Mailman 3 March 2003 - Mailman-i18n

Portuguese
by Jose Paulo Moitinho de Almeida 06 Apr '03

06 Apr '03

Just a quick note to say that I have finished a first version of the pt translation. We want to try it for some time before sending it to the list, but just to be sure, all I need to send is: templates/pt/* messages/pt/* When we are more confident about the translation, do we send it here or directly to Barry/bugzilla/...? Regards Ze Paulo

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patch for spanish .po
by Santiago Garcia Mantinan 06 Apr '03

06 Apr '03

--- mailman.po.orig 2003-01-11 14:01:20.000000000 +0100 +++ mailman.po 2003-02-04 23:21:27.000000000 +0100 @@ -2180,7 +2180,7 @@ " to find the management interface for your list.\n" " <p>Send questions or comments to " msgstr "" -"para acceder al interfaz de gestión de su lista.\n" +" para acceder al interfaz de gestión de su lista.\n" " <p>Envíe sus preguntas o comentarios a " #: Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py:187 without that space I get: Los administradores de listas pueden visitar la página general de administración de listaspara acceder al interfaz de gestión de su lista. ^^^^^^^^^^ on the main page. I wonder how this is still not fixed on cvs being an error on the main page :-??? Regards... -- Manty/BestiaTester -> http://manty.net

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Spanish version again
by Pablo Vieira 06 Apr '03

06 Apr '03

Hi again, I've sent a message to this list regarding the Spanish version. Well I have it downloaded and after revising it I find it contains numerous errors along with a few words left in the original English, but mostly I disagree with the sense of some translations and the use of certain words. I also found very appropriate expressions very well translated in other parts of the interface. As a matter of fact, before I knew there was this translation group I made a first translation of the interface myself and I've found you guys made a better approach than me in certain parts of the translation. Still I'd like to discuss the rest of the translation with you in order to make it both as accurate and user friendly as possible. I'd like to follow a discussion in Spanish about this, since we're talking about the Spanish version of the software and it sounds a bit ridiculous to me to keep talking to Spanish colleagues in English, but if this is some sort of a rule in this list, please let me know. Best regards, Pablo PS: I know this is a reply-to-sender list. Please reply to the list and not to me. Thanks.

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Mailman turkish support
by Cevdet Dengi 06 Apr '03

06 Apr '03

Hello, Has aynyboyy translated mailman messages to Turkish? If not we consider doing this. Best Regards, Cevdet Dengi

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small bug in i18n (checkdbs)
by Bartosz Sawicki 06 Apr '03

06 Apr '03

Hi all, I'm working over polish translation (about 70% done). Today i've found phrase that could not be translated - maybe there are more that this one, but actually i know only one: Action: dailly checkdbs run Message: reason for pending posts eg. "Post by non-member to a members-only list" In code: bin/checkdbs, line 114, there is: when, sender, subject, reason, text, msgdata = mlist.GetRecord(id) date = time.ctime(when) pending.append(_("""\ From: %(sender)s on %(date)s Subject: %(subject)s Cause: %(reason)s""")) As we see none of "when, sender, subject, reason, text, msgdata" are beeing translated. I agree, that translation of sender or subject is unwated, but variables 'date' and 'reason' should be translated. Does any other noticed this bug? Or maybe i'm wrong ? Greatings from Poland BArtek ps. My Mailman is 2.1.1

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When are the checkins ?
by Danny Terweij 30 Mar '03

30 Mar '03

Hi guys, i did send a while ago to Barry (4 weeks) and later also to t wouters (2 weeks) a fresh new copy of the Dutch translations. Still they are not checked in and i am waiting for it.. so i can see if there will be some fuzzy things after the checkin. Could someone help me with CVS upload access? so i can email you my mailman.po/mo and templates? Danny Terweij Dutch Translator Mailman

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Spanish version
by Pablo Vieira 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

Hi everyone, This is my first post, so please excuse my lack of background in the subject. I've lurked around the archives but I haven't seen too much late activity around a Spanish version for Mailman. Is there already a stable Spanish version out there? I offer my help to the Spanish translation team, if such a thing exists. I already translated some amount of Mailman files for my ISP but I've realised they were not the whole interface and that's why I'm here. Nice to meet you all. Pablo

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Re: Translating Mailman on Serbian
by Simone Piunno 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:02:13PM +0100, Nikola Djurovic wrote: > We are thinking to use mailman and to develop it for Serbian Language. > Would you be so kind and post some of your experience and a guidelines > how we can start doing it, what tehnical knowledge-base we need to have, > for us to be positive on being accepted for that work. Hi Nikola, I'll answer here on the list because I think this thread is worth being published on the list archive. You can start without much technical knowledge, but if you want to keep your translation up-to-date (while the development branch evolves into the next stable release) you'd better learn how to use cvs and diff. Here is my recipe. Basically, you'll start by copying templates/en/* to your sandbox dir and then translating each file. Keep in mind that %(foo)s is a variable reference (much like %s in C) and must be left untouched. Also, you must be able to recognize a markup tag (eg, <foo>) because they must be left untouched too, and you should know how to escape non-ASCII characters, e.g. "è" -> "è", but only in html files. Remember that if you need a literal % sign, it must be doubled: %% Next, you copy messages/mailman.pot, renaming it to serbian.po. You can open this file with kbabel (a tool included in KDE SDK) and translate each string (original on the higher half of the window, your translation on the bottom half). If you are a masochist, you can even use emacs PO mode ;) Keep attention to the same markers and escaping as above, with the added complexity that here it's harder to say when a string is html (e.g. used for web UI) or pure text (e.g used for email interface) Then you try to compile you .po file: msgfmt -v -o serbian.mo serbian.po No error messages should appear. Next, copy your files on an installed mailman tree, and run bin/transcheck XX where XX is your coutry code. No warning should appear (but maybe some warning is ok, if you really know what you're doing). Now, try to run your translation (add an "add_language" line to Mailman/Defaults.py) and check the many scattered pieces blend together well. Sometimes you'll need some adjustment. When you're satistied, pack up a tar.gz with the following structure: messages/XX/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po messages/XX/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo templates/XX/admindbdetails.html templates/XX/admindbpreamble.html . . templates/XX/userpass.txt templates/XX/verify.txt (XX is your country code) and send it to Barry Warsaw. By that time, your translation could be somewhat obsolete, because templates and mailman.pot could have been evolved meanwhile. Don't panic. You'll need to check diffs to find what changed and how, so that you can easily update your files. Save everything everytime, you'll need it. Bye -- Simone Piunno -- http://members.ferrara.linux.it/pioppo .------- Adde parvum parvo magnus acervus erit -------. Ferrara Linux Users Group - http://www.ferrara.linux.it Deep Space 6, IPv6 on Linux - http://www.deepspace6.net GNU Mailman, Mailing List Manager - http://www.list.org `-------------------------------------------------------'

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Chinese in mailman 2.1-5
by julian＠opensource.nchc.gov.tw 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Hi there, I just upgrade Mailman in my Debian sid box, it's weird that Chinese language option didn't show up correctly. I cannot even select Chinese(gb or big5) in the language option panel of a list. Is this an unfinished working bug? If yes, maybe someone can show me a way that how I can help. I am using Debian GNU/Linux sid, python-2.2. -- ,''`. Julian Yu-Chung Chen, Opensource Taskforce, NCHC : :' : National Center for `. `' High-performance Computing `- mailto: julian(a)opensource.nchc.gov.tw

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