Mailman 3 February 2004 - Mailman-i18n

slovak translation of version 2.12
by Booster13 27 Feb '04

27 Feb '04

Hi, slovak translation enclosed. I'am not a member of the list. -- Bedt regards Booster13 Booster13(a)centrum.cz ICQ: 99489940

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(sin asunto)
by Vanessa Salvador Sánchez 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

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Icelandic translation
by Sveinki 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

Hi there: I've been working on translation/adaptation of mailman for Icelandic. Not too straightforward, the messages being buried in various files. But I've done most of the customisation necessary to publish a newsletter in icelandic. I had to modify some of the .py/.txt files outside of templates and lists folders (backing-up of course) meaning that ALL my lists will become more/less in icelandic. I saw that making a folder (en/is) under either templates or mylist folder would result in a language specific version, but have failed to see how to connect a list to a specific language; tried many setups. Most likely I'll have to run other lists in other languages, sooner or later. I'm very new to mailman and haven't had much time to search the web. There must be some documentation somewhere on internationalisation ? Once working decently I'll wrap my files according to mailman standards and upload for others. There really is some work to do on organising content and debugging HTML. Got some ideas for xml or html-strict. Saw the message: >>[Mailman-i18n] Should we join the Translation Project? Barry Warsaw barry at python.org Fri Oct 10 15:05:23 EDT 2003 << and think the proposals make a lot of sense. Those remarks stem from the fact that icelandic has extensive use of entities/special characters, many users have special codepages; mixing plaintext messages and html code is not really ideal. Would greatly appreciate an answer: thanks, Sveinn H. Sverrisson ¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ sveinki(a)nett.is - 462 5972 Fell - Stórholt 2a, 603 Glerárþorpi ¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤

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[bug] about the zh_TW messages and templates
by Keanu 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

hi, all: I found there are some problems while I choose the language: "Chinese (Taiwan)" via the web. After I choose the the langauge, the mailman are still display English used by charset 'big5'. So I try to find out the problem. Under the messages folder, the 'big5' folder should named 'zh_TW', but not 'big5'. According to the Mailman/Defaults.py, the country code for "Chinese (Taiwan)" is 'zh_TW', so, the messages/big5 and the template/big5, both folders should be rename to 'zh_TW': messages/big5 => messages/zh_TW templates/big5 => templates/zh_TW Also, the Makefile should be fix this bug, too. In messages/Makefile: original: LANGUAGES= ca cs da de es et eu fi fr hr hu it ja ko lt nl no pl \ pt pt_BR ro ru sl sr sv uk fixed: LANGUAGES= zh_TW ca cs da de es et eu fi fr hr hu it ja ko lt nl no pl \ pt pt_BR ro ru sl sr sv uk also in templates/Makefile: original: LANGUAGES= big5 ca cs de en es et eu fi fr gb hr hu it ja ko lt nl \ no pl pt pt_BR ro ru sl sr sv uk fixed: LANGUAGES= zh_TW ca cs de en es et eu fi fr gb hr hu it ja ko lt nl \ no pl pt pt_BR ro ru sl sr sv uk that's all!! :) ps. sorry, my English is very poor, English is not my native language... :) -- living today for tomorrow keanu's mail: keanu(a)keanu.no-ip.com or keanu(a)slackware.org.tw

