/etc/exim/host_relay If we take out the entries on the domainlist relay_to_domains ,, then everything works great except that anyone can then relay to any domain making the server a potential open relay. Has anyone got some idea to run this configuration correctly ?? Regards Gawie J Marais

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Still installation woes
by Rob Shepherd 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

I can't believe this is giving me so much trouble. mailman 2.1.6, solaris9 UltraSPARC 64bit Some basic questions I am running postfix as group "postfix" although mailman *without* --with-mail-gid=postfix (imlies --with-mail-gid=mailman right?) Mail comes through fine... is this OK? I am running apache 2.0.52 as group "apache2" and mailman *with* --with-cgi-gid=apache2 Although if I want the web interface to work I must..... su - mailman cd /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin chmod g+s * I can't decide whether these files should have been like this already?? check_perms found no errors!! but everything I've read suggest that these are wrapped by the code which does the bale out if the calling gid is not correct from a fresh install I have no binary that is setgid mailman only directories Is the installation broken? what other files need to be setgid? /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman is *not* setgid but postfix can pipe to that OK, Also, should I end up with "any" files being owned by apache2? after using the web interface to add a list I found that aliases, aliases.db and virtual-mailman.db were still the original ownership but virtual-mailman had been claimed ownership by apache2.... is this right, If anyone can provide a.... `ls -laR` of /usr/local/mailman from as clean an installation as possible to robshep atttt informatics d0t bangor.ac.uk , it would be most appreciated. Cheers Rob -- /** * Rob Shepherd, * University Of Wales, Bangor, * School of Informatics, * Dean Street, * Bangor, * Gwynedd, UK /\ /\ * LL57 1UT / \/ \ /\ * --------------/---/ \--\---- * * robshep(a)informatics.bangor.ac.uk * * +44 (0) 1248 38 27 */

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Sendmail smrsh + multiple mailman
by Ashley M. Kirchner 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

I have a bit of an odd one here. I have multiple mailman installations on one machine (for reasons we won't detail here) as follows: ~mailman/<host1_list>/<mailman install for one specific hostname> ~mailman/<host2_list>/<mailman install for another specific hostname> etc. When e-mail for test@host1_list arrives, it goes into the appropriate folder and does what Mailman does best. The same for test@host_2, etc., etc. (this setup allows me to have the same list name across multiple domains, behaving as individual lists) The problem I'm running into now is sendmail's smrsh. I can copy the wrapper from one of those hosts into sendmail smrsh's folder, however it will only work for that one host installation. It won't work for the next. And since all the wrappers are called 'mailman', obviously I can't copy all of them in the same (smrsh) folder. So, my question, or questions: a) Is there an easy solution to this where smrsh will work? b) If not, can the 'mailman' wrapper be renamed? (this of course means aliases also get adjusted accordingly) -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

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QRUNNER processes running high on CPU rates
by Chance Eppinette 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Hello, I am still having problems with a list which has about 13,000 subscribers. The system seems to be overwhelmed by bounce processing. I am running Mailman 2.1.5 on a Solaris 2.8 SunFire -280R. The CPU rate is hovering around 45% for the qrunner bounce process. The list has purged out about 1100 disabled subscribers over this weekend, but for some reason is still churning away about nothing - it seems. I have tried to stop and restart the Mailman services but that takes extra steps as well... "S98mailman stop" doesn't kill all Mailman processes. I have to kill them manually and this is after waiting up to 10 minutes or so for S98mailman. Also, while the qrunner process is running high CPU rates, we can't login to this specific list via the web interface. Is it possible I have a corrupted Mailman installation or something? Chance Eppinette Technology Support Manager ULM Computing Center eppinette(a)ulm.edu 318-342-5021 (phone) 318-342-5018 (fax)

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Old config data
by Rob Shepherd 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Dear Mailman'ers Is there any way I can extract the config variables --with-mail-gid and --with-cgi-gid from my setup. anything, nums or strings... I lost my old building script for 2.1.5 2.1.5 worked pretty much fine, and i didn't have to rebuild it to get the mail/web gids right so this time round I just picked the options I thought I picked last time. postfix runs as 'postfix' apache2 runs as 'apache2' so this time I ran ./configure --with-cgi-gid=apache2 but I get command failed: /usr/.../postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Not owner) After trying to add my first virtual list and getting..... my data dir subsequently like this........neither db file were (re)generated mailman@skyflash:~/data >ls -la total 94 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Jun 19 15:54 . drwxrwsr-x 20 mailman mailman 512 Jun 19 15:03 .. -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 41 Jun 19 15:39 adm.pw -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 2039 Jun 19 15:54 aliases -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 24576 Jun 19 15:24 aliases.db -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 10 Jun 19 15:12 last_mailman_version -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 5 Jun 19 15:29 master-qrunner.pid -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 14110 Jun 19 15:03 sitelist.cfg -rw-rw---- 1 apache2 mailman 1275 Jun 19 15:54 virtual-mailman Any insight to the above appreciated Regarding the item in the FAQ about adding apache to the postfix group, I disregarded this because it all worked in 2.1.5 without this addition... ps. uname -a SunOS skyflash 5.9 Generic_117171-15 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10 Rob -- /** * Rob Shepherd, * University Of Wales, Bangor, */

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why txt files ??
by Jean-Philippe GIOLA 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Hi all! I want to know why mailman developpers have choosen to store mails in txt files and not in a database like a forum ?? reguards -- Jean-Philippe Giola - 6577

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Install errors
by Ashley M. Kirchner 19 Jun '05

19 Jun '05

I'm installing mailman 2.1.6 on a fresh system running FC4 (fresh being that it was just installed.) Configure and make went without a problem, but when I went to install it, my screen got filled with many many lines of this: src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function â€˜encode_euc_jpâ€™: src/_japanese_codecs.c:147: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function â€˜encode_shift_jisâ€™: src/_japanese_codecs.c:381: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function â€˜encode_ms932â€™: .... In file included from src/_koco.c:49: src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1494: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness .... In file included from src/_koco.c:50: src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1614: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness It is a very very long list of lines like that. Someone care to explain? Is it just because of the Japanese characters? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

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