Mailman 3 August 2011 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digests stop being sent after a few days if the Mailman interface is changed to Japanese
by 菊地時夫 29 Aug '11

29 Aug '11

Hi, (11/08/28 16:18), S. Patrick Eaton wrote: > Mark, Kikuchi-san, > > Thank you both for the very thorough and helpful responses! > > I think the approach would be the one that Kikuchi-san describes, but > it seems like that might involve making changes that our host might > not want to make (particularly if it will affect their other users). I > will check with them and see what they can do for us in that area. > > If it turns out that they are unable to upgrade to the > Japanese-enabled version, would changing the character set for English > to UTF-8 be enough to prevent this problem from occurring? I suspect > that might be a bit easier for our host to agree to. In that case, you should apply the second option which hack the mailman or system supplied email/charset.py. In this case you should watch the mailman or system upgrade because it will revert the hack. > > Thanks again for the suggestions! > > Best regards, > > Patrick Eaton > -- 菊地時夫 tokio.kikuchi(a)gmail.com 2011/3/31 をもって高知大学を退職しました。 (旧メールアドレス) tkikuchi(a)is.kochi-u.ac.jp

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RSS Feeds
by David Andrews 29 Aug '11

29 Aug '11

Is there a way to add RSS feeds to Mailman lists? Dave

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Digests stop being sent after a few days if the Mailman interface is changed to Japanese
by S. Patrick Eaton 27 Aug '11

27 Aug '11

Hello, everyone. I'm a long-time user of Mailman, but a first-time poster here. Please go easy on me while I get my bearings, okay? I am running a Mailman list for a group of translators who work with the Japanese language (translating either into Japanese or from Japanese into another language), and because most of the subscribers are native speakers of either Japanese or English (although there are speakers of other languages as well) most of the messages posted to this list are in either of those languages, and often they mix both languages in the same message. I've been having a number of problems with the distribution of digest messages that I am hoping someone here can help me with. The first is that, unless the Mailman administrative interface is changed to Japanese, any Japanese characters included in digest messages get changed into question mark characters when the digest is sent out, even if those characters appeared correctly in the message that was sent out to non-digest subscribers. If the interface is changed to Japanese, this does not occur; Japanese characters then appear in the digests the way they should. This, however, inevitably runs into another problem: When the interface is changed to Japanese, the distribution of digests continues for a while, but inevitably it stops at some point and does not resume until the interface is changed back to English, at which point all of the messages that had not been distributed in digests since the last digest was sent get included in the next digest message, which can be quite massive if the digests have not been getting sent out regularly for a while. I've looked through some of the digest-related bugs recorded at Launchpad, and these give me the impression that this sort of problem (if not this exact issue) is not entirely unknown to the developers, and there may even be a solution of some sort already, but I have not yet found it. If my understanding of the problem is correct, it seems like some non-standard characters that are included in some inbound messages cause problems for the process handling the digests, which for some reason does not recover if it encounters such problems, unless it is somehow manually reset (such as when the interface language changes, as described above). I know that most of the messages sent to the list are encoded as either UTF-8 or ISO-2022-JP, but I don't really know which characters might be causing the digests to get clogged up. I have encountered this very same problem in two Mailman installations, one running Mailman 2.1.9 and another running Mailman 2.1.12, on two entirely separate hosted environments, so I am reasonably sure that the problem is specific to Mailman and not to installation or environment-related issues. If anyone has any advice or suggestions (in either English or Japanese!) that might help me solve this problem, I would be very glad to hear them. Although this is the first time I have posted to this list about this, it is a problem that has been occurring for quite some time, so it would be a great relief to be able to get it resolved. With many thanks in advance for your time and consideration, Patrick Eaton

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mailman on windows?
by dhruv kumar 27 Aug '11

27 Aug '11

hi. I need to install mailman in my windows machine. can I do that?

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mailman, yahoo! and DKIM signatures
by Ralf Hildebrandt 26 Aug '11

26 Aug '11

Situation: ========== A user from charite.de is using the R-project mailinglist (mailman) to ask a valid question about the R-Project All our mails are DKIM signed. Now a list member of the R-project mailinglist at Yahoo! uses the "This is Spam" button to report the mail as unwanted, and subsequently I (as postmaster for Charite) receive a spam complaint. Problem: ======== Yahoo! seems to "trust" the DKIM header and thus indentifies charite.de as sender, but in fact it's the R-project mailinglist which distributed the mail. I would very much prefer *THEM* to receive the "spam"-complaints, since there's nothing *I* can do (e.g. like unsubscribing the miscreants from the R-project mailinglist). So, shouldn't mailman strip existing DKIM headers before distributing the mail? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de | http://www.charite.de

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Subscription without confirmation or approval.
by Jack Barnes 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

