Mailman 3 June 2007 - Mailman-Users

backup lists
by Alexandros Fragkiadakis 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

hi all, sorry if this question has been asked before. How can i backup my lists and their configuration options? Regards, Alexandros -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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spamd error message
by Jon Slater 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Hmmm… Everything *seems* to be working… But when I check my log files, I see: Jun 20 18:50:21 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 18:50:22 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 18:50:22 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 18:50:22 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 18:50:33 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 18:54:01 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 19:18:42 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 19:53:37 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 21:03:58 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 21:03:58 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 21:03:59 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost Jun 20 21:16:22 2007 (2903) spamd: could not connect to spamd on localhost What’s wrong? Thanks! Jon No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: 6/20/2007 2:18 PM

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Troublesome Mailman Errors
by George Booth 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Greetings, I've been unable to find answers for two problems that have been plaguing me for about a week or so now, and decided to turn to the list for help. We're running Mailman on an IBM server with RedHat 2.6.9-42.0.10.EL-i686 The first problem is that messages sent to one of my lists (750+ members) don't get propagated out to all the members. At this point, I'm not sure what percentage is receiving and what percentage isn't receiving, but based on small samplings, I think it's safe to conclude that more aren't receiving than are. Checking the post log, I see the following for test messages I've sent to the list; I know of 5 people who have received it, of which I am not one: Jun 19 10:47:31 2007 (32175) post to usmtalk from g.booth(a)usm.edu, size=2800, message-id=<005101c7b289$16a60070$f3cb5f83@elysium>, 7 failures Jun 19 15:20:28 2007 (32175) post to usmtalk from g.booth(a)usm.edu, size=2646, message-id=<001301c7b2ad$9f179e40$f3cb5f83@elysium>, 7 failures One person has been trying to send a message to the list for the last week; he's tried 3 times and, although he's received all of my test messages to the list, he has not seen his own messages come through. I myself have not received any email from the list in around a week, and quite a few others have received no messages at all either. I'm unable to get cooperation from our server admins to get messages traced as they go through our rather complex email system, and am told this is a Mailman problem, so I figured I'd see what the experts think might be possible situations. The other issue we're facing, which I'm also told by the server admins is an internal Mailman problem, is that often the Mailman processes, while outwardly appearing to run, just "stop" working; mail gets queued up, and I have to restart the Mailman service to get the queue moving again. In the Mailman error log, I'm seeing the following tracebacks on an almost minute-by-minute basis: Jun 19 20:22:04 2007 (11284) Uncaught runner exception: Jun 19 20:22:04 2007 (11284) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 273, in send_i18n_digests msg = mbox.next() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/mailbox.py", line 35, in next return self.factory(_Subfile(self.fp, start, stop)) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 41, in _safeparser return email.message_from_file(fp, Message) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 63, in message_from_file return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parse(fp) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 218, in _parsebody payload[start:terminator]) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/sre.py", line 156, in split return _compile(pattern, 0).split(string, maxsplit) MemoryError Jun 19 20:22:04 2007 (11284) SHUNTING: 1182289757.230494+ae5c970b2a7ffee54cafa14a22bf0a5b052b671e Jun 19 20:23:11 2007 (11284) Uncaught runner exception: Jun 19 20:23:11 2007 (11284) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 273, in send_i18n_digests msg = mbox.next() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/mailbox.py", line 35, in next return self.factory(_Subfile(self.fp, start, stop)) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 41, in _safeparser return email.message_from_file(fp, Message) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 63, in message_from_file return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parse(fp) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 218, in _parsebody payload[start:terminator]) MemoryError Jun 19 20:23:11 2007 (11284) SHUNTING: 1182292904.783638+0a96719432d01f6522da13a1fb9ef301d37d0344 June 15 is when the first of these showed up, which leads me to believe it's a seperate issue from the non-delivery of email to all recipients of a list (which, of course, I could be completely wrong about), since the last time I received a message from this list was June 11. Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have asked the server admins if there could be a physical memory problem, which would cause the Memory Error listed above, and received a negative. I also have asked if the memory allocation for Python was sufficient, and was told it has access to all 16GB of memory that the server holds. I've also come across a suggestion to add the line " self.__conn.set_debuglevel(1)" to the SMTPDirect.py file and restarted Mailman, but that hasn't seemed to help either. Thanks in advance for any help, George Booth <>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<> George Booth iTech Applications Administrator G.Booth(a)usm.edu University of Southern Mississippi

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Re: [Mailman-Users] lurker behaving strangely
by Jenny Hopkins 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

