Jordi Mallach brings up a good point on the rosetta-users mailing list,
in response to my queries there.
Rosetta doesn't really work with non-po files, so the fact that we have
templates that need translating will cause us some grief. Well, even
more grief than it has over the years. ;)
Does anybody have any good ideas for handling this in the Mailman 2
tree? For MM3, it's a top priority that any templating system we use
must support po-ification for i18n. For Mailman 2.2 it's more difficult
because I don't think we should adopt an entirely new template system.
It's even worse for 2.1 because we're not accepting new features,
although if we came up with something simple and minimally disruptive,
I'd consider it for the benefit of improving the translation process.
Ideas are welcome!
-Barry
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Hi Sirs,
Is there an Arabic translation on the work for mailman? If not, then I can
volunteer to maintain it.
Can you point me to the proper procedure or any relavent doc, please?
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Munzir Taha
Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer
Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar
Maintainer of the OpenBugs project page at
http://www.arabic-fedora.org/munzir/OpenBugs.html
Master CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101
New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA
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Hi all,
I've just released Mailman 2.1.7rc1 Release Candidate. I'm sorry for
the violation of file name extension convention because I made a small
mistake when tagging the release number. I will be releasing 2.1.7
final by December 31 if there is no problem.
Please download it from SF or:
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.7rc1.tar.gz
Cheers,
Tokio
-------------------------------------------------------
2.1.7rc1 (24-Dec-2005)
Security
- The fix for CAN-2005-0202 has been enhanced to issue an appropriate
message instead of just quietly dropping ./ and ../ from URLs.
- A note on CVE-2005-3573: Although the RFC2231 bug example in the
CVE has been solved in mailman-2.1.6, there may be more cases
where ToDigest.send_digests() can block regular delivery.
We put the send_digests() calling part in try - except clause and
leave a message in the error log if something happened in
send_digests(). Daily call of cron/senddigests will notify more
detail to the site administrator.
- List administrators can no longer change the user's
option/subscription
globally. Site admin can change these only if
mm_cfg.ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES is set to Yes.
- Script tag is disallowd in edithtml script.
- Since probe message for the disabled users may reach unexpected
persons, the password was excluded from sendProbe() and probe.txt.
Note that the default value of VERP_PROBE has been set to `No'
from 2.1.6., thus this change doesn't change the default behavior.
New Features
- Always remove DomainKey (and similar) headers (1287546) from messages
sent to the list.
- List owners can customize content filter behavior as not to collapse
multipart/alternative to its first content. This allows HTML part
to pass through after other content filtering is done.
Internationalization
- New language: Interlingua.
Bug fixes and other patches
- Defaults.py.in: SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME is set to True
for safer operation.
- Fix Scrubber.py mungs quoted-printable bug with introducing
'X-Mailman-Scrubbed' header for marking that the payload is
scrubber-munged. The flag is referenced in ToDigest.py,
ToArchive.py,
Decorate.py and Archiver. Similar problem in ToDigest.py where the
plain digest is generated is also fixed.
- Fix Syslog.py to write quopri encoded message when it fail to write
8-bit characters.
- Fix MTA/Postfix.py to check aliases group permission in check_perms
and fix mailman-install document on this matter (1378270).
- Fix private.py to go to the original URL after authorization
(1080943).
- Fix bounce log score messages to be more consistent.
- Fix bin/remove_members to accept no arguments when both --fromall and
--file= options are specified.
- Change cgi-bin and mail wrapper "group not found" error message to be
more descriptive of the actual problem.
- Apply the list's ban_list to address changes and admin mass subscribe
and invite and to confirmations/approvals of address changes,
subscriptions and invitations.
- Decode quoted-printable and base64 encoded parts before passing to
HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND (1367783).
- Remove Approve: header from post - treat as Approved: (1355707).
- Stop removing line following Approve(d): line in body of post
(1318883).
- Remove Approve(d): <password> from all text/* parts in addition the
initial text/plain part. It still must be the first non-blank line in
the first text/plain part or it won't be found or removed at all
(1181161).
