Mailman 3 June 2008 - Mailman-Users

Spaces inserted in subjects
by Allan Odgaard June 18, 2008

June 18, 2008

On a new list I had this set in `mm_cfg.py` at creation time: OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No This caused extra spaces between the tag inserted and the subject for letters sent to the list. I suspected that this option was the problem, but I was unable to disable it again (seems to be another one of those options only settable at list creation time), so I had to traverse the source and eventually found the problem in `CookHeaders.py` where it does: u' '.join([prefix, recolon, subject]) But for new letters `recolon` will be the empty string. Using Mailman 2.1.9 (Ubuntu installation).

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List suddenly went anonymous
by david.weber＠l-3com.com June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

All, We saw some weird behavior on one of our lists about a month ago. It's an internal list, and is meant to not be anonymous. All of a sudden, the messages are coming from our -bounces address, and the users are being obscured. If you look at the archive, the names are being stored correctly, just not when the messages are being sent out. According to the web page, we're running version 2.1.10. We (the mailing list admins) are not sure what happened to the box. It may have been upgraded, but we really do not have any clue. TIA --dw

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New FAQ
by Barry Warsaw June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, I wanted to let you know that Terri Oda has written a nice script to turn the old FAQ wizard into FAQ entries on the wiki. She and others have spent some time gardening, tweaking and updating the wiki FAQ and it is now ready to take over as our definitive FAQ. Thanks Terri and everyone else who contributed to this effort! We'll keep the old FAQ wizard around so that existing links will continue to work. I've added a footer indicating that it is obsolete and pointing people at the wiki FAQ. I've also disabled write access to the FAQ wizard. Here's the new FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions There's also a link to this on the front page of the wiki: http://wiki.list.org Enjoy, - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhX9QwACgkQ2YZpQepbvXGDXQCgiBI4IXaBFgt9Wc+ZpjQc1zVN LzkAnRnOiqHrnk5KdoD6brqhmxFHag8e =2fZN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mailman Migration Trouble
by Carlos Williams June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

I am migrating mailman from server_old (RHEL 4) to server_new (RHEL 5). Its basically in all sense the same machine / arch / domain / blah blah blah. I am using this archive as a guide: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-January/055208.html I copies everything over from my old server to the new as below: /usr/bin/rsync -ave ssh --delete-after /var/lib/mailman/lists/ root@server_new:/var/lib/mailman/lists /usr/bin/rsync -ave ssh --delete-after /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ root@server_new:/var/lib/mailman/archives/private I skipped step 3 in the guide since the domain is identical and has no reason to change... I then copied all /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/*mbox/*mbox to the new server as shown below: /usr/bin/rsync -ave ssh --delete-after /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ root@server_new:/var/lib/mailman/archives/private Now I am trying to understand step # 5 and I don't understand since my system has no user or group called list so I can chown -R list:list. Am I missing something? Right now since I can't execute step 5, when I attempt to start mailman on my Linux server, I get the following error: [root@email cwilliams]# /etc/init.d/mailman start Starting mailman: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 607, in ? main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 426, in main check_for_site_list() File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 326, in check_for_site_list sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 665, in Load self.CheckVersion(dict) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 707, in CheckVersion self.InitVars() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 404, in InitVars baseclass.InitVars(self) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 96, in InitVars os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman.mbox' [FAILED] Anyone know what I am missing or doing wrong?

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Problems with the who command (migrating lists FAQ)
by Allan Odgaard June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

I followed the FAQ¹ and sent a `who «password»` to my old list (where I am administrator). This scheme had the following problems: 1. All user settings are lost (digest, no email, etc.). 2. It does not return subscribers with concealed identity (hide). 3. User names with accents came through mangled. I expected #1 but not #2 (as I can see these users in the web UI with my admin passwords). To solve #3 I had to set my old list to Serbian. This changed encoding from us-ascii to utf-8 and caused the user names to be emailed without the mangling. I suggest updating the FAQ and/or improve the `who` command to return concealed users to the list administrator. Would also be nice if the mass subscribe could optionally take per user settings and `who` would return these. ¹ http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.4 Using Mailman 2.1.9 (Ubuntu installation).

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Multiple line salutations
by Steve Campbell June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

I've had a request from a moderator for a list we run. They would like to know if there is the ability to have multiple line Salutations (the box under the email address when viewing the subscriber list) for personalizations. An example might be John Adams Vice President Is there a new line character that can be used line "\n" or something? Thanks Steve Campbell

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how to configure mailman....(mailman server different with mail server)
by Dony Tata June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

how to configure mailman....(mailman server different with mail server), i have problem Jun 17 16:28:04 2008 (1388) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: <mailman.2.1213693644.1256.sore(a)irfan.ac.id> Jun 17 16:28:04 2008 (1388) delivery to fedora(a)irfan.ac.id failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused') Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bls: mailman patch + postfix true virtual hosting
by Mark Sapiro June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

Dony Tata wrote: > >----- Pesan Asli ---- >Dari: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> >Kepada: Dony Tata <dony1985.0729(a)yahoo.co.id>; mailman-users(a)python.org >Terkirim: Senin, 16 Juni, 2008 03:16:01 >Topik: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman patch + postfix true virtual hosting > >Dony Tata wrote: > >>i use postfix + mailman 2.5 patch true virtual hosting, somebody can help me, if i try send mail to maillist, i get error (unknown user) >> >>in mm_cfg.py i'm configure like this: >>MTA = 'Postfix' >>POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['doma.ac.id', 'domb.ac.id'] >> >>in main.cf i'm configure like this: >>virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman >>alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases >>alias_database = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases > > >>Have you run Mailman's bin/genaliases since putting the above settings >>in mm_cfg.py? > >>Normally, Mailman's aliases and virtual maps are in Mailman's >>data/aliases and data/virtual_mailman files. What are >>/etc/mailman/aliases and /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman? Are they >>symlinks to data/aliases and data/virtual_mailman? Where are the >>aliases.db and virtual-mailman.db? > >-- >>Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >>San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > >i`m install postfix + mailman patch true virtual hosting on centos, aliases.db and virtual-mailman.db locate in /etc/mailman.... OK. So you have a Postfix issue. Some people on the Mailman-Users list (including me) can help you with Postfix, but we need to understand the problem. So please post to the list (not just to me), at least the following: what address you are posting to, the entries in /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman and /etc/mailman/aliases for that address and the /var/log/maillog entries from that post. Also verify that the /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman.db and /etc/mailman/aliases.db files have been updated (have the same or more recent timestamps as the /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman and /etc/mailman/aliases files. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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mailman patch + postfix true virtual hosting
by Dony Tata June 15, 2008

June 15, 2008

i use postfix + mailman 2.5 patch true virtual hosting, somebody can help me, if i try send mail to maillist, i get error (unknown user) in mm_cfg.py i'm configure like this: MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['doma.ac.id', 'domb.ac.id'] in main.cf i'm configure like this: virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/

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Attachment downloading
by Bill Bedford June 14, 2008

June 14, 2008

I have a mailing list where any attachments are scrubbed. This for the most part works very well, however some list member have complained that they are not are to save images when they are viewed from the url presented at the bottom of a message. The image will open in a web browser, but attempts to save the image seem to result in either an error message or an empty file. It seem that this occurs only to PC users, Mac users have no difficulty in saving to disk. Can anyone offer an explanation I could pass on to my members, and a work round, if there is one. -- Bill Bedford "Man is an animal suspended in webs of significance he himself has spun" -- Clifford Geertz

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