Mailman 3 November 2011 - Mailman-Users

Archives Display Working Properly Now
by Tim O'Neal 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Many thanks and my apologies for asking an apparently non-Mailman question. My solution was to use DirectoryIndex index.html within the virtual host definition. I had had the DirectoryIndex within as follows: <IfModule dir_module> DirectoryIndex index.html </IfModule> This didn't seem to work. It might have to do with my using the mpm-itk apache core! Tim -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+toneal=suffolk.edu(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+toneal=suffolk.edu@python.org] On Behalf Of Tim O'Neal Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:17 AM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Archives Display not Formatting Properly Friends, I'm migrating my list server from Solaris 10 w/Apache 2.2.17 to RHEL 6 w/Apache 2.2.19 (or .21). For the life of me, I can't get the archive display to show anything other than what I've posted below (which is an Apache-httpd directory listing). If I have my Apache directory "options -Indexes", I don't get the listing at all, but if I have my Apache directory "options +Indexes" I get the listing below ===> (a standard apache directory listing). What I want to get is the standard Mailman archives display as follows: Everything else in my Mailman installation seems to work ..... using Postfix, etc. BTW, I'm using Apache mpm-itk core because I'm using this web server with many different Apache virtual hosts, which mpm-itk permits each virtual host to run within its own process/user/group, i.e. mailman/mailman. Any thoughts? TIA, Tim The Stu_serv_dir Archives You can get more information about this list<http://lists.suffolk.edu/mailman/listinfo/stu_serv_dir>. Archive View by: Downloadable version November 2011: [ Thread ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/thread.html> [ Subject ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/subject.html> [ Author ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/author.html> [ Date ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/date.html> [ Text 9 KB ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November.txt> October 2011: [ Thread ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/thread.html> [ Subject ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/subject.html> [ Author ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/author.html> [ Date ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/date.html> [ Text 43 KB ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October.txt> September 2011: [ Thread ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/thread.html> [ Subject ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/subject.html> [ Author ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/author.html> [ Date ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/date.html> [ Text 52 KB ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September.txt> Index of /pipermail/stu_serv_dir [[ICO]] Name<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=N;O=D> Last modified<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=M;O=A> Size<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=S;O=A> Description<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=D;O=A> ________________________________ [[DIR]] Parent Directory<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/> - [[TXT]] 2008-April.txt<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-April.txt> 05-Jun-2008 12:04 345 [[ ]] 2008-April.txt.gz<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-April.txt.gz> 12-Oct-2011 03:27 331 [[DIR]] 2008-April/<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-April/> 05-Jun-2008 12:04 - [[TXT]] 2008-August.txt<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-August.txt> 28-Aug-2008 13:17 3.1K ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/toneal%40suffolk.edu

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bounces not getting through for processing
by Anne Wainwright 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Hi, Sorry if this is a bit vague. I give an excerpt from a log file today. One of many with slightly different wordings depending on which server was responding. Some reporting me as 'exceeding the limit for bounced messages'. Oct 30 16:02:39 jason postfix/smtp[11547]: B6883E81A7: to=<fables-list-bounces+dmorris=inext.co.za(a)fables.co.za>, relay=smtp.isdsl.net[196.26.208.193]:25, conn_use=5, delay=45, delays=0.02/0/0.24/45, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host smtp.isdsl.net[196.26.208.193] said: 550 Sorry, I don't accept bounce messages with a invalid recipient. (in reply to RCPT TO command)) (some of the bounce addresses _were_ valid, I checked one, got an answer back from the addressee, but that could be a different issue) Verp is on as you can see. But on a run last week without verp we were left in the same situation as described here. There were a lot similar to this. I note that get_bounce_info shows no bounce information when I ran it after the run. anne@jason:~ ssh$ sudo /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -r get_bounce_info fables-list Importing get_bounce_info... Running get_bounce_info.get_bounce_info()... Loading list fables-list (unlocked) Bounce info for fables-list list ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Finalizing ditto bounce results for a small test list as well which has deliberate dud addresses on. Further, since I am running this through a relay, the relevant email account fables-list-bounces@ shows no activity whatsoever today. No bounce mail passed through there. Not a doubt that I should have had a lot of bounces on this list which has been dormant for months, and the log file did show plenty. Any idea where I might find the holdup? I suspect either the postfix configuration or something to do with the smtp relay isp. I don't think the bounces get back to the isp email account, are then not downloaded, are then not processed. ??? regards Anne