- Log post in post log with true sender, not listname-bounces
(1287921).
- Correctly initialize and remember the list's
default_member_moderation
attribute in the web list creation page (1263213).
- Add PEP263 charset in config_list output (1343100).
- header_filter_rules get lost if accessed directly and needed
authenti-
cation by login page (1230865).
- Obscure email when the poster doesn't set full name in 'From:'
header.
- Take preambles and epilogues into account when calculating
message sizes
for holding purposes (Mark Sapiro).
- Logging/Logger.py unicode transform option (1235567).
- bin/update crashes with bogus files (949117).
- Bugs and patches: 1212066/1301983 (Date header in create/remove
notice)
Hi all,
I've just released Mailman 2.1.7b1 for beta test and i18n translations.
I'm tempted to jump into RC because the 2.1-maint branch is so stable
and 2.1.7 is mainly for bug fixes, but we need more translations before
the final release. Please download it from SF or:
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.7b1.tgz
Cheers,
Tokio
-------------------------------------------------------
Here is a history of user visible changes to Mailman.
2.1.7b1 (20-Dec-2005)
Security
- The fix for CAN-2005-0202 has been enhanced to issue an appropriate
message instead of just quietly dropping ./ and ../ from URLs.
- A note on CVE-2005-3573: Although the RFC2231 bug example in the
CVE has been solved in mailman-2.1.6, there may be more cases
where ToDigest.send_digests() can block regular delivery.
We put the send_digests() calling part in try - except clause and
leave a message in the error log if something happened in
send_digests(). Daily call of cron/senddigests will notify more
detail to the site administrator.
- List administrators can no longer change the user's
option/subscription
globally. Site admin can change these only if
mm_cfg.ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES is set to Yes.
- Script tag is disallowd in edithtml script.
- Since probe message for the disabled users may reach unexpected
persons, the password was excluded from sendProbe() and probe.txt.
Note that the default value of VERP_PROBE has been set to `No'
from 2.1.6., thus this change doesn't change the default behavior.
New Features
- Always remove DomainKey (and similar) headers (1287546) from messages
sent to the list.
- List owners can customize content filter behavior as not to collapse
multipart/alternative to its first content. This allows HTML part
to pass through after other content filtering is done.
Internationalization
- New language: Interlingua.
Bug fixes and other patches
- Fix Scrubber.py mungs quoted-printable bug with introducing
'X-Mailman-Scrubbed' header for marking that the payload is
scrubber-munged. The flag is referenced in ToDigest.py, ToArchive.py,
Decorate.py and Archiver. Similar problem in ToDigest.py where the
plain digest is generated is also fixed.
- Fix Syslog.py to write quopri encoded message when it fail to write
8-bit characters.
- Fix MTA/Postfix.py to check aliases group permission in check_perms
and fix mailman-install document on this matter (1378270).
- Fix private.py to go to the original URL after authorization
(1080943).
- Fix bounce log score messages to be more consistent.
- Fix bin/remove_members to accept no arguments when both --fromall and
--file= options are specified.
- Change cgi-bin and mail wrapper "group not found" error message to be
more descriptive of the actual problem.
- Apply the list's ban_list to address changes and admin mass subscribe
and invite and to confirmations/approvals of address changes,
subscriptions and invitations.
- Decode quoted-printable and base64 encoded parts before passing to
HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND (1367783).
- Remove Approve: header from post - treat as Approved: (1355707).
- Stop removing line following Approve(d): line in body of post
(1318883).
- Log post in post log with true sender, not listname-bounces (1287921).
- Correctly initialize and remember the list's default_member_moderation
attribute in the web list creation page (1263213).
- Add PEP263 charset in config_list output (1343100).
- header_filter_rules get lost if accessed directly and needed authenti-
cation by login page (1230865).
- Obscure email when the poster doesn't set full name in 'From:' header.
- Take preambles and epilogues into account when calculating message
sizes
for holding purposes (Mark Sapiro).
