Mailman 3 April 2013 - Mailman-Users

Admin approval messages not being sent
by Christopher Adams 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

Hello, Confirmation messages sent to users are being sent successfully. Messages intended as approval for subscriptions and sent to the list administrators are not being sent. They appear as 'held subscription' in the mail logs. The list has the *admin_immed_notify* set to 'yes'. The cron /cron/checkdbs runs every morning at 8 am. I have read of possible Handler exceptions in Mailman, but the error logs don't show anything. What else could I look for to diagnose this problem? Thank you. -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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sync_members and "no message" status
by Ralf Hildebrandt 24 Apr '13

24 Apr '13

I'm using sync_members to keep our "all students" mailinglist up to date. Now, if a student's mailbox is over quota, his/her membership gets suspended due to bounces. And even if the student empties the mailbox, the address won't be enabled, since sync_members never resets the bounce status? Since I know my student's addresses to be valid, I should probably disable "automatic bounce processing", right? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de Campus Benjamin Franklin http://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155

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Sent mail from server to subscribers doesn't arrive
by Joost Doesburg 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

Dear Mailman users, I have installed Mailman on my CentOS 6 system with Postfix, and configured it for use with a virtual host. All seems to work OK. I can reach the web pages, can subscribe through mail, get the confirmation mails and can confirm, and get the sucbscription mail. However, when I try to send mail to the list, these messages don't arrive. I have setup several test accounts, and only the local account (on the server) seems to work, not the remote accounts which include a GMail account and an account for another domain not hosted on my server. The Postfix log (/var/log/maillog) says it sends out the messages but they never arrive, not even in any spam mailbox. I wonder if there's still something wrong with my setup which has SMTP servers reject my mails without bounce: Apr 21 12:17:27 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: connect from mail-wi0-f179.google.com[209.85.212.179] Apr 21 12:17:27 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: F251E2004BF: client= mail-wi0-f179.google.com[209.85.212.179] Apr 21 12:17:28 joost-vps postfix/cleanup[7342]: F251E2004BF: message-id=<CAD4hotnuSRasGJP2i7nCx5FiHRLF7RC7= RDb0++dDw4jd1X+zg(a)mail.gmail.com> Apr 21 12:17:28 joost-vps postfix/qmgr[3900]: F251E2004BF: from=< tsubasa.jm(a)gmail.com>, size=1752, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 21 12:17:28 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: disconnect from mail-wi0-f179.google.com[209.85.212.179] Apr 21 12:17:28 joost-vps postfix/local[7343]: F251E2004BF: to=<chat(a)joost-vps.localdomain>, orig_to=<chat(a)cardiacs.nl>, relay=local, delay=0.3, delays=0.06/0.03/0/0.22, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post chat) Apr 21 12:17:28 joost-vps postfix/qmgr[3900]: F251E2004BF: removed Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: connect from localhost[::1] Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: 9132C2004FA: client=localhost[::1] Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/cleanup[7342]: 9132C2004FA: message-id=<CAD4hotnuSRasGJP2i7nCx5FiHRLF7RC7= RDb0++dDw4jd1X+zg(a)mail.gmail.com> Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/qmgr[3900]: 9132C2004FA: from=< chat-bounces(a)cardiacs.nl>, size=2994, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: 978592004FD: client=localhost[::1] Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/cleanup[7342]: 978592004FD: message-id=<CAD4hotnuSRasGJP2i7nCx5FiHRLF7RC7= RDb0++dDw4jd1X+zg(a)mail.gmail.com> Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/qmgr[3900]: 978592004FD: from=< chat-bounces(a)cardiacs.nl>, size=2967, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtpd[7338]: disconnect from localhost[::1] Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/local[7343]: 978592004FD: to=<joost(a)joost-vps.localdomain>, relay=local, delay=0.04, delays=0.01/0/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtp[7345]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:400c:c03::1a]:25: Network is unreachable Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtp[7346]: connect to mail1.transip.nl[2a01:7c8:eb::eb1]:25: Network is unreachable Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/smtp[7345]: 9132C2004FA: to=< tsubasa.jm(a)gmail.com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.66.26]:25, delay=0.17, delays=0.02/0.06/0.04/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1366539449 k15si6403513wjq.192 - gsmtp) Apr 21 12:17:29 joost-vps postfix/qmgr[3900]: 9132C2004FA: removed Apr 21 12:17:45 joost-vps postfix/smtp[7346]: 978592004FD: to=< joost(a)sonogy.nl>, relay=mail1.transip.nl[95.170.72.4]:25, delay=16, delays=0.01/0.06/0.01/16, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 32EB7235A84D) Apr 21 12:17:45 joost-vps postfix/qmgr[3900]: 978592004FD: removed Also the post and smtp log seem fine: Apr 21 12:17:29 2013 (7332) post to chat from tsubasa.jm(a)gmail.com, size=2764, message-id=<CAD4hotnuSRasGJP2i7nCx5FiHRLF7RC7= RDb0++dDw4jd1X+zg(a)mail.gmail.com>, success Apr 21 12:42:18 2013 (1297) post to chat from tsubasa.jm(a)gmail.com, size=2755, message-id=< CAD4hotkcFwtUBdvD9vPvJakGrK8xO0zijjDXz2dUsb6_TrpQxQ(a)mail.gmail.com>, success But the messages just don't arrive. If it's any help, I can show a header of the mail which does arrive on the local machine: >From chat-bounces(a)cardiacs.nl Sun Apr 21 12:17:29 2013 Return-Path: <chat-bounces(a)cardiacs.nl> X-Original-To: joost(a)joost-vps.localdomain Delivered-To: joost(a)joost-vps.localdomain X-Original-To: chat(a)cardiacs.nl Delivered-To: chat(a)joost-vps.localdomain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=a68tmNwEGIl2gOI1MXyuncY14XCJ8m7zdRy1IVrmDfw=; b=Xanm4lU88mDr83tjH5rQBrcAKqgfiPrbtKMKuAICiORYp9PJ0lwRTxNDdylbMmi6eB zAyERIHYaH17N682OuIo7kpxUVtmMa95W0w0Ls6d12Xvfc6mFA6QX4oQT45Z8b7Utr1Z gTajnxv2IvoW5LaziCX7iC4Ib8cvRT4MzkdzMlxI40Ty7rC1fEfC+kY2JrnY37Cj018y Y9fM7QuwxObqMji7G4qner15IuH/tu4n1MEyK+tZLyY+O9bQJi6+0ALZPkEglrohRd4A FCdTiR5e3ATjXeMS1AJbzlmDUibNWmu1BZaQXIjg+T6LL+TFyq2bK6eGXdfg6BFzUBrc 3o2A== X-Received: by 10.194.142.236 with SMTP id rz12mr41927779wjb.12.1366539447803; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 03:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 12:17:27 +0200 From: Joost Doesburg <tsubasa.jm(a)gmail.com> To: chat(a)cardiacs.nl Subject: [Cardiacs Chat] Test 1 X-BeenThere: chat(a)cardiacs.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Cardiacs Chat <chat.cardiacs.nl> List-Unsubscribe: <http://cardiacs.nl/mailman/options/chat>, <mailto:chat-request@cardiacs.nl?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://cardiacs.nl/pipermail/chat/> List-Post: <mailto:chat@cardiacs.nl> List-Help: <mailto:chat-request@cardiacs.nl?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://cardiacs.nl/mailman/listinfo/chat>, <mailto:chat-request@cardiacs.nl?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4509372702274255321==" Sender: chat-bounces(a)cardiacs.nl Errors-To: chat-bounces(a)cardiacs.nl Status: RO And finally here's my personal edits to the config file: MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['cardiacs.nl'] DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'cardiacs.nl' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'cardiacs.nl' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) [root@joost-vps Mailman]# rpm -qa | grep mailman mailman-2.1.12-18.el6.x86_64 [root@joost-vps Mailman]# uname -a Linux joost-vps 2.6.32-358.2.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 13 00:26:49 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [root@joost-vps Mailman]# cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 6.4 (Final) I hope anyone can help. Thanks in advance! Regards, Joost.