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Archives Display not Formatting Properly
by Tim O'Neal 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

Friends, I'm migrating my list server from Solaris 10 w/Apache 2.2.17 to RHEL 6 w/Apache 2.2.19 (or .21). For the life of me, I can't get the archive display to show anything other than what I've posted below (which is an Apache-httpd directory listing). If I have my Apache directory "options -Indexes", I don't get the listing at all, but if I have my Apache directory "options +Indexes" I get the listing below ===> (a standard apache directory listing). What I want to get is the standard Mailman archives display as follows: Everything else in my Mailman installation seems to work ..... using Postfix, etc. BTW, I'm using Apache mpm-itk core because I'm using this web server with many different Apache virtual hosts, which mpm-itk permits each virtual host to run within its own process/user/group, i.e. mailman/mailman. Any thoughts? TIA, Tim The Stu_serv_dir Archives You can get more information about this list<http://lists.suffolk.edu/mailman/listinfo/stu_serv_dir>. Archive View by: Downloadable version November 2011: [ Thread ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/thread.html> [ Subject ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/subject.html> [ Author ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/author.html> [ Date ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November/date.html> [ Text 9 KB ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-November.txt> October 2011: [ Thread ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/thread.html> [ Subject ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/subject.html> [ Author ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/author.html> [ Date ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October/date.html> [ Text 43 KB ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-October.txt> September 2011: [ Thread ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/thread.html> [ Subject ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/subject.html> [ Author ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/author.html> [ Date ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September/date.html> [ Text 52 KB ]<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2011-September.txt> Index of /pipermail/stu_serv_dir [[ICO]] Name<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=N;O=D> Last modified<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=M;O=A> Size<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=S;O=A> Description<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/?C=D;O=A> ________________________________ [[DIR]] Parent Directory<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/> - [[TXT]] 2008-April.txt<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-April.txt> 05-Jun-2008 12:04 345 [[ ]] 2008-April.txt.gz<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-April.txt.gz> 12-Oct-2011 03:27 331 [[DIR]] 2008-April/<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-April/> 05-Jun-2008 12:04 - [[TXT]] 2008-August.txt<http://lists.suffolk.edu/pipermail/stu_serv_dir/2008-August.txt> 28-Aug-2008 13:17 3.1K

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Misleading Email response. Please fix!
by Geoff Shang 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

Hi, I've been meaning to request this for ages. I don't see this very often, but when I do, it gives me a heart attack. I usually use the web interface for approving messages. But I occasionally do it via Email. When I do, I get a response back that looks like this: The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Confirmation succeeded - Unprocessed: Approved: <admin password> - Done. ---- CUT HERE ----------------------- To me at least, this suggests that the message has been rejected, not approved, as the text says that the approval command was not processed. I know this isn't the case because I see the message posted to the list, but when I initially saw it, I had a panic as I thought I'd lost a message for the list. Is it possible to fix this so that the message is more clear about what has happened? The "Confirmation succeeded" message is not very explanatory, and seen in isolation doesn't really tell you anythying about whether the message was approved or rejected. Geoff.

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Mailman lists now available on Gmane
by Barry Warsaw 13 Nov '11

13 Nov '11

I'm very happy to announce that at long last, the main GNU Mailman mailing lists hosted at python.org are now available on Gmane. This includes: mailman-announce mailman-developers mailman-users mailman-i18n All of the archives for these lists have been imported as well. If you're not familiar with Gmane, I strongly encourage you to take a look. It's an amazing service for the free software and open source community. http://gmane.org/ While web archives are available, for me, the NNTP access is the really cool thing. If your mail reader can speak NNTP (the good and still useful part of Usenet :), then you just need to subscribe to the newsgroups and you can read entire threads of discussion from the past. After the first email verification dance, you can even post to the newsgroup and it will show up on the mailing list. I'm on a personal mission to stop archiving any publicly available mailing lists, and what this means to me is that I can just about halve my inbox! Here are some links: http://gmane.org/find.php?list=mailman-announce http://gmane.org/find.php?list=mailman-developers http://gmane.org/find.php?list=mailman-users http://gmane.org/find.php?list=mailman-i18n The NNTP interface is also a model of what I'd love to see Mailman 3 eventually provide by default (not to steal any thunder from Gmane). My thanks to Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen who runs Gmame, and to the python.org postmasters for all their help in getting this set up. Enjoy, -Barry

