Mailman 3 December 2006 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 64
by AMBROSE CHRISTOPHER 27 Dec '06

27 Dec '06

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BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no > trailing empty > line (Stephen J. Turnbull) > 7. Re: BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and > no trailing > empty line (Brad Knowles) > 8. Re: mailman not sending post (Brad Knowles) > > From: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com> > To: Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:28:07 -0800 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman not sending post > > Hi there, > > mailman-2.1.9 > sendmail 8.13.8 > python-2.4.3 > freebsd-4.11 > > > Mailman has been running on my machine for years. > I host about 50 or > so lists with virtual hostnames being sued for some > of them. > > recently mailman has not mailed posts to a specific > list, and I cant > figure out why. > I see the mailman post mail being accepted by > sendmail and piped to > mailman but mailman does nothing with the post. No > trace of the post in > the /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp or the > /usr/local/mailman/logs/post > > I cant find a related trace dumped in the mailman > error logs. > > subscribes and unsubscribes piped to mailman work > fine > like mail sent to <listname>-subscribe(a)domain.com > gets piped > |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe > <listname> just fine by sendmail > mailman sends a confirmation mail just fine as well. > > there is one file in the > /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/shunt directory from > october 7th 2006. > > Mailman properly handles and delivers posts to all > other lists. I > really am not sure what else to check. > > cheers, > > Noah > > > > > > From: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com> > To: Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:52:52 -0800 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] BoundaryError: No > terminating boundary and no > trailing empty line > > freebsd-4.11 > sendmail-8.13.8 > mailman-2.1.9_1 > python-2.4.3 > > > any clues why mailman keeps dumping the following > error trace in > /usr/local/mailman/logs/error ? Happens about every > hour or so or > sometimes minutes apart. > > > --- snip --- > > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Ignoring unparseable > message: > 1166121349.6141329+c811d30798575d4ca57b9a0552a1d394a95c8ff1 > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Uncaught runner > exception: No terminating > boundary and no trailing empty line > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Traceback (most recent > call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", > line 100, in _oneloop > msg, msgdata = > self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", > line 164, in > dequeue > msg = email.message_from_string(msg, > Message.Message) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", > line 51, in > message_from_string > return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 75, in parsestr > return self.parse(StringIO(text), > headersonly=headersonly) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 64, in parse > self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 240, in > _parsebody > msgobj = self.parsestr(part) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 75, in parsestr > return self.parse(StringIO(text), > headersonly=headersonly) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 64, in parse > self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 265, in > _parsebody > msg = self.parse(fp) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 64, in parse > self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 206, in > _parsebody > raise Errors.BoundaryError( > BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no > trailing empty line > > --- snip --- > > > From: Chris Florio <cflorio(a)citadel97.com> > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:13:45 -0500 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] OS X Permissions Help. > > Hello all, > > I'm trying to get mailman working on my intel based > Mac Mini running > 10.4.8 (NOT OS X Server). I'm running Postfix > configured using > http://cutedgesystems.com/software/MailServe/ > > I have configured and installed mailman using some > instructions I > found here: > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045697.html > > The problem is, it looks like i have a group or > ownership problem > somewhere. > > As the instructions said, I configured using: > > sudo ./configure --prefix=/Applications/mailman > --with-cgi-gid=www -- > with-mail-gid=mailman > > > Using the instructions from the list I found, I am > getting this error > posting to a list I created: > > ... > > The Postfix program > > <alumni(a)citadel97.com>: Command died with status 2: > "/Applications/mailman/mail/mailman post > alumni". Command > output: Group > mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail > wrapper script to be > executed as > group "mailman", but the system's mail server > executed the mail > script as > group "www". Try tweaking the mail server to > run the script as > group > "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the > command