Mailman 3 July 2003 - Mailman-Users

Re: So far, I'm very disappointed with Mailman
by Paul H Byerly July 5, 2003

July 5, 2003

Bill griped: >I've had nothing but problems with it. Majordomo sucked, but at least it >stayed up and running. ....Anyone have a better mailing list tool than >Mailman that you can >recommend? I'd like to have something that I don't have to babysit so >much. There is either something wrong/missing on your server or with your install. Any of those problems could probably be identified by the good folks here if you gave some information. <>< Paul

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Preventing address from being unsubscribed
by Ed Leafe July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

I have a list that is pretty high-traffic. I have a separate list that is a sub-set of the big list. To do this, I have an email address that subscribes to the big list, and this address is aliased to a series of python scripts that determine if the message should be passed on to the small list. So far, everything is working great. The problem is that some bounces from the small list are being seen as a bounce from this proxy email address, and Mailman disabled the proxy address, cutting off the whole sub-list processing. Is there any way to tell Mailman to *never* remove certain addresses? I.e., to exclude them from bounce processing actions? ___/ / __/ / ____/ Ed Leafe http://leafe.com/ http://opentech.leafe.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] So far, I'm very disappointed with Mailman
by J C Lawrence July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:51:44 -0700 (PDT) SysAdmin <help(a)quality.org> wrote: > I've had nothing but problems with it. Majordomo sucked, but at least > it stayed up and running. This is hardly a way to get either sympathy or help. > Mailman's processes are all there, but no messages get delivered... Then post the data that's needed to resolve the problem. You know the mantra and the ritual: what do the logs say? > As much as I hate to do it, I might just have to go back to Majordomo > (it has much better documentation, too). Sigh. I ship between 1 and 2 million messages a day through Mailman without any problems or SysAdm intervention. In the real of Mailman sites I'm fairly tiny. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing address from being unsubscribed
by Ed Leafe July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 12:38 PM, Richard Barrett wrote: >> It is the sent to stdout via print commands, which are received by >> the subordinate list like any other message would be. When the list >> sends the message out, it supplies its own Return-Path:, etc., >> headers, as any list would do. > > But what is going to happen if your script decides _not_ to forward > the message to the mailman wrapper. Would you not be better using > os.popen() if you decide to deliver the message to the subordinate > list. As things stand is not the normal post script is being asked to > read a message from an empty pipe? It may cope with that but why make > it do so and what are the consequences. A little sleight-of-hand: if the message is not to be sent to the list, I add a particular header to the message. The subordinate list is then configured to automatically discard any message containing that header. So all messages get forwarded to the list, but only the "good" ones ever get sent out to subscribers. ___/ / __/ / ____/ Ed Leafe http://leafe.com/ http://opentech.leafe.com

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Export Memberlist
by jsmith July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

I actually set this up in cron for a weekly back of all my lists. 0 0 * * 0 /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members listname | mail email(a)here.com This will run every Sunday night. Hope this helps. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Jeroen Valcke [mailto:jeroen.valcke@belnet.be] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:49 AM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Export Memberlist On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 11:40:47AM -0400, BenSalem Naturals wrote: > How can I export my memberlist in Mailman? On the commandline, type <mailmaninstalldir>/bin/list_members [list_name] > save_members -Jeroen- -- Jeroen Valcke sst(a)belnet.be jeroen.valcke(a)belnet.be ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: jsmith(a)smittybuilt.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jsmith%40smittybuil t.com

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Fw: <MM-Unsub-Pw-Box> etc missing?!
by jiands July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

my MM is 2.1.21src. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jiands" <jiangds(a)cisp.org.cn> To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 4:20 PM Subject: <MM-Unsub-Pw-Box> etc missing?! > Hi,list > > I cannot find the <MM-Unsub-Pw-Box> > <MM-Other-Subscriptions-Pw-Box> > <MM-Old-Pw-Box> in the options.py > > where are they? > Thank you. > > > > jiangds > >

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Mail Not Recieved...
by Shalabh Agarwal July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

Hi All, I have just installed mailman on qmail. Qmail is working fine. But when I try to send a mail to mailing list, it sent successfully but not recieved. I don't know where the mails are lost. In short, I think my aliases files are not working properly. My alias file looks like... {|preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test} Pls help me. I am stuck here, don't know what to do. Thanx & Regards --Shalabh

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List performance queries
by Brad Knowles July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

At 11:20 PM -0400 2003/07/02, J C Lawrence wrote: > Configurable. I'd set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to be fairly high, tho not more > than 100 (see Chuq von Rospach's notes on the performance impacts and > implications of this setting for more typical MX distributions). Back in 2000, there was a fairly long thread in mailman-developers about large lists. Start with <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2000-May/006795.html> and work your way through. There's also an interesting message from Chuq to mailman-developers that is more directly related to this issue at <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2001-June/008928.html>. In short, he says that you probably want to set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to be at least 2, and beyond 5 it doesn't seem to buy a whole lot. -- ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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how are large distribution lists handled
by Bruce Embrey July 4, 2003

July 4, 2003

Mailman-Users: I am using Mailman 2.1.1 I have several lists and my setting for SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500. If I have a list with 4000 addresses will this setting segment the message into 8 messages with 500 recipients per message? This SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 was the default setting when I installed it. Is it the recommended setting or should it be changed? Bruce Embrey Bruce Edward Embrey : VMS Systems Manager Campus Email Admin : UNIX / Linux Administrator Hood College : embrey(a)hood.edu : Phone (301)696-3927

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QUestion about the Prefix for Subject Line.
by Arturo Puente July 3, 2003

July 3, 2003

Good night everyone, I have a question. It is posible to have a sequential number in the prefix for subject line, to carry the count of messages sent by the list, so that the members know if they are receiving all the messages or miss some? Best regards, Arturo Puente

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