Mailman 3 November 2004 - Mailman-Users

add_member and passwords
by Jan Eri 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Is there a way to control which password a user get when adding users to a list with add_member? We would like to give them the same password they use to access other parts of our system. regards, Jan -- DIS-Norge http://www.disnorge.no/

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How to include the email address of the recipient in the mailing
by Steve Wehr 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

One problem we always have with mailing lists is that people forget which email address they used to subscribe. Often our subscribers have email aliases that they use. For example: a user subscribes to our mailing list as info(a)their_domain.com. This address is setup to forward mail to their "real" email address: user(a)aol.com. So now they get a mailing from Mailman at user(a)aol.com. They reply that they want to unsubscribe, and cannot, since user(a)aol.com is not a member of the list. To help combat this I would like to add their %(email)s variable to the msg_footer. I'd like to say something like: "You are subscribed to this list as %(email)s". But that variable is not allowed there. Can you suggest another solution?? Thanks! Steve Wehr Tunedin Web Design - TunedinWeb.com <http://www.hvpages.com/> <mailto:stevew@tunedinweb.com> stevew(a)tunedinweb.com

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Mhonarc vs. Pipermail
by Jacques B. Siboni 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Dear All I have seen mails about this topic but I can't decide so far I used Mhonarc with majordomo and now I run mailman with pipermail -- should I use pipermail or mhonarc? -- if it appears pipermail is better is there a piece of software to convert ancient archives to pipermail or do i have to make it myself? -- if it appears mhonarc is better how do i insert mhonarc as archive manager inside mailman? Thanks in advance for your help Jacques -- Dr. Jacques B. Siboni mailto:jacsib@Lutecium.org 8 pass. Charles Albert, F75018 Paris, France Tel. & Fax: 33 (0) 1 42 28 76 78 Home Page: http://www.lutecium.org/jacsib/

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RFE: Web interface to sync_members
by Matthew Saltzman 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

It would be useful to extend the Membership Management page to support sync_members. We use mailman to run a number of members-only lists for a professional society. The membership database is kept on a separate system, and lists of current members are produced for the various lists at regular intervals. It would be easier for our non-technical office staff to keep the mailing list memberships in sync with the main database if they could upload the member list through the Web rather than having to upload the file with FTP and use sudo and shell commands to do the synching. We could mass-delete and mass-subscribe, but it would be more convenient to do it in one step. Also, for some of the lists, new members should receive notification that they have been subscribed, but carry-over members should not get such notification. The only way to do that with add_members is to add in two steps or to make two files with members to be deleted and members to be added, leaving the carry-over members subscribed. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

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custom subscribe, unsubscribe and confirm pages per list
by Seather 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hi there, I run several different domains' mailing lists on one mailing list setup, most of it being basic newsletters with no user-input, they just receive emails. Now I need custom subscribe, unsubscribe and confirm pages which should be shown inside the website's pages using php. I am unsure as to where and how exactly to customize all of this differently for each single site? All that I need is a subscribe with a username and password, and an unsubscribe form with a username entry, and then the confirm pages for both of them. Passwords and options and such is completely unnescesarry as this is a newsletter only "mailing list". I have tried using the /usr/local/mailman/bin/ tools such as add_members and remove_members, but unfortunately these don't offer the confirmation part which can lead to a catastrophe. There is of course the chance of me writing that bit myself in php, and then writing a c-wrapper so that apache/php can execute those commands, but there simply must be an easier way? Many Thanks

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AW: [Mailman-Users] Allow list members to send mails to another list
by Gary Smith 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hi. Would it be possible to set up an email forwarder,? For example," forwardmen(a)domain.com " is a member of hockey men and any emails that are sent to it are forwarded to hockeywoman. Hope this makes sense, might take some logistical thinking to make work. Gary Smith Gary Smith E-mail: gary8smith(a)yahoo.co.uk Website: www.greatcrap.com --------------------------------- Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality.