line option > `--with-mail-gid=www'. > > > ... > > So, I tried again using: > > sudo ./configure --prefix=/Applications/mailman > --with-cgi-gid=www -- > with-mail-gid=www > > And then I get this error: > > The Postfix program > > <alumni(a)citadel97.com>: Command died with status 2: > "/Applications/mailman/mail/mailman post > alumni". Command > output: Group > mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail > wrapper script to be > executed as > group "www", but the system's mail server > executed the mail > script as group > "mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run > the script as > group "www", > or re-run configure, providing the command > line option > `--with-mail-gid=mailman'. > > .... > > > Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > > > > > From: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com> > To: Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:01:59 -0800 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman not sending post > > Hi there, > > mailman-2.1.9 > sendmail 8.13.8 > python-2.4.3 > freebsd-4.11 > > > Mailman has been running on my machine for years. > I host about 50 or > so lists with virtual hostnames being sued for some > of them. > > recently mailman has not mailed posts to a specific > list, and I cant > figure out why. > I see the mailman post mail being accepted by > sendmail and piped to > mailman but mailman does nothing with the post. No > trace of the post in > the /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp or the > /usr/local/mailman/logs/post > > I cant find a related trace dumped in the mailman > error logs. > > subscribes and unsubscribes piped to mailman work > fine > like mail sent to <listname>-subscribe(a)domain.com > gets piped > |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe > <listname> just fine by sendmail > mailman sends a confirmation mail just fine as well. > > there is one file in the > /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/shunt directory from > october 7th 2006. > > Mailman properly handles and delivers posts to all > other lists. I > really am not sure what else to check. > > cheers, > > Noah > > > > > > > From: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com> > To: Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:02:06 -0800 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] BoundaryError: No > terminating boundary and no > trailing empty line > > freebsd-4.11 > sendmail-8.13.8 > mailman-2.1.9_1 > python-2.4.3 > > > any clues why mailman keeps dumping the following > error trace in > /usr/local/mailman/logs/error ? Happens about every > hour or so or > sometimes minutes apart. > > > --- snip --- > > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Ignoring unparseable > message: > 1166121349.6141329+c811d30798575d4ca57b9a0552a1d394a95c8ff1 > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Uncaught runner > exception: No terminating > boundary and no trailing empty line > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Traceback (most recent > call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", > line 100, in _oneloop > msg, msgdata = > self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", > line 164, in > dequeue > msg = email.message_from_string(msg, > Message.Message) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", > line 51, in > message_from_string > return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 75, in parsestr > return self.parse(StringIO(text), > headersonly=headersonly) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 64, in parse > self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 240, in > _parsebody > msgobj = self.parsestr(part) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 75, in parsestr > return self.parse(StringIO(text), > headersonly=headersonly) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 64, in parse > self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 265, in > _parsebody > msg = self.parse(fp) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 64, in parse > self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) > File > "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line > 206, in > _parsebody > raise Errors.BoundaryError( > BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no > trailing empty line > > --- snip --- > > > > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> > CC: Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > To: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com> > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:21:17 +0900 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] BoundaryError: No > terminating boundary and > no trailing empty line > > Noah writes: > > > any clues why mailman keeps dumping the following > error trace in > > /usr/local/mailman/logs/error ? Happens about > every hour or so or > > sometimes minutes apart. > > Probably for the same reason you repeatedly post to > Mailman Users: it > wants attention to its pain. > > For future reference, the folks (not me! I show up > when I feel like > it) who monitor this list are knowledgeable and > conscientious, in the > extreme, and it is *very* rare that posts get > dropped on the floor. > Typical response times are in the range 30 minutes > to 36 hours, > depending