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greek/hellenic support?
by Pabs 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Hi mailman, imc listwork folk, I'm from the group that manages the indymedia list server lists.indymedia.org One of our users requested information on whether or not mm supports the greek/hellenic language (charsets Windows 1253, Iso 8859-7, UTF8). I realise that there is no greek translation yet (perhaps we could get an army of indymedia greeks to work on it, but that is another email), but can anyone answer the message below, or tell us what is required to support these charsets? >From chatting with some people on #mailman I seem to understand that the main problem will be the archiver. Can anyone recommend one that handles the required charsets properly (would also need to support at least chinese and korean)? We have been looking at changing to use the lurker archiver, will it handle this multitude of charsets, and any gotchas we shouldbe wary of? Please keep the listwork cc in your replies, thanks. Bye, Pabs PS: we have some non-i18n patches for you, that I've yet to split up properly (some of them conflict), but they're here: http://perth.indymedia.org/~pabs/mailman-2.1.4-indymedia.patch ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 5 Feb 2004 08:01:32 -0000 From: Petros Evdokas <petros(a)cyprus-org.net> To: micah(a)indymedia.org Cc: listwork(a)lists.indymedia.org, imc-cyprus(a)lists.indymedia.org Subject: [Listwork] RE: [IMC-Tech-Announce] IMC list outage >-----Original Message----- >From: Micah Anderson <micah(a)indymedia.org> >Sent: 02/04/04 - 21:19 >To: Micah Anderson <micah(a)indymedia.org> >Subject: RE: [IMC-Tech-Announce] IMC list outage > >The listwork team is planning an outage of the IMC lists system on >Feb 9th/10th 00:00 GMT. We will be taking things down to upgrade to a >newer more robust mailman. Please be aware that any mail that you send >to lists.indymedia.org will be spooled and delivered once things are >up, but expect to not receive email for a few hours while we perform >the upgrade and do some integrity testing. > >If you have any questions or concerns, we will be working on >irc.indymedia.org in channel #listwork. > >Thanks for understanding! >listworkers --------------------- Hello Micah, Thanks for the announcement. We are still waiting for some sort of reply regarding the use of the hellenic/ greek language on the email lists, for the needs of some of the cyprus imc-group. It' s been more that a year, actually it's been since just before the previous big upgrade that we've had any help from the listworks group about this. We asked for help several times and then just kind of gave up seeing there was no response. But perhaps there's new people and techologies now, is this what your letter means? If so, can you please include a few extra minutes to have a look at the problem? Now that there will be an upgrade, perhaps it's a good opportunity to solve these problems? It refers to this: I order for us to use the hellenic/ greek language on the lists, the email- server must be given some instruction to allow for the language character sets to be activated. In general, for internet use these three sets cover just about anything published in the hellenic/ greek language: Character set: Greek Windows 1253 Character set: Greek Iso 8859-7 UTF8 A significant detail is that apparently the Subject heading of the emails is transmitted (encoded?) in some special way and so the character sets need to be activated especially for that function as well. Otherwise, the entire letter is sent correctly while the Subject comes out in an alien language. A third detail is that the online display of the email list archives suffers of the same problem, the server needs to have the three character sets activated as well. Here, we face the particularity that the Subject of the Previous or Next letter is displayed in an alien language unless there is some special activation of the character sets specifically for the Subjext. Worse, is the problem that the title bar (the blue bar at the very top of the browser), which contains the title of the page and contains the Subject of the letter, is also coded separately, and must have the language character sets specially activated for it. An example of this problem is on this page (please look at the top blue title bar): http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/cyprus-hellenic-open-publishing/2002-O… It can be compared with this page, in which the character sets display correctly: http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/cyprus-hellenic-open-publishing/2003-S… Anything we can help you with so that you can help us better? We would be thrilled if someone who works at listwork actually takes some interest again in our needs. Thank you very much, Petros volunteer, http://Cyprus.IndyMedia.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ listwork mailing list listwork(a)lists.indymedia.org http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/listwork

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slovene mailman
by Iztok Stotl 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Hello, I am using fedora,, postfix, mailman combunation ... I have set up default server language to be 'sl' in Defaults.py ... But all the messages an pages stay english ... When I add a list with slovenian language as default the templates get translated, but messages don't ... the pages are only half translated ... Why ? Iztok

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Turkish support
by Ergin Soysal 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Does anybody know the current status of Turkish translation of Mailman? Ergin Soysal

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Errors in Polish translation.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Who did do the translation to Polish? As there are some style errors. Like sentence shouldn't start with "Aby" because "aby" is conjunctive. It should be rather used "W celu" or "Celem" instead of "Aby" at the beginnig of sentence. I found also one mistyping: "Bieżące archiwum jest dostępna tylko dla członków listy." Should be "dostępne", not "dostępna". Besides what for the word "Bieżące" is used. IMHO it should be skipped. Just "Archiwum jest dostępne tylko dla członków listy" is fine enough. Regards Andrzej.

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Corrupted foreign fonts.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Hi! In monthly reminders send by mailman in Polish, Polish fonts are corrupted. Code page in the header of the message is correct i.e. iso- 8859-2, but instead of Polish fonts there are only some numbers displayed as can be seen there: http://znik.wbc.lublin.pl/~ak/rozne/bad_PL_fonts.gif What should be done to fix it? Regards Andrzej.

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Regarding tamil language support in http://www.list.org/i18n.html
by Karthik Kumar 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Hi, I was looking for information on GNU mailman. And came across this site - http://www.list.org/i18n.html . I would like to have support for my native language - Tamil (language code - ta) here . Can you please let me know what ought to be done in this regard. Thanks in advance for the same. Cheers Karthik. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Thai language support
by Ahnont Wongseelashote 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Dear Sir/Madam, Is there a Thai translation for Mailman in the work. If not, I am intersted to help. Please let me know how to go about this. Thanks, Dr. Ahnont Wongseelashote

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