On 20/06/07, Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> wrote: > On 6/20/07, Jenny Hopkins wrote: > > > Why would the lurker database think mails are deleted? > > This is a problem with lurker and not Mailman. I've never even heard > of lurker before, and I've been involved in running mailing lists for > over a decade, and I've been involved in the Mailman project for > several years. > > I suspect you'll get a lot more help with your problem if you consult > the documentation for lurker, their FAQ, their mailing lists, etc.... > I'm sorry - I presumed lurker was a sort of add-on to mailman, and thought I saw references to it as I went through the mailman archives. (Googling for 'lurker' and anything to do with mailing lists or irc tends to bring up the wrong references :-)) > > That said, knowing nothing at all about the particular external > archiver you're using, it sounds to me like you might have a cron job > left lying around from before your upgrade and which is pulling up > the old wrapper script with the old configuration details, and isn't > working as desired. > > At the very least, it wouldn't hurt to check your cron jobs to make > sure they're all in order. > Thanks, Brad, I'll check this out. Sorry for mis-post. Jenny

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lurker behaving strangely
by Jenny Hopkins 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hullo there, I've recently taken over the admin of a server running mailman and lurker, for several mailing lists. It was noticed that the archives were out of date and new messages weren't archiving. I traced the problem in the end to the mailman mm_cfg.py script having PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = 'usr/bin/lurker-index-mm -l %(listname)s -m' rather than the newer wrapper /usr/bin/lurker-index-lc, the wrapper script probably having been updated in an upgrade from debian sarge to etch. I did a mass import sudo /usr/bin/lurker-index -v -c /etc/lurker/lurker.conf -l <mylist> -i /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/<mylist>.mbox/<mylist>.mbox The mails now all appeared up to date in the webpage showing the archives, and new posts appeared as they should. Hoorah! A few days later, I got a mail from someone telling me the archives had vanished again. On looking, the lurker page showed old mails once again. The external archiver error log has non-zero exit status: 127 again. Re-running the mass import for one of the lists adds only two test mails I sent since fixing the individual archiver. What is going on?! I'm completely bewildered. Any help appreciated, I realise this post is probably a bit garbled. Thanks, Jenny

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem creating new list on the web - Unkown Virtual Host
by Christopher Adams 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Brad, Sorry for putting you through that. 'mailinglists.state.or.us' is not the actual domain name. I used it as an example. The actual name is 'listsmart.osl.state.or.us' and does exist in DNS. I have a server with 2 NICs. One of the NICs has the 'listsmart.osl.state.or.us' IP attached to it along with another IP. I don't know if that makes any difference. On 6/19/07, Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> wrote: > On 6/19/07, Christopher Adams wrote: > > > When I create a list via the web, I get the dreaded 'Unknown Virtual > > Host mailinglists.state.or.us' message. > > That name does not exist in the DNS: > > % dig mailinglists.state.or.us. any > > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> mailinglists.state.or.us. any > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 49283 > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;mailinglists.state.or.us. IN ANY > > ;; Query time: 3 msec > ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) > ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 19 18:30:48 2007 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 42 > > > % dig @lynx.state.or.us. mailinglists.state.or.us. any > > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @lynx.state.or.us. mailinglists.state.or.us. any > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 12659 > ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;mailinglists.state.or.us. IN ANY > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > state.or.us. 3600 IN SOA lynx.state.or.us. > dns-admin.state.or.us. 2007061500 10800 1800 604800 3600 > > ;; Query time: 72 msec > ;; SERVER: 159.121.107.82#53(159.121.107.82) > ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 19 18:31:44 2007 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 93 > > > You might want to get that fixed. > > While you're at it, you should have your nameserver administrators > look into fixing the other things wrong with the domain -- see > <http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?%26domain%3Dstate.or.us>. > > -- > Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org>, Consultant & Author > LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> > Slides from Invited Talks: <http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4> > > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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problem creating new list on the web - Unkown Virtual Host
by Christopher Adams 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

When I create a list via the web, I get the dreaded 'Unknown Virtual Host mailinglists.state.or.us' message. I consulted the FAQ, but I couldn't see what was wrong: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.036.htp I didn't configure the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST during the configuration of Mailman, so I added them to mm_cfg.py and restarted mailman. My entry looks like this: #Virtual Host and Email Host add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mailinglists.state.or.us' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailinglists.state.or.us' Other list admin functions from the web work and I can create lists from the command line. Any tips on what to look for? -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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Mailman installation problem/permissions
by Christopher Adams 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