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Don't reply to held messages
by Norbert Aschendorff 21 Apr '13

21 Apr '13

Hi, I'm the list administrator of a list which frequently receives spam messages which then are hold because of an implicit destination. As it isn't considered as clever to reply to spam mails (because it's a confirmation of the validity of your address to the spammer), is there the possibility to disable the automatic reply to a held message (/Your message to [List] awaits moderator approval/)? I didn't find information on the web (but maybe I just used the wrong keywords :) And yes, I know what I'm doing. Legitimate users will not experience held messages without information where the post is gone (because anyone may send mail to the list, only /require_explicit_destination/ holds posts -- and only spammers use implicit destinations) --Norbert

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moving a mailman server
by Con Wieland 18 Apr '13

18 Apr '13

Hello all, It has been a while since I've done this but I am moving one of our mailman servers to a new machine and upgrading at the same time from version 2.1.9 to version 2.1.14. I have in the past installed mailman, postfix, and apache and then copied the ~mailman/lists and ~mailman/archives files over and renamed the machine. With a few caveats I have made this work quite successfully before. This time it seems to work but the problem I am having is after I copy the lists they do not appear on the web interface when I goto: http://dev-maillists.nac.uci.edu/mailman/admin I only see list created locally on the server. I can goto the admin page and what not of other lists and things seem to work ok there. As always any help would be greatly appreciated Con Wieland University of California at Irvine

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member address in envolope ID and From: lines
by Al Black 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

Hi everyone, I'm working with an issue that is related to: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2012-March/073047.html> <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2012-June/073641.html> Specifically, I have some users on a couple of lists that are gmail users with multiple accounts linked to that gmail address. They use it to send mail while at work, but still have it appear to come from their home address. All good except when they a) screw up with the wrong address, or b) when that old address is no longer active. (And there is a history of people forging mail on the lists, not the case now, but you know people are sensitive about the issue...) I have modified the mm_cfg.py file from: SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', None, 'reply-to', 'sender') to: SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', 'reply-to', 'sender') and it works. Thinking about it a bit more, it would be better if there was a check to make sure the email address in the envelope ID matched actually matched the address in the "From:". Is there a way of setting that in the mm_cfg.py file? Ideally, my preference would be to work with the individual users on this, in part because it only happened on a couple of lists. Could a Regexp catch this in the spam filters settings. Thanks! al

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migrating to a VPS and large mail archives
by Jason Fayre 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

Hello, I am administering a server that runs around 150 lists. The mail archives are around 26gb in size. Due to the server being hacked and various other reasons, we want to move the mailing lists over to a virtual server. Most VPS plans only give you around 20 to 30gb of disk space. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this sort of issue. What have other people done for things like mail archives? I was thinking of doing something with amazon s3. Looking for any thoughts people may have.

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Bug in mailman2.1.0
by Sneha Bhattacharya 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

I had been using mailman properly since the last few days but suddenly i am getting this error while going to my admin page : Bug in Mailman version 2.1.10 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. there are no errors in the error log. can anyone please help? Regards Sneha

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removing mailman@list
by Fabio Dalan 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Dear all, I am using Mailman in a website to manage some list. The system automatically generates thise pages http://lists.ermes-group.eu/mailman/admin http://lists.ermes-group.eu/mailman/listinfo sending users to the email address mailman@ermes.... that does not exist. Do you know how I can costumazie those pages? Many thanks in advance. Fabio Dalan

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mailman 2.1.14 stops sending mail
by Millsap, James 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Hello, I have mailman 2.1.14 running on RHEL 5.9 with sendmail 8.13.8-8.1.el5_7, and Python 2.4.3. The problem presents itself by mailman no longer sending out mail sent to the lists. The mail is queuing up, and when mailman is stopped and started it all delivers. That leads to the other strange part. All of the mailman daemons stop when I run the stop script, except mailman 15854 1 0 10:01 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start mailman 15861 15854 0 10:01 ? 00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s I have to kill the outgoingrunner specifically. The only thing I see in the logs is a lack of logging. It has been running with stunning reliability on this machine for the last few years, so I am not sure what is going on. Perhaps one of redhat's patches killed it. James Millsap The University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 (773) 702-7955

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