We want to have users subscribe to a list but we don't want to require approval or confirmation. Under privacy options there isn't an option for this. These lists are outgoing only for the most part, and these are lists for school classes so we don't expect to have strangers subscribing. Is there a way to override the privicy options? If not, is there a way to edit the confirmation and remove the reply option so they are forced to go to the confirmation url? Thanks, Jack W. Barnes, CNE Head Network Administrator CCSU jbarnes(a)ccsuvt.org Office 802-857-7000 Ext. 1039 Cell 802-318-0976 Fax 802-879-8197 CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION. THIS MESSAGE MAY NOT BE FORWARDED. The information contained in this communication, including any attachments, is confidential,constitutes privileged communication, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. This message may not be forwarded without prior consent from the sender. The information in this e-mail is also protected by the rights afforded under Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and school district policies. Any unauthorized use, forwarding, distribution,disclosure, printing or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately at 802-857-7000 x1234 or return e-mail,and delete any copies of this message immediately. Any inadvertent disclosure of this communication shall not compromise the confidential nature of the communication.

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Welcome message sent to wrong email address
by Nicoli Stupinski 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

I'm running Mailman 2.1.11. I know it's old and I do plan on updating in the near future but in the meanwhile... I have send_welcome_msg set to yes. When some subscribes, the welcome message is not sent to JoeUser(a)gmail.combut instead sent to JoeUser-owner(a)gmail.com, which of course never gets delivered. Is there a patch or workaround for this? (I tried searching the archives but but had too many false finds) Thanks, Nic **

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Memory usage climbs for 3rd and 4th outgoing qrunner process
by Ivan Fetch 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

Hello, I am curious what would cause an outgoing queue runner process to increase in memory usage, when Mailman is idle? I am running 4 outgoing qrunner slices, using this in mm_cfg.py: try: QRUNNERS.remove(('OutgoingRunner', 1)) QRUNNERS.append(('OutgoingRunner', 4)) except ValueError: pass I've noticed that the first two processes use 20 MB of memory, the third has climbed to 29MB, and the fourth has climbed to 200Mb - over the past two days. Even when Mailman is idle and not processing messages, the memory usage for the fourth outgoing runner process remains at 200Mb and continues to rise. Last week, after running this way for 3 days, this 4th process was using 800 Mb of memory - at the time, Mailman runners were restarted (although Mailman was idle, and would handle messages quickly). WE may be at that point again tomorrow - I'd like to gather what info I can about this process before it runs away. Here is what these look like right now: # ps -ax -o pmem -o size -o args |sort -n |tail Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.8/FAQ 0.9 184936 /usr/sbin/named -u named 1.2 20712 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s 1.3 23032 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s 1.3 25164 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s 1.4 25400 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:1:4 -s 1.7 31936 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s 2.1 41292 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:2:4 -s 2.2 42612 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s 2.9 55456 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:4 -s 10.1 205020 /usr/bin/python /mail/mailman/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:3:4 - Thanks, Ivan. .

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Mail to different domains
by Guvvala, Yugendra R 24 Aug '11

24 Aug '11

Hi, I have installed mailman 2.1.13, Postfix, on UBUNTU 10.10, i did both the installations through apt-get, i am facing 2 issues right now. 1) i can send mails to the users or add users who belong to the domain of our mailing list but we want o go across domains and also add people belonging to standard emails like Gmail, yahoo and also from other institutions. how can i do that. 2) when ever i add a new list i get an email with list of aliases i need to add on the server and i tried to update /etc/aliases automatically using the procedure specified in the link below but was unsuccessful how to fix it. link : http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html Thanks, Yugendra R. Guvvala Ph.D. Student Dept. Of Computer Science Texas Tech University Lubbock, TX 79409-3104 e-mail: yugendra.r.guvvala(a)ttu.edu Ph: 806-773-4464, 424-222-YUGI(9844) www.myweb.ttu.edu/yguvvala

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Re: [Mailman-Users] setup options
by Chase, Edward 23 Aug '11

23 Aug '11

Under General Options, Set "Hide the sender" option to "No". I think this is the default. Set "Where are the replies directed" option to "This list". That should do it. Pretty straight forward. It probably took you more time to find, subscribe, and send to the mailman-users lists than it would have to figure out these settings. Good luck with your setup. -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+echase=providence.edu(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+echase=providence.edu@python.org] On Behalf Of Carl Cappelen Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:27 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] setup options First time using Mailman (ver. 2.1.14) as administrator. Trying to set up all options, what I am looking for, if possible is: When a subscriber receives a message, would like his reply to go back to the list sever and also to show (e-mail) address of the sender. This way most reply's go back to the list server, however if recipient wants to, he send a message to the directly originator of the message. TIA Carl,

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