Mailman 3 August 2005 - Mailman-Users

preserve feature
by Sean 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Hi, In mailman 2.1.5, when tending to held posts there is a 'Preserve messages for the site administrator' option under the 'Action to take on all these held messages.' If Accept, Reject, or Discard is selected the message gets removed from the Administrative requests page. Only if Defer is selected does the message remain there. Am I missing something as to the functionality of the 'Preserve messages for the site administrator' option? Thanks, Sean

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I'm getting a 95% mass bounce action
by David Spake 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Hey all, I've got a problem with Mailman, and I'm unsure as to how to correct it. My host provider runs MailMan 2.1.5. I like it, but the problem I'm having is that I keep getting periodic mass bouncings my list. I get like a 95% "bounce action notification" every three or four weeks. I've got the bounce processor turned off, and all the notifications come to me, so the users are unaware (as far as I can tell). What causes it, is beyond my understanding. I've looked at the posts that are just prior to the mass bounce notificiations, and they don't look any different than any other post. What, if anything, can I do to try and track this down. I don't mind unbouncing everyone (it's only 60 users or so), but 5 times this month has gotten old. Granted I'm a user on a hosted system, but the admin's are really laid back, and I've worked closely with them for almost 6 years now. I'm pretty sure they'd take any suggestions for actions very seriously. Thanks for your ideas, Dave

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Error during mailman runs
by Sean Roe 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Hi All, I am getting the following errors durring mailman runs: mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out# Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 270, in ? main() File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 230, in main qrunner.run() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 87, in run self._cleanup() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 220, in _cleanup BounceMixin._cleanup(self) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 132, in _cleanup self._register_bounces() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 120, in _register_bounces mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg, day=day) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 108, in registerBounce info = self.getBounceInfo(member) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py", line 530, in getBounceInfo row[2], row[0]) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 5 arguments (6 given) What does this mean? Thanks, Sean

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startup error in mailman
by Sean Roe 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Hi All, I am getting the following error whenever I start up mailman: mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/Mailman# ../bin/mailmanctl start Traceback (most recent call last): File "../bin/mailmanctl", line 547, in ? main() File "../bin/mailmanctl", line 366, in main check_for_site_list() File "../bin/mailmanctl", line 276, in check_for_site_list sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 104, in __init__ self._memberadaptor = MysqlMemberships(self) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py", line 118, in __init__ self.cursor.execute ("""CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS %s ( File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py", line 137, in execute self.errorhandler(self, exc, value) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py", line 33, in defaulterrorhandler raise errorclass, errorvalue _mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1044, "Access denied for user 'web_site'@'192.168.%' to database 'mailman'") Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "MysqlMemberships instance has no attribute 'conn'" in <bound method MysqlMemberships.__del__ of <Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships instance at 0x404645ec>> ignored Mailman no longer starts at this point. Nothing has changed that I am aware of, I have connected from the mailman server to the database server with the mysql client using the same username and password and was successful, so I am at a loss. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks, Sean

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MIME "mulitpart/mixed boundary" re-arrangement causes digital signature to fail
by Donald Wong 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Is it possible to make mailman leave the entire content of a message with untouched (example, multipart MIME messages) The Problem: When trying to send a digitally signed (SSL cert) email to a Mailman list, using Mozilla Thunderbird in this case, the recipients on the list would see the signature as Not Valid. We've pinpointed the problem to that Mailman would parse the entire email message and re-arrange the MIME header/content, thus rendering the signature invalid. What Mailman would change is to strip the newline character that's in between "Content-Type:..." and "boundary", as the "Content-Type:multipart/mixed" header with newline is added by Thunderbird when attaching a file attachment (including vcard). While either having or not having the newline will conform to RFC MIME specifications(or so I was led to believe) thus making it a correct behaviour in that sense, it's definitely wrecking the signature. Example: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------digitsdigits" I've also tried to test with Outlook Express and it would produce the same result. So I think the easiest way to solve this is somehow configure Mailman to not rearrange the message while processing the message. On the server side, we're using Mailman 2.1.5 on a Fedora Core 3 system, and the mailman rpm is the one built by redhat.

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How to Create Mailing list for sub-domain?
by gbteh＠epcombb.org 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Hi, Thanks for your wonderful program that help me to maintain the mailing list. I am a mailman user. My domain name is epcombb.org I have tried to create a sub-domain recently names clhs.epcombb.org. I managed created mailing list for it. BUT whenever I tried to click on the Edit link to enter into the mailing list administration, http://mail.clhs.epcombb.org/mailman/admin/clhs_clhs.epcombb.org, an error page appear The page cannot be displayed. Can someone help me? Or there is NO way out at the moment so I can stop trying. Can we create mailing list for sub-domain? Appreciate your reply. Thanks Regards GB

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Best way to limit list admin power?
by Dave Halsema 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hi all! I am looking for a way to limit some of the abilities a list administrator has over their subscribers on the subscriber member option pages. Specifically, I'd like to disable the list administrator from being able to globally change anything for the user, disable viewing the other subscriptions, and even disable the setting of a password. I don't mind the administrator being able to change things for a subscriber for the particular list they administer, but I don't want them affecting user options on other lists. What's the best way to do this? Has anyone else had to deal with this issue in a large Mailman installation? If so, what have you done? -Dave

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Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14
by Chuck Vohs 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

I have followed the steps (great job BTW) at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp and I can't find the solution. I have mailman version 2.1.6 installed with cPanel on RH 7.3, sending mail through exim. I have several lists running. All used to work just fine. Last week, 2 lists stopped sending mail. Each responds to commands, but posts are just not sent. I can't see where they are dying at. Messages sent to the lists by nonmembers are held as pending, and I get an email to approve or reject. When I approve, the message is never sent. Very weird. Any help, please? Chuck

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All members treated as nonmembers redux
by David Josephson 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

We had a list (MM 2.1.5 under sendmail) suddenly stop working, with logs showing that all incoming messages (from members and nonmembers alike) were being discarded. Configs had been set to discard without copying to the list admin, and it is a relatively low volume list, so it wasn't noticed for a while. During troubleshooting we re-enabled forward_auto_discards and the moderator approval page for each incoming post showed "post by nonmember to members-only list" *and* "poster is a member of ... list." Following up on an earlier answer to this sort of problem, we commented out the SENDER_HEADERS = ('from') line in mm_cfg.py and this fixed the problem. Question is, how did this break in the first place? And why did it apply to only one list? Other lists, and new lists created since then, work fine. There is mention of being able to modify member checking on a per-list basis but I was not able to find where to do this. There was a server reboot (for other reasons) at about the same time this problem appeared. During this debugging process we also upgraded from 2.1.5 to 2.1.6, could this have been a default of the 2.1.6 install, and the real problem was something else? Thanks ... David Josephson

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envelope sender address massaging?
by Dave Rasmussen 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

We have a problem here on campus that I'm sure other sites have addressed. We currently use user(a)uwm.edu as our users addresses but in the past and with some remaining legacy systems they still have user(a)csd.uwm.edu. In listproc I used to have an alias file to set to do this for all the users that would come along and just translate csd.uwm.edu to uwm.edu. This was not a whitelist by the way. Is there a way to do this with mailman?

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