on random factors. > > Check that your post has appeared in the archives, > and if so, give it > a day at least. Don't waste the interval; read the > FAQ[1], search the > list archives (a search for the error message, in > this case "Ignoring > unparseable message", is strongly recommended), > collect more log data, > etc. If your post doesn't appear within a day, you > may wish to send > mail to the list administrator. It's possible that > your post got > inadvertantly snagged by a spam filter, and you'll > need help getting > past that. > > > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Ignoring unparseable > message: > > > 1166121349.6141329+c811d30798575d4ca57b9a0552a1d394a95c8ff1 > > The hash code above identified the problem message. > I believe you > will find a file by that name (with extension .pck) > in the "qfiles" > directory of your Mailman data area, and if you move > it somewhere > else, Mailman will stop complaining. It happens > regularly because > Mailman tries to process the files in that directory > on a regular > basis, until all deliveries scheduled for it are > complete. > > It's possible that you are the target of a spambot, > in which case you > may not find the file (because it's been shunted to > the "shunt" > directory), and you will see that all the message > IDs are different in > the logs, because the spambot is sending a new copy > at hourly > intervals. > > > Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Uncaught runner > exception: No terminating > > boundary and no trailing empty line > > You've got a badly-formed MIME message in the queue. > It could be > spam, it could simply be the product of a Microsoft > mail client, it > could be broken by a relay MTA, or it could be that > you ran out of > diskspace and it got truncated (seems unlikely, > given the care that > Postfix and Mailman take to not do such things). > > Use the bin/show_qfiles script to examine the > contents of that file. > Simply changing to the mailman data area (on my > Debian system it's > /var/lib/mailman, YMMV) running bin/show_qfiles > without arguments will > give you a usage message. > > > Footnotes: > [1] The whole thing, both the static one and the > FAQ Wizard. If it's > not important enough to read the whole FAQ, which > isn't as much fun as > a Sidney Sheldon novel but is also much shorter, it > probably can wait > a day or a week. > > > > From: Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> > CC: Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > To: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:23:47 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] BoundaryError: No > terminating boundary and > no trailing empty line > > At 12:21 PM +0900 12/27/06, Stephen J. Turnbull > wrote: > > > For future reference, the folks (not me! I show > up when I feel like > > it) who monitor this list are knowledgeable and > conscientious, in the > > extreme, and it is *very* rare that posts get > dropped on the floor. > > Typical response times are in the range 30 > minutes to 36 hours, > > depending on random factors. > > This is the day after Christmas. Any time anyone is > posting to any > mailing list for the two to three week period of > time starting a few > days before Christmas and ending a few days after > the first of > January, it's going to be slow. During these times, > people who post > to the list can count on replies taking a lot longer > to be posted. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <brad(a)shub-internet.org> > > Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the > stop.mail-abuse.org > mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If > you have an old > e-mail account for me at this domain, please make > sure you correct that > with the current address. > > > From: Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> > To: Noah <admin2(a)enabled.com>, > Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:29:02 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not sending > post > > At 4:01 PM -0800 12/26/06, Noah wrote: > > > recently mailman has not mailed posts to a > specific list, and I cant > > figure out why. > > You've recently posted a few times to this list, on > two separate > subjects. I strongly suspect that these two issues > are actually > related -- what you're not finding in this > particular case is likely > to be the stuff you are finding in the other case. > > > Mailman properly handles and delivers posts to > all other lists. I > > really am not sure what else to check. > > Check all other unusual activity. Look in all the > logs that Mailman > creates, and all the system log files that may be > created by your MTA. > > Make sure to take a look in the FAQ wizard -- > there's lots of good > troubleshooting tips in there. In fact, I recommend > that you search > on the word "troubleshooting", among other things. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <brad(a)shub-internet.org> > > Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the > stop.mail-abuse.org > mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If > you have an old > e-mail account for me at this domain, please make > sure you correct that > with the current address. > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line
by Noah 26 Dec '06