After a hardware failure, I am trying to install Mailman on another server. As per the documentation, I added myself to the Mailman group and ran the configure as me. I used --with-mail-gid=mailman and --with-cgi-gid=www. I then ran make install. It seemed to work okay. I ran ./check_perms -f and all looks okay. I went to the mailman directory and did this: cd /usr/local/mailman chgrp mailman . chmod a+rx,g+ws I added a ScriptAlias entry in the apache conf file: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ I restarted Apache, Postfix, and Mailman. No matter what I do, if I go to the URL: http://mydomain.com/mailman/admin/create I get the message: "You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server." I tried doing the configure with actual gid number and tried using different combinations such as mail-gid=postfix and cgi-gid=nobody. None of that seems to make a difference. I would appreciate any ideas as to what is going on. It appears to be a permissions problem but I would like to narrow it down one way or another. Thanks -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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Newbe question - Can I do this with Mailman?
by AusArchitect 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

Hi, Can I run Mailman on my linux webserver and have it do the following? Each of my clients is a company with say 1000 clients of their own, The 30 companies want to give me a email list with their 1000 clients. I then need to send out 30,000 emails with each being taylored to those companies graphics style (with their logo's, fonts etc from a template). The killer is that across the 30 companies there are probably duplicate email addresses, so i need to de-duplicate but also make sure that these duplicates are sent mail (over a period of time) by all the companies they are with. EG, company 1 would send dupe #1 on 1st email, Company 2 would send dupe #1 on second email ( a week later ). The email content will be the 5 url links which each company wants to send out to their clients (links to pages on my website). So each of the 30 companies will have 5 url's which will be in a email which looks like it comes from them. 1 email = 5x url's to 5 pages on my site. for example. Any help would be most apprecated. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbe-question---Can-I-do-this-with-Mailman--tf394427… Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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moved lists and now they don't work
by carconni 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

Hi I had to move lists. We had a hardware failure and they had to move to our new mail server. The mail server migration went fine and we thought mailman moved okay as well but we were wrong. Earlier today I tried to create a new list and and got an error so my boss said to check permissions. I ran the /usr/share/mailman/bin/ check_perms -f in every mailman file I could find but Im still getting permission errors. I even gave global permissions to all the archives but no luck. Right now, lists have stopped - they just aren't working and I just can't figure out what the problem is. The more we tried to fix it, the worse it got. Unfortunately my company heavily relies on them so I figured before I set out to manually configure mail aliases, does anyone know a way around this mess? from var/mailman/logs/error: (the permissions and ownership for the client-list is -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 479 Jun 18 13:30 / private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/index.html) Jun 18 19:24:34 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219873.5167899 +ceff885a98ff1c83a23f7e83b4d94678813ee808 Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- list' Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 133, in _dispose mlist.Save() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir breaklink(pubdir) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 55, in breaklink os.unlink(link) OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/ archives/public/client-list' Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10819) SHUNTING: 1182219935.3121431 +07ef8a32317dde697d0042ee151b8fd11d41b398 Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/ index.html' Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in ArchiveMail h.close() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 313, in close self.write_TOC() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1048, in write_TOC toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ private/client-list/index.html' Jun 18 19:25:36 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219935.3121431 +1f5997710b510ce2af03c4b18e68bca2a9a7cf5d Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- list' Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 133, in _dispose mlist.Save() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir breaklink(pubdir) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 55, in breaklink os.unlink(link) OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/ archives/public/client-list' Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10819) SHUNTING: 1182219952.298547 +a97ef5907aa7d67744b62971add1b089b4336b32 Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10816) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/ index.html' Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10816) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in ArchiveMail h.close() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 313, in close self.write_TOC() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1048, in write_TOC toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ private/client-list/index.html' Jun 18 19:25:53 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182219952.298547 +542a885011bac44ed8f869a06f7c64ebe07acaf9 Jun 18 19:27:07 2007 (10819) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/archives/public/client- list' Jun 18 19:27:07 2007 (10819) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 133, in _dispose mlist.Save() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 529, in Save self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 235, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir breaklink(pubdir) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 55, in breaklink os.unlink(link) OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/private/var/mailman/ archives/public/client-list' Jun 18 19:27:07 2007 (10819) SHUNTING: 1182220026.5520279 +b4a5f31a903a595b30aad7c8b13e6b37e44b3b25 Jun 18 19:27:07 2007 (10816) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/client-list/ index.html' Jun 18 19:27:07 2007 (10816) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in ArchiveMail h.close() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 313, in close self.write_TOC() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1048, in write_TOC toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ private/client-list/index.html' Jun 18 19:27:07 2007 (10816) SHUNTING: 1182220026.5520279 +eddee6c8cd6b87769edeaa60fe9c23f1e3e19640

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