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AW: [Mailman-Users] Unable to get Mailman up and running with qmail/vpopmail
by DIGITAL FOR YOU - Alexander Schwethelm 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hi Jordi, hi List, Thanks for your input and I am really happy about every input, but this also shows, why so mayn people have problems with mailman and struggling to get it up and running. If you have followed the answers Bryan Petty (Tierra) has given, he told me to use-mail-gid= mailman and NOT vchkpw also I should not create a virtual domain, now you tell me I should. What should I believe now being a novice??? I'll sure give you way a try, even so I don't like the idea of having to run a script each time I add a list. This means an admin has to be involved each time a list is created. It's also another potential place for errors. Bryan, what do you say about this? I believe qmail/vpopmail is a pretty wide spreaded configuration by now and I don't understand why the creators of mailman can't just say, that's the way to go, fullstop! Best regards, Alex -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jordi Local [mailto:jgil@mail.jordi.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 26. November 2004 12:55 An: info(a)digital4u.de Betreff: AW: [Mailman-Users] Unable to get Mailman up and running with qmail/vpopmail you should create your alias at the directory /home/vpopmail/domains/your.domain.com/ executing the script #./create_alias "list_name" the content of the create_alias script is: #!/bin/sh if [ $# = 1 ]; then i=$1 echo Making links to $i... echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post $i" > .qmail-$i echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin $i" > .qmail-$i-admin echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i" > .qmail-$i-bounces #VERP format echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i" > .qmail-$i-bounces-default echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm $i" > .qmail-$i-confirm echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join $i" > .qmail-$i-join echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave $i" > .qmail-$i-leave echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner $i" > .qmail-$i-owner echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request $i" > .qmail-$i-request echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe $i" > .qmail-$i-subscribe echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubsrcibe $i" > .qmail-$i-unsubscribe fi and you also should configure the mailman setup with this options: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-mail-gid=vchkpw with-cgi-gid=apache with-python=/usr/bin/python *I think that with this it would be enough, and hope this would be enough. One question I have a problem with the 2.1.5 version because it doesn't advise the list owner of bounces and e-mail adreses mailman deletes automatically, If you get any solution I would be very pleased if you send it to me.

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Using Mailman for Newsletters
by Sylvain 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hi! I'm new on this list, and sorry if my english sound funny but I'm french and my english is far to be perfect ;) I plan to use Mailman to set up a Newsletter system. I'll have to define 2 or 3 differents Newsletters. I'm able to use Mailman as his first function, a powerfull mailing list system :) I've check the FAQ (http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.11) but I have some questions. I'm running Mailman version 2.1.4 (taken from backports.org) on a Debian Woody. 1/ I've created a list with the command "newlist mynewsletter" 2/ I've copy and paste the aliases block in my /etc/aliases and ran newaliases 3/ Once my list is created, what email address will I have to use to register on the Newsletter ? With what subject ? When I'll got it running, I'll create a form on my website to subscribe/unsubscribe on the newsletter. Actually, when I send an email on mynewsletter(a)list.mydomain.com with the subject "subscribe", I see the mail arriving on my server through Postfix logs but I don't receive any confirmation mail back and no new entry in the Membership List. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Sylvain

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Mailman's Mailbox
by Gary Smith 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hi. I don't know much about the techinical stuff behind mailman (I dont have console access, only through the Cpanel software) and I was wondering, how does Mailman know that it has an email, i.e. when someone tries to post to the list. By that I mean I know I have an email because I download my inbox on to my computer, but does Mailman constantly do this, if it does would'nt it cause a strain on the server? Hope my question makes sense, thanks in advance for answering. Gary Smith Gary Smith E-mail: gary8smith(a)yahoo.co.uk Website: www.greatcrap.com --------------------------------- Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality.

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Errors in Mailman
by Terry Allen 26 Nov '04

26 Nov '04

Hi again, I have Mailman best part running, but there are a few odd errors & I have a few short questions relating to those if someone wouldn't mind replying to them. 1 - If I make a change to mm_cfg.py, to refresh the config, is it sufficient to from the command line simply run bin/mailmanctl reload 2 - In my Postfix logs, this appeared - fatal: open /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db: Permission denied - could someone let me know what permissions should be applied to this. 3 - If I create a list from the command line, I am successful in creating the list - however, if I try to create a list from the web interface, I get this error: Error: Unknown virtual host: heard.com.au - now, in mm_cfg.py, I have the following lines: DEFAULT_URL = 'http://heard.com.au/mailman/' OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes add_virtualhost = ( 'heard.com.au' , 'heard.com.au' ) Could anyone suggest where I have gone wrong please - my web interface was working at first, but obviously something I have changed has stuffed up. Many thanks. -- Bye for now, Terry Allen ___________________________________________________________________ hEARd Postal Address: hEARd, 26B Glenning Rd, Glenning Valley, NSW 2261, Australia Internet - WWW: http://heard.com.au http://itavservices.com EMAIL: hmag(a)ozemail.com.au Phone: Australia - 02 4388 1400 / International - + 61 2 43881400 Mobile: Australia - 04 28881400 / International - 61 4 28881400 ----------------------------------------------- Non profit promotion for new music - since 1994 -----------------------------------------------

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