26 Dec '06

freebsd-4.11 sendmail-8.13.8 mailman-2.1.9_1 python-2.4.3 any clues why mailman keeps dumping the following error trace in /usr/local/mailman/logs/error ? Happens about every hour or so or sometimes minutes apart. --- snip --- Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Ignoring unparseable message: 1166121349.6141329+c811d30798575d4ca57b9a0552a1d394a95c8ff1 Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Uncaught runner exception: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 164, in dequeue msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 51, in message_from_string return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 75, in parsestr return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 240, in _parsebody msgobj = self.parsestr(part) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 75, in parsestr return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 265, in _parsebody msg = self.parse(fp) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 206, in _parsebody raise Errors.BoundaryError( BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line --- snip ---

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mailman not sending post
by Noah 26 Dec '06

26 Dec '06

Hi there, mailman-2.1.9 sendmail 8.13.8 python-2.4.3 freebsd-4.11 Mailman has been running on my machine for years. I host about 50 or so lists with virtual hostnames being sued for some of them. recently mailman has not mailed posts to a specific list, and I cant figure out why. I see the mailman post mail being accepted by sendmail and piped to mailman but mailman does nothing with the post. No trace of the post in the /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp or the /usr/local/mailman/logs/post I cant find a related trace dumped in the mailman error logs. subscribes and unsubscribes piped to mailman work fine like mail sent to <listname>-subscribe(a)domain.com gets piped |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe <listname> just fine by sendmail mailman sends a confirmation mail just fine as well. there is one file in the /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/shunt directory from october 7th 2006. Mailman properly handles and delivers posts to all other lists. I really am not sure what else to check. cheers, Noah

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Migrating to new server...
by Will Nordmeyer 23 Dec '06

23 Dec '06

Hi, I'm preparing to migrate my mailman V2.1.9 (just upgraded from 2.1.8 last night) lists, etc. to a new server. I found this article http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg11052.html directing me how to back up/restore, etc. It tells me to back up config.db for each list. I don't have/can't find any config.db files within the mailman system. How bad is that? --Will

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mailman not archiving
by Anne Hammond 23 Dec '06

23 Dec '06

I moved a mailing list from another host. First on the target host, created a similar list, then used add_members -f {from list_members on old host} list name. Then I tarred the archives from the old host, mv'd /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list to list.save untarred the archives into the same list name The top level directory is drwxrwsr-x 36 apache mailman 4096 Dec 22 11:51 list-users The next level down is owned by mailman.mailman. In the web interface, the archiving option is set to yes. How can I troubleshoot? I've read the FAQ but didn't find a recipe for migrating to another host (perhaps I should write it :) Thanks in advance. Anne Anne M. Hammond - Systems / Network Administration - Tech-X Corp hammond_at_txcorp.com 720-974-1840

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BlackJack Anyone??
by cormikeal＠quickstockpower.com 22 Dec '06

22 Dec '06

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Problem hooking mailman up with sendmail
by stupidmail4me 22 Dec '06

22 Dec '06

I'm pulling my hair out on this one. I have mailman working on one machine and can't get it to work on another with the exact same config. Here's the setup: OpenBSD 4.0 Mailman 2.1.8p3 I have in my mc file I have VIRTUSER_DOMAIN(`lists.foo.org') set (and yes, I've run m4 and made the cf file). In mailertable I've got lists.foo.org mailman:lists.foo.org. But if I try and send a message I get a 550 5.1.1 User Unknown. What am I doing wrong? For the life of me I'v tried everything?!?!?!?! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Bounce stats
by Josh Baird 21 Dec '06

21 Dec '06

Is there a way to see bounce statistics? I am interested in seeing the number of bounces per message, and maybe the contents of the bounce message? Thanks

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Basic Question, I want only the admin to be able to send emails to the list
by Jed Herzog 21 Dec '06

21 Dec '06

Hello List, I have what I hope is a very basic question. I am setting up a list using Mailman for the first time. I want only the list admin to be able to send emails to the list. I know I can set all the subscribers to be moderated but then the admin could be swamped with requests to send email that they will never want to send. Can I set up mailman to deny subscribers the right to send email to the list? Thank you in advance, Jed Herzog

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Copying Lists
by Josh Baird 21 Dec '06

21 Dec '06

Is there a way to copy LISTA to LISTB with the exact same settings? I need to make an identical copy of one list (the subscribers aren't really nessecery, but the settings are). Thanks, jb

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