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Sibling lists and list unsubscribe headers
by Tim 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

Hi All, I've set up a number of announce-lists and have nearly got things how I want them except for one issue. Here is my setup: 3 lists - parentList, siblingList1, siblingList2 siblingList1 and siblingList2 are set in regular_include_lists for parentList. user(a)domain.com is in lists siblingList1 and siblingList2 Everything is working perfectly as expected except for the list unsubscribe headers which refer to parentList. Firstly, the unsubscribe will never work because user(a)domain.com is not subscribed to parentList, and secondly, unless messages are sent to siblingList1 and siblingList2 (which is infrequent), the user will never be given the opportunity to unsubscribe. Is there anything I can do to make the headers etc match a list that user(a)domain.com is actually subscribed to? I have searched high and low but can't find a solution to my problem so any help/pointers would be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Tim

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Is Character Permitted
by David Andrews 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

Is the "&" character allowed in a list name, such as in: "art&artists?" Thanks!

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list not accepts mails
by deconya 09 Nov '11

09 Nov '11

Hi Im using mailman and Im having a problem only with one list. When I send a mail only appears logs in two files, smtp and vette. The list has the moderation bit activated, but never arrives to the queue. first appears: Nov 07 17:11:48 2011 (5454) <mailman.0.1320682307.18316.alum(a)lists.esci.es> smtp to alum for 1 recips, completed in 0.024 seconds Nov 07 17:11:48 2011 (5454) <mailman.1.1320682307.18316.alum(a)lists.esci.es> smtp to alum for 4 recips, completed in 0.064 seconds and finally in vette log: Nov 07 17:12:42 2011 (5452) Message discarded, msgid: <1320682361.4077.1.camel@infolinux> I can't localize any error but it's a big list (1300 users) and the log is so strange no? Any idea? Thanks

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mailman violates RFC 1153?
by Jonathan Kamens 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Someone recently contacted me because my Thunderbird "undigestify" add-on <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/undigestify/> is failing to unpack digests produced by Mailman 2.1.9. He sent me a sample digest, which ends like this: ------------------------------ -- test mailing list test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test End of test Digest, Vol 93, Issue 20 ************************************ RFC 1153 has this to say about the digest trailer (emphasis added by me): The Trailer immediately follows the blank line of message separator following the last enclosed message. The Trailer consists of two lines. The first line /*must */begin with the words, End of, followed by the listname a blank and the word Digest which is usually followed by volume and issue number on the same line. The second and last line of the Trailer and the entire message is a line of asterisks serving to underline the line immediately above it. I looked at the mailman source code and it doesn't appear that the Fedora Project is running a hacked version; it appears that the standard Mailman source code inserts the list footer as shown above as part of the digest trailer, in violation of the RFC. I can and will work around this violation of the standard in my code, but it makes the code significantly more complicated, and it's kind of annoying to see the RFC being violated like this. jik

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How to strip S/MIME attachments
by Adam Engst 04 Nov '11

04 Nov '11

Hi all, I'm trying to set my list so that it strips the S/MIME digital signature attachments that some mail software adds to every message (iOS 5 is a culprit here). However, no matter what I do, Mailman seems to see the message as not having content, such that it's forwarded to me, the list owner, rather than being sent on to the list. My content filtering settings are as follows: filter_content: Yes filter_mime_types: application/pkcs7-signature pass_mime_types: multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, text/plain filter_filename_extensions: exe, bat, cmd, com, pif, scr, vbs, cpl, p7s pass_filename_extensions: blank collapse_alternatives: Yes convert_html_to_plaintext: Yes filter_action: Forward to list owner In particular, note the filter_mime_types and the last entry in filter_filename_extensions, which are what I've added to try to get rid of these attachments. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong, or if I'm missing something that prevents Mailman from handling S/MIME attachments properly? cheers... -Adam

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