Mailman 3 December 2006 - Mailman-Users

Remove "/mailman" from URL?
by Barry Finkel 21 Dec '06

21 Dec '06

I am not sure if this is a Mailman question or an Apache 2 question. I have Mailman 2.1.5+ (Ubuntu) installed on a test machine. The URL for web pages is https://lists-dev.it.example.com/mailman Since this machine will only be used for Mailman, we want to eliminate the "/mailman" piece of the URL. I am not an Apache expert, but I could not find a way of accomplishing this. Is there a way to do this? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Archiving only certain topics and/or the "default" topic
by Kelly Jones 20 Dec '06

20 Dec '06

I admin a mailing list that receives two types of messages: 1. Important human-typed messages that should be archived 2. Transient machine-generated messages that people may want to read, but which lose value rapidly, and, therefore, shouldn't be archived. I've set up topics so that all the transient messages have their own topic (they're machine-generated so the subjects always match known regexps). Can I set up mailman/pipermail to not archive the transient messages, and only archive the important ones? In other words, archive messages that match no topic, but don't archive the messages that do match a topic? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.

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Retrieving member list
by Greg Wilkinson 20 Dec '06

20 Dec '06

There are many messages on this topic, however I haven't found the answer to my particular situation. I am a list administrator but I am not a member of the list. The list viewing option is set to all members. When I send the email command "who <admpassword>" to the list, it is rejected with the "You are not allowed to retrieve the list membership." error message. One would think the list administrator would have access to the list whether on the list or not. What would I need to do to retrieve the list as administrator?

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problem tracking down discard reason
by Ron Brogden 20 Dec '06

20 Dec '06

Hello. I have a list admin who is attempting to legitimately post to a Mailman list (version 2.1.9) but Mailman is discarding the message: Dec 18 12:42:42 2006 (168) Message discarded, msgid: <00f101c722e4$ce2ad570$3200a8c0@SKIPPER> Here is the exim log showing the message arriving (domain changed of course): 2006-12-18 12:42:41 1GwPJo-000MhT-Jp <= test(a)example.com H=mail.example.com (example.com) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=54593 id=00f101c722e4$ce2ad570$3200a8c0@SKIPPER T="Subject Line Here" The administrator gets a discard notice but there is no mention of specifically why the message was discarded. Is there any option anyone is aware of to make logging of discards more verbose? Looking in the code, the discard error appears to get logged here: Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py (line 163) except Errors.DiscardMessage: # Throw the message away; we need do nothing else with it. syslog('vette', 'Message discarded, msgid: %s', msg.get('message-id', 'n/a')) return 0 Is there any attribute that I can use with the msg.get method (or any other method for that matter) to add in a note as to why the message was actually discarded? Any help appreciated. Cheers, Ron -- islandnet.com http://www.islandnet.com support(a)islandnet.com ph: (250) 383-0096 fax: (250) 383-6698

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman cgi's via Web Server
by Mark Sapiro 20 Dec '06

20 Dec '06

James Farren wrote: > >If not running under SuExec, how it is supposed to run on Name Based Virtual >Host -apache2 based machine? Since User and Group don't work in this environment, either configure Mailman's CGI wrappers to expect the group that Apache runs them as without SuExec, or follow some of the references that I provided or see the FAQ at <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.017.htp> and make SuExec work. If you do the latter and find the FAQ lacking, please update it. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Mail delivery notification
by Andres Tarallo 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

We're deploying mailman to deliver information to a lot of people (1200 suscribers). The suscribers can't post to the list. We need to receive a notification that the suscribers had received the mail. We where thinking in adding a header that makes the mail client return an automatic answer. Any help will be appreciated Andres

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman cgi's via Web Server
by Mark Sapiro 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

James Farren wrote: > >Doesn't work. this is what I get. > >[2006-12-19 21:49:27]: uid: (72/mailman) gid: (67/67) cmd: admin >[2006-12-19 21:49:27]: cannot run as forbidden uid (72/admin) > > >I am out of clues... I assume the above refers to: >> > SuexecUserGroup domain domain >> >> >> I think the above may need to be >> >> SuexecUserGroup mailman mailman >This is very general problem that should be addressed and looked into. The issue is that there are problems trying to run Mailman under SuExec. The Mailman project doesn't recommend this. Once again see the posts linked below and the things they link to. >> In general, there are difficulties with SuExec and Mailman. See for >> example, the posts at >> <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-December/054801.html> >> and >> <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-December/054802.html> >> and other things they point to. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Mailman + postfix + cyrus + ldap
by Jim John 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

Hello. We have configured postfix + cyrus + ldap, but would like to add mailman for mailing lists. Is that possible with out setup? All delivery is through the cyrus-tranport which puts mail in the cyrus mailbox. We are not sure how mailman delivery would work in this environment? Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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FW: Wrong group
by Ralph Utbult 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

Ooops - sent this to Dan instead of the list... > > I run mailman with Postfix. Have MTA='Postfix' and have run > check_perm > > a number of times, with -f How do I tweak the mail server (a.k..a > > Postfix) to run the script as group "mail"? > > If you installed Mailman from source, it's usually much easier to > follow the other suggested fix: rerun configure the > "--with-mail- gid=mailman" option. If you installed from a package > that might be more difficult. Please tell us what version of Mailman > you're using and how it was installed. > > Dan Installed package via X (Gnome). Version 2.1.9. Since I'm not a regular Un*x administrator (fix some simple mail problem once a month) I tend to like GUI over CMD ;-) Todd, my /usr/lib/mailman/subdir-files all have mail as GUID. Isn't that suppose to mean mail client (Postfix)? Silly question, is the mail wrapper the /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman file? Aliases is root mail and aliases.db is mail mail Isn't group mailman used at all? /Ralph

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Unable to access Mailman cgi's via Web Server
by James Farren 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

I have a major problems executing mailman cgi's via web server. I am getting very desperate right now since I don't see a solution to this problem. Is there a ways to make this work and what should I do? --- When accessing: http://domain.com/mailman/admin suexec.log: [2006-12-17 22:26:17]: uid: (500/domain) gid: (500/500) cmd: admin [2006-12-17 22:26:17]: command not in docroot (/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admin) chown /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 18215 2006-10-13 20:07 admin virtual host config: <VirtualHost *:*> SuexecUserGroup domain domain ServerName domain.com ServerAlias www.domain.com DocumentRoot /home/domain/public_html ErrorLog /home/domain/logs/error_log CustomLog /home/domain/logs/access_log combined ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /mailmanicons/ /usr/lib/mailman/icons/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /home/domain/public_html> Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Indexes AllowOverride All Allow from all </Directory> <Directory /home/domain/cgi-bin> Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Indexes AddHandler cgi-script .pl AllowOverride all Allow from all </Directory> <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin> Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Indexes order allow,deny allow from all </Directory> <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/icons> order allow,deny allow from all </Directory> <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/> Options +FollowSymLinks order allow,deny allow from all </Directory> </VirtualHost> I also found good description to this problem: http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2005/04/28/suse-versus-mailman/ Configuration: SuSE 9.3 Mailman Version: 2.1.5-5.3 Installed: 2.1.5-5.12 Thank You James

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