- Logging/Logger.py unicode transform option (1235567).
- bin/update crashes with bogus files (949117).
- Bugs and patches: 1212066/1301983 (Date header in create/remove
notice)
Hi Developers and i18ners,
Mailman 2.1.7a1 was released for alpha test and i18n translations. Here
is excerpts from NEWS file. I thank Mark Sapiro for significant
contributions in bug-fixes and document/message brushups.
Please fetch it from SF download sites or from
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.7a1.tgz
Cheers,
Tokio
---------------------------------------------------
Here is a history of user visible changes to Mailman.
2.1.7a1 (13-Dec-2005)
Security
- The fix for CAN-2005-0202 has been enhanced to issue an appropriate
message instead of just quietly dropping ./ and ../ from URLs.
- A note on CVE-2005-3573: Although the RFC2231 bug example in the
CVE has been solved in mailman-2.1.6, there may be more cases
where ToDigest.send_digests() can block regular delivery.
We put the send_digests() calling part in try - except clause and
leave a message in the error log if something happened in
send_digests(). Daily call of cron/senddigests will notify more
detail to the site administrator.
- List administrators can no longer change the user's
option/subscription
globally. Site admin can change these only if
mm_cfg.ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES is set to Yes.
- Script tag is disallowd in edithtml script.
- Since probe message for the disabled users may reach unexpected
persons, the password was excluded from sendProbe() and probe.txt.
Note that the default value of VERP_PROBE has been set to `No'
from 2.1.6., thus this change doesn't change the default behavior.
New Features
- Always remove DomainKey (and similar) headers (1287546) from messages
sent to the list.
- List owners can customize content filter behavior as not to collapse
multipart/alternative to its first content. This allows HTML part
to pass through after other content filtering is done.
Internationalization
- New language: Interlingua.
Bug fixes and other patches
- Fix MTA/Postfix.py to check aliases group permission in check_perms
and fix mailman-install document on this matter (1378270).
- Fix private.py to go to the original URL after authorization
(1080943).
- Fix bounce log score messages to be more consistent.
- Fix bin/remove_members to accept no arguments when both --fromall and
--file= options are specified.
- Change cgi-bin and mail wrapper "group not found" error message to be
more descriptive of the actual problem.
- Apply the list's ban_list to address changes and admin mass subscribe
and invite and to confirmations/approvals of address changes,
subscriptions and invitations.
- Decode quoted-printable and base64 encoded parts before passing to
HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND (1367783).
- Remove Approve: header from post - treat as Approved: (1355707).
- Stop removing line following Approve(d): line in body of post
(1318883).
- Log post in post log with true sender, not listname-bounces (1287921).
- Correctly initialize and remember the list's default_member_moderation
attribute in the web list creation page (1263213).
- Add PEP263 charset in config_list output (1343100).
- header_filter_rules get lost if accessed directly and needed authenti-
cation by login page (1230865).
- Obscure email when the poster doesn't set full name in 'From:' header.
- Take preambles and epilogues into account when calculating message
sizes
for holding purposes (Mark Sapiro).
- Logging/Logger.py unicode transform option (1235567).
- bin/update crashes with bogus files (949117).
- Bugs and patches: 1212066/1301983 (Date header in create/remove
notice)
--
Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp
http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/
So, we've gone ahead and registered the Mailman project at Ubuntu's
Launchpad Rosetta. We should start migrating all i18n development to
that site. Currently I'm still working with the Launchpad folks to get
the Mailman project set up correctly, but in the meantime, anybody who
still wants to work on Mailman i18n (and I hope that's you! :), should
register with Launchpad and the GNU Translators group. You'll need to
sign and submit a disclaimer form in order to join that group, but once
you do, you'll be able to translate Mailman or any other GNU project
registered at Launchpad.
I think these are good links to start with:
https://launchpad.net/rosetta/groups/gnu-translators/https://launchpad.net/rosetta
The Mailman pot and po files aren't yet uploaded, but I'll announce here
when they are.
Cheers,
-Barry
